Who is selling/buying - what is driving the market?

[DionM]

No, I don't mean a list of your trades.

I'm trying to figure out how the market is working, but I don't understand. Why are stocks having to be sold? Surely many are incurring losses now on sales, so why are they selling?

What are institutions doing in a market like this? What impact does daytrading have?

 

[Nathan_b]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

margin loans also people cutting losses to move back in later

 

[Trembling Hand]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

Surely many are incurring losses now on sales

You have answered your own question.

 

[numbercruncher]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I Bet there is also many many budding soon to be retirees fully invested via Superanuation pooping their perverbial panties hitting the panic button, Im sure i would be faced with the same situation

 

[Nyden]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I sold out of my final positions today; not out of panic, but out of logic. The market is going to continue to fall, simple as that. Maybe it will have a few rallies here & there, but I think it's almost safe to call a bear market.

RBA will raise interest rates, which is good for holders of cash ; so I say bring it on!

 

[cordelia]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

well someone's buying because there's lots of selling

 

[ROE]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I been buying for the last 7 days....havent sold any stock
will buy again tomorrow if it goes red

My Unlce Warren told me when you cant find anything worth wise to buy keep it cash..so last year I couldn't find anything cheap enough i load up the cash and anything that go nuts I sold and keep it in cash

Uncle Graham said time like these the market suddenly giving away money

 

[Nyden]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I been buying for the last 7 days....havent sold any stock
will buy again tomorrow if it goes red

What if it stays relatively red though? Bear market? Recession? Chinese slow down?

 

[Porper]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

well someone's buying because there's lots of selling

There are some good risk reward trades still out there i.m.o.

You could still have a 5% stop on ZFX this afternoon, buy when it is rising and move the stop up and that is more like a 3% stop.If the market tanks, no harm done, if we get anything other than a US meltdown tonight then it could be a good trade.

I thought it was a reasonable proposition anyway.

 

[agro]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

You just have to stick through it.

No intelligent investor looks at the day to day volitility of the markets and frets over it. The way in which an average person who has done their research and studied the markets can make money guaranteed is in long-term value/quality investments.

Trying to make money in short-term speculation is 100% no different than gambling, it's impossible to consitently guess right.

But, through all the history of stock markets, a diversified portfolio invested in equities on a long term time scale will make solid gains and just blow guaranteed investments out of the water. The ups and downs people worry about now are almost invisible when you stand back and look at the charts over years which is what you ought to be doing if you're a smart investor.

Right now is all based in hysteria over fears of recession, but it's not reflected in value and the markets will correct themselves over the coming weeks. Now, whoever picks bottom is able to make themselves some good gains, even presently there are tons of solid long-term values out there - but everyone is waiting for the issues to work themselves out. The economy is slowed up right now, but it's not so horrible that people should be worried to the degree that the numbers have shown lately. It certainly isn't logic that drives the markets in times like these.

 

[skating101]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

selling my speculative stake to buy back into it tomorrow seeing as everyone is expecting another big sell off tomorrow

 

[Pommiegranite]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I Bet there is also many many budding soon to be retirees fully invested via Superanuation pooping their perverbial panties hitting the panic button, Im sure i would be faced with the same situation

Espicially those (like my previous boss who is retiring this June) who scraped together $1 million prior to 30June07 to take advantage of the 07 Super concession.

 

[nioka]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

Why are stocks having to be sold? Surely many are incurring losses now on sales, so why are they selling?

A lemming rush goaded on by margin calls and financial advisers trying to prove they were right in calling a bear market and drawing attention away from the fact that they recommended investments in the likes of Rams and Centro.

 

[ASK]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

What if it stays relatively red though? Bear market? Recession? Chinese slow down?

ease up there, Nyden ... you really know how to make a few of the members on here go running for a clean set of pants. The markets down, a long way down - people are selling ... potential bargains will always exist. A smart trader will always make money, always ... shame im not one of them!

 

[ROE]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

What if it stays relatively red though? Bear market? Recession? Chinese slow down?

Dont care I work out how much I want to pay for something when it hit below that mark time to buy

no emotion involve no if or but so doesnt care if the market dropped a 1000 points

My figure of red or down generally apply to stock price go down to the level I want to buy...
so if it go up i'm unlikely to get the price I want. It doesn't bear any relation to anything

 

[trillionaire#1]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

I been buying for the last 7 days....havent sold any stock
will buy again tomorrow if it goes red

My Unlce Warren told me when you cant find anything worth wise to buy keep it cash..so last year I couldn't find anything cheap enough i load up the cash and anything that go nuts I sold and keep it in cash

Uncle Graham said time like these the market suddenly giving away money

wish i had a wise pair of uncles like you!

 

[Timmy]

What is driving the market?

Fear would appear to have the upper hand at the moment.

 

[ROE]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

wish i had a wise pair of uncles like you!

These uncles are World Wide uncle anyone can be their uncle
Warren Buffett and Benjamin Graham (dead uncle of course)
Good old fashion wisdom never dies it just get lost during bull market

 

[Buffettology]

Re: Who is selling, who is buying - what is driving the market?

These uncles are World Wide uncle anyone can be their uncle
Warren Buffett and Benjamin Graham (dead uncle of course)
Good old fashion wisdom never dies it just get lost during bull market

ha ha, yes, you invest the same as me ROE!

Thing is, I got greedy and started buying at OK prices, but not great prices!

I still have a bit of cash to dump in, which I might if we get another crazy sell off tomorrow (cant see us going much lower than 5000).

Plus I am planning to sell flog off an asset I have here, anything to get more cash! My eyes are ringing with bargains at the moment, but I only have about 15k cash left! 25k once I flog off this asset, but still small bickies! Too much already sunk in there of which has been STUNG!

 

[Buffettology]

What is driving the market?

Fear would appear to have the upper hand at the moment.

Rediculous fear!

Its the US in "recession", not us right? ha ha.

Plus, Asian is booming and our economy still looks healthy.

This fear is just rediculous and unjustified as far as I can see!