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Has anyone here on this thread grown up in a childrens home???
NT Opposition leader supports 'sorry'
Posted 2 hours 42 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours 21 minutes ago
The Northern Territory Opposition leader says he supports a formal apology to the Stolen Generations.
The Federal Opposition hasn't decided whether or not it supports the Government formally saying "sorry" in federal parliament next week.
The Opposition leader Terry Mills says the suffering caused by past government policy means those involved deserve an apology.
"I've come to this position over a number of years. I've spent time with the members of the Stolen Generations.
"We have seen presented to us the neglect and the suffering of Aboriginal people, which is the result of systemic policy failure. And it's a sentiment that I'm able to express when I look at the plight of Aboriginal people.
"I have no problem saying 'sorry'.
"I'm a man who loves family ... and it would take a hard hearted person ... to deny the pain that many of those members of the Stolen Generations feel."
The 'sorry' push has also been joined by former CLP Chief Minister Ian Tuxworth, who says everyone should support the apology.
"Whether you are in the CLP, ALP or something else, or whether you are in the Cattlemen's Association, I just think that it's time the community and society said 'Look, this is obviously been much deeper than any of us considered at the time'."
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Tiger, careful, Chasers are looking for a new person to interview now that Heffernan has called his decision to apologise as a "no-brainer".
Meanwhile the NT's Opposition Leader Terry Mills supports sorry - (and he's pretty close to the action you'd think)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/04/2153661.htm?section=justin
Then again, knowledge of recent history seems to be becoming a problem for some...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/04/2153628.htm?section=justin
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/29/2149206.htm
PS Terry Mills has only been CLP Lib leader for a week
I have seen you and Bunyip fail the most basic tests of logic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Banton
Abbott, who had been in Victoria at the time, dismissed the petition as a "stunt" and implied that, despite his illness, Banton's motives were not "pure of heart". Abbott later apologised, but did not back away from his criticism.[1]
I'm not saying anything. It's not for me to deduce or interpret Noel Pearson's preferences. I have offered his essay for readers to draw their own conclusions.Julia
well so far I've got as far as this quote - page 16 I think..
Are you saying he prefers Howard's to Keating's attitude?
Tiger and Julia
I'm getting confused and I think you'll agree that things have moved on ... reached "critical mass" around here - as the actress said to the slightly overweight bishop. When Bill Heffernan is saying sorry, we can assume they'll all be saying sorry soon enough.
You remind me of Paul Keating, whose ego was so severely bruised by his election loss that he's been throwing stones at John Howard ever since.
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1. but as someone who was born in the real outback of Australia when men where men I cant resist adding my own 2 cents if I could find one.
2. Personally I wonder if anyone *really* thinks that yet another in a long list of "handouts" to the aboriginals whether verbally or financially is going to solve anything. Get real people. .
3. Anyone born in Australia is an Australian and should be treated equally in all aspects based on their merits. Anyone who wasn't born here (regardless of how long their stay) is a guest and should be treated with respect and extended all courtesies, but if they misbehave they should be kindly asked to leave
1. What is with you that you manage to completely ignore what I am actually saying in favour of some compulsion to merge my views with those of others?
2. If you can't manage to comprehend my comments,
3. please do me the favour of ignoring them. Just don't attribute to me remarks which I have never made.
Rudd pushes Opposition to support apology
Posted 3 hours 47 minutes ago
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is increasing the pressure on the Federal Opposition to support the apology to the Stolen Generations.
Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson has repeatedly said that he wants to see what the apology will contain before giving it his approval.
Mr Rudd says he will be able to give Dr Nelson a clear indication of the content when the two meet later this week, but he has told ABC TV's 7.30 Report the principle of the apology is clear cut.
"We said before the election we were apologising," he said.
"I'm not sure what Brendan's position is as of today, but you can play around with text here and there and we've got to get that right in terms of Indigenous people, to ensure the apology is effective," he said.
"But can I say, let's not just play word games with the Opposition, you either support it or you don't."
You could try to be on topic.An amusing statement if ever I saw one!
You show all the symptoms of a bruised ego.
You remind me of Paul Keating, whose ego was so severely bruised by his election loss that he's been throwing stones at John Howard ever since.
I noticed that my logic was sufficient to put forward various arguments that you were unable to refute.
And my logic was more than sufficient to back you into a corner that you couldn't fight your way out of!
You could try to be on topic.
I have offered my thoughts on it.
On the topic of logic, try not to make an assumption, draw an argument from it, and then present a conclusion.
Keating was cool...........but I'd be the type to throw rocks at Howard so what would I know:.
I've paid plenty of stamp duties/rates/capital gains etc on property to the Gov over the years,just because the Gov prints little bits of paper with "Land Title"........
Please explain what recompense and obligations have they observed to the Aboriginals who they ripped off since settlement.
Logic is not "opinion".Logic is in the eye of the beholder, my friend. What you think is logic or what I think is logic, someone else may have an entirely different opinion.
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