Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[sptrawler]

Why are we still going on about Trump?
The U.S market is going gangbusters, the out of control North Korean guy, hasn't got any idea as to how Trump is going to play the game, neither does anyone else.
If Hillary or Obama was in there, they would be rolling around peeing on themselves, and the North Korean dude would be having a field day.
As it is, he doesn't know whether Trump is a screwy as him, so everything else is cruising along nicely.
It will all work out in the wash, eventually when the time is right, the pair of them will get together for a group hug in front of the camera's.
Then the markets will go BOOM.
If you want the full unabridged version with a signed copy, just contact me. lol

 

[Tink]

President Donald J. Trump's Proclamation on Jerusalem as the Capital of the State of Israel

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...ecognizing-jerusalem-capital-state-israel-and

 

[luutzu]

President Donald J. Trump's Proclamation on Jerusalem as the Capital of the State of Israel

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...ecognizing-jerusalem-capital-state-israel-and

What could possibly go wrong.

The Palestinians get upset, throw a few rocks and set a few tyres on fire. The Israelis will just shoot them.

Israel is a few steps closer to following God's promise, then eventually the Palestinians will either all die in those open air prisons, or Jordan takes more of them... can't be Jordan because some in Israel also defined that as God's promised land too.

But it sure is a few steps closer to Rapture where everybody dies.

 

[luutzu]

Why are we still going on about Trump?
The U.S market is going gangbusters, the out of control North Korean guy, hasn't got any idea as to how Trump is going to play the game, neither does anyone else.
If Hillary or Obama was in there, they would be rolling around peeing on themselves, and the North Korean dude would be having a field day.
As it is, he doesn't know whether Trump is a screwy as him, so everything else is cruising along nicely.
It will all work out in the wash, eventually when the time is right, the pair of them will get together for a group hug in front of the camera's.
Then the markets will go BOOM.
If you want the full unabridged version with a signed copy, just contact me. lol

Hillary and Obama were peace doves?

Obama bring two wars in the Middle East to seven. Add another one in the Ukraine and a planning a couple in Africa before he left office.

Hillary threatened to wiped out Iran, like all tough leaders do... Just to prove she weren't kidding, she pushed for Libya's Qaddafi to be droned and the country liberated. We came, we saw, he died... cackle cackle cackle. It's so funny because he did die, get it?

 

[luutzu]

Trump aren't the only ones taking money from the poor, the weak, the old, the infants... and give it all to himself and his buddies.

A Senator was outraged that there are people who would shower billions and billions on people who are so lazy they don't raised a finger to help themselves... the children! From poor families! Needing food and health insurance! Lazy parasites! Should have been born rich and inherit your parents billions at zero tax.

 

[Tisme]

What could possibly go wrong.

The Palestinians get upset, throw a few rocks and set a few tyres on fire. The Israelis will just shoot them.

Israel is a few steps closer to following God's promise, then eventually the Palestinians will either all die in those open air prisons, or Jordan takes more of them... can't be Jordan because some in Israel also defined that as God's promised land too.

But it sure is a few steps closer to Rapture where everybody dies.

My bet is that "Palestinians" aren't the original biblical mob, because as Phillistines they looked like the Hebrew Tribes, so much so that Sampson preferred it as his home and blended in. The place was part of the Ottoman Empire for several centuries before the Sykes-Picot Agreement, so there's probably a real chance the gene pool is from all over, including the Saudi Bedouins who Britain gave asylum to into Palestine and what is now Jordan around the 1920's.

 

[luutzu]

My bet is that "Palestinians" aren't the original biblical mob, because as Phillistines they looked like the Hebrew Tribes, so much so that Sampson preferred it as his home and blended in. The place was part of the Ottoman Empire for several centuries before the Sykes-Picot Agreement, so there's probably a real chance the gene pool is from all over, including the Saudi Bedouins who Britain gave asylum to into Palestine and what is now Jordan around the 1920's.

Aren't most of the better Israelis in Israel came from either the former Soviet bloc, outlaws and scam artists from the UK, US, Australia and 'merka? Isn't their current King David, Bibi, some low level advisor to Reagan?

But regardless of how long and how many generations of the current Palestinians were there before they got evicted or slaughtered, we all know that on these kind of colonial-settler projects, it's not history and nativism, it's about superior culture, bestest civilisation and freedom spreading its wings, liberating people from their stuff then pretend to not know why they're so upset and angry about it.

Don't know, if I'm Jewish I'd be pretty upset at what a bunch of corrupt, racist, fascist aholes are doing using my name and my people's suffering.

 

[Tisme]

 

[SirRumpole]

Republican Roy Moore suffers shock defeat in Alabama.

First Democrat Senator from Alabama in 25 years.

GOP senate majority now 51-49.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...y-moore-beaten-in-crucial-senate-race/9255478

 

[luutzu]

Republican Roy Moore suffers shock defeat in Alabama.

First Democrat Senator from Alabama in 25 years.

GOP senate majority now 51-49.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...y-moore-beaten-in-crucial-senate-race/9255478

What's more shocking is that he even had a chance of winning.

I mean, among his half dozen or more accusers two of them claimed he sexually assaulted them when they were 14, 17 when he was in his 30s.

Are all of them lying? Maybe, maybe not. Should be investigated at least, not being supported by the president.

I heard his wife coming out to support him. Saying, among other things, that he can't be racist because one of their lawyers is a Jew. ha ha... her words, almost exactly.

 

[basilio]

The USA Today Editorial Board have written the strongest condemnation to date of Donald Truimps fitness to be President. It's a bit (actually a LOT..) more than calling him a sexist pig. It details many of the innumerable appalling things Trump has done.

Will Trump's lows ever hit rock bottom?
The Editorial Board, USA TODAY Published 7:30 p.m. ET Dec. 12, 2017 | Updated 9:12 a.m. ET Dec. 13, 2017


White House Spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders flatly denied that President Donald Trump's tweet about NY Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was in any way sexist, insisting only people with their minds "in the gutter" would have read it that way. (Dec. 12) AP

A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes:
Our view
1009 COMMENTEMAILMORE

With his latest tweet, clearly implying that a United States senator would trade sexual favors for campaign cash, President Trump has shown he is not fit for office. Rock bottom is no impediment for a president who can always find room for a new low.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the president's smear as a misunderstanding because he used similar language about men. Of course, words used about men and women are different. When candidate Trump said a journalist was bleeding from her "wherever," he didn't mean her nose.

And as is the case with all of Trump's digital provocations, the president's words were deliberate. He pours the gasoline of sexist language and lights the match gleefully knowing how it will burst into flame in a country reeling from the #MeToo moment.

RNC: Democrats’ response is laughable

A president who would all but call Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand a whore is not fit to clean the toilets in the Barack Obama Presidential Library or to shine the shoes of George W. Bush.

This isn’t about the policy differences we have with all presidents or our disappointment in some of their decisions. Obama and Bush both failed in many ways. They broke promises and told untruths, but the basic decency of each man was never in doubt.

Donald Trump, the man, on the other hand, is uniquely awful. His sickening behavior is corrosive to the enterprise of a shared governance based on common values and the consent of the governed.

It should surprise no one how low he went with Gillibrand. When accused during the campaign of sexually harassing or molesting women in the past, Trump’s response was to belittle the looks of his accusers. Last October, Trump suggested that he never would have groped Jessica Leeds on an airplane decades ago: “Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you.” Trump mocked another accuser, former People reporter Natasha Stoynoff, “Check out her Facebook, you’ll understand.” Other celebrities and politicians have denied accusations, but none has stooped as low as suggesting that their accusers weren’t attractive enough to be honored with their gropes.

If recent history is any guide, the unique awfulness of the Trump era in U.S. politics is only going to get worse. Trump’s utter lack of morality, ethics and simple humanity has been underscored during his 11 months in office. Let us count the ways:

• He is enthusiastically supporting Alabama's Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused of pursuing — and in one case molesting and in another assaulting — teenagers as young as 14 when Moore was a county prosecutor in his 30s. On Tuesday, Trump summed up his willingness to support a man accused of criminal conduct: “Roy Moore will always vote with us.”
• Trump apparently is going for some sort of record for lying while in office. As of mid-November, he had made 1,628 misleading or false statements in 298 days in office. That’s 5.5 false claims per day, according to a count kept by The Washington Post’s fact-checkers.
• Trump takes advantage of any occasion — even Monday’s failed terrorist attack in New York — to stir racial, religious or ethnic strife. Congress “must end chain migration,” he said Monday, because the terror suspect “entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security.” So because one man — 27-year-old Akayed Ullah, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. who came from Bangladesh on a family immigrant visa in 2011 — is accused of attacking America, all immigrants brought to this country by family are suspect? Trump might have some credibility if his criticism of immigrants was solely about terrorists. It isn’t. It makes no difference to him if an immigrant is a terrorist or a federal judge. He once smeared an Indiana-born judge whose parents emigrated from Mexico. It’s all the same to this president.
• A man who clearly wants to put his stamp on the government, Trump hasn’t even done his job when it comes to filling key government positions that require Senate confirmation. As of last week, Trump had failed to nominate anyone for 60% of 1,200 key positions he can fill to keep the government running smoothly.
• Trump has shown contempt for ethical strictures that have bound every president in recent memory. He has refused to release his tax returns, with the absurd excuse that it’s because he is under audit. He has refused to put his multibillion dollar business interests in a blind trust and peddles the fiction that putting them in the hands of his sons does the same thing.

Not to mention calling white supremacists "very fine people," pardoning a lawless sheriff, firing a respected FBI director, and pushing the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.

It is a shock that only six Democratic senators are calling for our unstable president to resign.

The nation doesn’t seek nor expect perfect presidents, and some have certainly been deeply flawed. But a president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job and for decency toward others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...hit-rock-bottom-editorials-debates/945947001/

 

[qldfrog]

democracy is so annoying isn't it!!!

 

[luutzu]

The USA Today Editorial Board have written the strongest condemnation to date of Donald Truimps fitness to be President. It's a bit (actually a LOT..) more than calling him a sexist pig. It details many of the innumerable appalling things Trump has done.

Will Trump's lows ever hit rock bottom?
The Editorial Board, USA TODAY Published 7:30 p.m. ET Dec. 12, 2017 | Updated 9:12 a.m. ET Dec. 13, 2017


White House Spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders flatly denied that President Donald Trump's tweet about NY Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was in any way sexist, insisting only people with their minds "in the gutter" would have read it that way. (Dec. 12) AP

A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes:
Our view
1009 COMMENTEMAILMORE

With his latest tweet, clearly implying that a United States senator would trade sexual favors for campaign cash, President Trump has shown he is not fit for office. Rock bottom is no impediment for a president who can always find room for a new low.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the president's smear as a misunderstanding because he used similar language about men. Of course, words used about men and women are different. When candidate Trump said a journalist was bleeding from her "wherever," he didn't mean her nose.

And as is the case with all of Trump's digital provocations, the president's words were deliberate. He pours the gasoline of sexist language and lights the match gleefully knowing how it will burst into flame in a country reeling from the #MeToo moment.

RNC: Democrats’ response is laughable

A president who would all but call Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand a whore is not fit to clean the toilets in the Barack Obama Presidential Library or to shine the shoes of George W. Bush.

This isn’t about the policy differences we have with all presidents or our disappointment in some of their decisions. Obama and Bush both failed in many ways. They broke promises and told untruths, but the basic decency of each man was never in doubt.

Donald Trump, the man, on the other hand, is uniquely awful. His sickening behavior is corrosive to the enterprise of a shared governance based on common values and the consent of the governed.

It should surprise no one how low he went with Gillibrand. When accused during the campaign of sexually harassing or molesting women in the past, Trump’s response was to belittle the looks of his accusers. Last October, Trump suggested that he never would have groped Jessica Leeds on an airplane decades ago: “Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you.” Trump mocked another accuser, former People reporter Natasha Stoynoff, “Check out her Facebook, you’ll understand.” Other celebrities and politicians have denied accusations, but none has stooped as low as suggesting that their accusers weren’t attractive enough to be honored with their gropes.

If recent history is any guide, the unique awfulness of the Trump era in U.S. politics is only going to get worse. Trump’s utter lack of morality, ethics and simple humanity has been underscored during his 11 months in office. Let us count the ways:

• He is enthusiastically supporting Alabama's Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused of pursuing — and in one case molesting and in another assaulting — teenagers as young as 14 when Moore was a county prosecutor in his 30s. On Tuesday, Trump summed up his willingness to support a man accused of criminal conduct: “Roy Moore will always vote with us.”
• Trump apparently is going for some sort of record for lying while in office. As of mid-November, he had made 1,628 misleading or false statements in 298 days in office. That’s 5.5 false claims per day, according to a count kept by The Washington Post’s fact-checkers.
• Trump takes advantage of any occasion — even Monday’s failed terrorist attack in New York — to stir racial, religious or ethnic strife. Congress “must end chain migration,” he said Monday, because the terror suspect “entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security.” So because one man — 27-year-old Akayed Ullah, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. who came from Bangladesh on a family immigrant visa in 2011 — is accused of attacking America, all immigrants brought to this country by family are suspect? Trump might have some credibility if his criticism of immigrants was solely about terrorists. It isn’t. It makes no difference to him if an immigrant is a terrorist or a federal judge. He once smeared an Indiana-born judge whose parents emigrated from Mexico. It’s all the same to this president.
• A man who clearly wants to put his stamp on the government, Trump hasn’t even done his job when it comes to filling key government positions that require Senate confirmation. As of last week, Trump had failed to nominate anyone for 60% of 1,200 key positions he can fill to keep the government running smoothly.
• Trump has shown contempt for ethical strictures that have bound every president in recent memory. He has refused to release his tax returns, with the absurd excuse that it’s because he is under audit. He has refused to put his multibillion dollar business interests in a blind trust and peddles the fiction that putting them in the hands of his sons does the same thing.

Not to mention calling white supremacists "very fine people," pardoning a lawless sheriff, firing a respected FBI director, and pushing the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.

It is a shock that only six Democratic senators are calling for our unstable president to resign.

The nation doesn’t seek nor expect perfect presidents, and some have certainly been deeply flawed. But a president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job and for decency toward others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...hit-rock-bottom-editorials-debates/945947001/

It's a bit of a joke isn't it. Selecting only certain crimes and disasters to suit their agenda like that.

A terrorist tries to attack the US, so all Muslims and immigrants are dangerous and potential terrorists and the US must get rid of them, allow more invasion of privacy and annulling rights to be charged and legal representation etc. etc.

When a (White) terrorist uses automatic rifles, shoot into a crowd killing some 60 innocent Americans... Guns don't kill people, crazy people with crap load of machine guns kill people. Or some crazy idiot shoot up primary school children... meh, what can we do, guns equals freedom.

Don't have money to help their poor and sick, give some breaks for students trying to learn and improve their station in life - maybe even contribute to that greater American value and technological advantage... Nope. No money.

But when the Pentagon asks for $700Billion a year recently... the Congress figured what was asked was not enough. They literally added $70B on top of what the generals ask.

Bushfire in Winter raging on for almost two weeks. Hurricanes and floods... Costing taxpayers an estimated $400Billion so far this year. What climate change? Impossible! Why risk clean air and renewables, create more jobs and save people money?

It's insane.

 

[luutzu]

democracy is so annoying isn't it!!!

It's not really a democracy now is it?

Recent polls in the US show that some 80% of Americans do not favour the current Trump "tax reform"... it's going ahead.

Some 60% of Americans want universal healthcare. Not free healthcare, just a single-payer healthcare system where they are taxed (pay a premium) to the gov't who handles the billing and negotiation. It reduces the costs to everyone; covers everyone...

How can you afford cheaper healthcare? Cheaper for you and it also help your fellow citizens who need care but can't afford it. Why would you want that?

Or the current debate on Net Neutrality... Beside the big ISPs and telecom companies, who the heck want Net Neutrality removed? Yet there it is, being "debated" then ramp down citizen's throat.

There was a reason why an idiot like Trump won the election. It's not because people like him personally or think he is more qualified.

He's not only doing the same BS the citizens hated the establishment for, he ramp it up to high heaven.

There's only so many chances the peasants would give the established orders to make their lives better. To keep switch and bait between two parties that deliver basically the same bs decade after decade... The next new hope and change might not be done through the ballot box.

 

[moXJO]

It's not really a democracy now is it?

Recent polls in the US show that some 80% of Americans do not favour the current Trump "tax reform"... it's going ahead.

Some 60% of Americans want universal healthcare. Not free healthcare, just a single-payer healthcare system where they are taxed (pay a premium) to the gov't who handles the billing and negotiation. It reduces the costs to everyone; covers everyone...

How can you afford cheaper healthcare? Cheaper for you and it also help your fellow citizens who need care but can't afford it. Why would you want that?

Or the current debate on Net Neutrality... Beside the big ISPs and telecom companies, who the heck want Net Neutrality removed? Yet there it is, being "debated" then ramp down citizen's throat.

There was a reason why an idiot like Trump won the election. It's not because people like him personally or think he is more qualified.

He's not only doing the same BS the citizens hated the establishment for, he ramp it up to high heaven.

There's only so many chances the peasants would give the established orders to make their lives better. To keep switch and bait between two parties that deliver basically the same bs decade after decade... The next new hope and change might not be done through the ballot box.

Yeah, its a shame he didn't shake Washington up a bit more.
Revolution it is.....

 

[luutzu]

Yeah, its a shame he didn't shake Washington up a bit more.
Revolution it is.....

It sound insane but there is just so many similarities to the world of the 1930s.

Obama had an opportunity to save the day and turn the country around, but instead he simply save those that matters to his political career.

That gave the US, and the world, Donald farking J Trump. A TV clown so clueless to world history and the consequences of decisions at his level that it'd be funny if it weren't so dangerous and real.

A good summary of what happened in the 1930s. How FDR reigned in American capitalists, create social safety nets, put Americans back to work... all just in time to save the US from turning fascists like Germany, Italy... or towards Communism like Czarist Russia.

A great series of interviews discussing the systematic undoing of FDR's New Deal because, apparently, there was a "crisis of Democracy" during the 60s and 70s where the peasants are too well educated, live in modest comfort that they started to demand ends to imperial wars, environmental protection, civil rights for the coloured folks etc.

 

[Knobby22]

History repeats.

 

[luutzu]

History repeats.

Was wondering that, as historians pointed out, FDR's New Deal saved American capitalism/democracy from collapsing into fascism... does the undoing of it mean the country is back on course to what was deemed inevitable?

I mean, since the New Deal's undoing... the average American's standard of living, wages, social mobility.. they have either declined, stagnate or screwed.

Add to these they have wealth inequity as wide as during the time of the Pharaohs [Richard Wolf]; fighting wars on a few continents; troops, military bases, drones and intelligence all over the world. Something gotta give.

 

[Knobby22]

Was wondering that, as historians pointed out, FDR's New Deal saved American capitalism/democracy from collapsing into fascism... does the undoing of it mean the country is back on course to what was deemed inevitable?

I mean, since the New Deal's undoing... the average American's standard of living, wages, social mobility.. they have either declined, stagnate or screwed.

Add to these they have wealth inequity as wide as during the time of the Pharaohs [Richard Wolf]; fighting wars on a few continents; troops, military bases, drones and intelligence all over the world. Something gotta give.

It will give.
Trumps latest policy of steal from the poor and give to the rich is going to be a wake up call for some.
When something does give it will be strong. You can feel the tension rising over there. It may still be fifteen years away.

Spoke to a friend yesterday, an architect, who was over there this year and he said the infrastructure (bridges, roads, parks, etc.) was in very poor condition. The place is turning into South America. Didn't Trump promise to fix this? He better.

 

[basilio]

So Donald Trump is not planning to sack Robert Mueller. Will special counsel Mueller last until Christmas or is his demise Donalds special Chrissie present to himself and his crooked cronies ?

Trump says he is not planning to fire Mueller as Republican attacks increase

• Congressmen and rightwing media ramp up claims of anti-Trump bias
  
• Opinion: What is the Republican playbook for the Mueller investigation?

Donald Trump steps off Marine One on the South Lawn at the White House, after returning from Camp David in Maryland. Photograph: Andrew Harnik/AP
Martin Pengelly


@MartinPengelly

Monday 18 December 2017 09.51 AEDT First published on Monday 18 December 2017 04.30 AEDT


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Donald Trump said on Sunday he was not planning to fire Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating alleged collusion between Trump aides and Russia during the 2016 election.

Speaking to reporters on his arrival back at the White House from Camp David, the president was asked if he intended to take a step that many observers have anticipated and one Democratic congresswoman said could come as soon as Friday.

He replied: “No, I’m not.”

Trump also repeated his contention that there was “no collusion whatsoever” between his aides and Russia.

Earlier in the day, amidst fevered speculation on the issue, senior administration officials criticised Mueller’s work.

Director of legislative affairs Marc Short told NBC there was “no conversation whatsoever in the White House” about firing Mueller and said “the reality is that this administration has complied in every possible way with the special counsel”.

But he added: “Taxpayers have spent millions and millions of dollars on this investigation and it has not yet proven any sense of collusion with the Russians. I think the American people are ready to turn the page.”

Steven Mnuchin, the treasury secretary, told CNN Mueller’s work had become “a giant distraction” that “should be over quickly”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/17/trump-robert-mueller-special-counsel-speculation