Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[moXJO]

Ebola is a river in the Congo
Zika is the name of a forest in Uganda
Fijian flu is named after a province in China.
Spanish Flu
MERS Middle East respiratory syndrome
Guinea worm
West Nile virus
Omsk hemorrhagic fever
Marburg virus
How about Ross river fever? Where's that from.

 

[basilio]

It's still German measles. That's not a kinder reason

Rubbish...There was a clear historical reason for the original name to honour the German doctors who identified it as a separate strain from normal measles. Medically its called Rubella but common usage has seen the German measles name still used in many circles.

The reason, the only reason, to put the moniker of the "Chinese virus" on the current disease is to disparage China politically. It has been practice for many years to give a medical name to new diseases to stop the sort of nastiness currently being used by Trump and co.

Thats it Moxjo. Nothing simpler than being mean.

 

[basilio]

The list you give ? Great. But they weren't used to disparage countries.

For the sake of ease of use you can put a regional source.

If people aren't xresholes they might not end up disparaging that country or area.
But if you are a truly supreme xrsewipe like the current White House resident then meanness and vindictiveness is in your DNA so you will take every opportunity to slag off at perceived opponents.

And of course those people who love a bit of aggro will dutifully start abusing anyone with a Chinese connection as "part of the disease".

This is not a healthy discussion MoXjo. You can't or won't see why the use of the phrase Chinese Virus is not deliberately disparaging in these times ? Then that's your identity.

 

[basilio]

Of course the first discussions around the virus simply labelled it corona virus. The decision to make it COVID 19 was to specify it more clearly if/when a variant comes to light.
It took the current Whitehouse incumbent to really make a splash with a cultural name.

 

[moXJO]

Oh fine, we will call it Basilio virus.

 

[moXJO]

The list you give ? Great. But they weren't used to disparage countries.

For the sake of ease of use you can put a regional source.

If people aren't xresholes they might not end up disparaging that country or area.
But if you are a truly supreme xrsewipe like the current White House resident then meanness and vindictiveness is in your DNA so you will take every opportunity to slag off at perceived opponents.

And of course those people who love a bit of aggro will dutifully start abusing anyone with a Chinese connection as "part of the disease".

This is not a healthy discussion MoXjo. You can't or won't see why the use of the phrase Chinese Virus is not deliberately disparaging in these times ? Then that's your identity.

The reason being is that the CCP are trying to cover up. They are pushing propaganda to blame everyone (e.g. italy or US).
People don't even know the true timeline of events. And now we have dicks praising China.

Let's lay out the truth. CCP covered up for weeks possibly months. Their response threw the citizens of wuhan under a bus. Exported the virus to the world. And have made a series of sht moves since.

Turning the propaganda back on the CCP to show everyone of their failures is deserved.
Go look what they did to their own citizens during and not the crap the CCP released.

Oh and stop supporting murderous regimes.

 

[basilio]

MoXjo I have never said China didn't make grave mistakes in the first month of the virus outbreak.

When they did take control of the situation they used some pretty brutal methods. Locking down 1 billion people to control this pandemic was not done with just words and entreaties. And make no mistake the UK, Italy, France Aus will take a far more interventionist approach as they realise there are always xicks who can't/won't do the right thing.

But in terms of looking at how countries and leaders have prepared for this crisis? You trotted out a shameless timeline that somehow gave credit to the current administration for their work. It just repeated the litany of deceit and misinformation that has led the US into being the current world leader in COVID infections and mortality. That is the reality the right wing rags are trying to distract people away from.

WE are great. THEY were evil and rubbish. Simple, stupid, vindictive, wrong headed and politically very dangerous.

And supporting murderous regimes? Let's not start comparing the records of US behaviour in the Middle East, Afghanistan and anywhere else VS China. There is plenty of blood to go around.

 

[basilio]

Trump speaks the Truth...
They say a broken clock is right twice a day. Well the current Liar-in-Chief can still make quite honest observations about the intentions of Republicans when it comes to getting re elected any way they can.
Who ever thought that simple things like early voting and vote by mail procedures to ensure every voter had an opportunity to exercise their democratic right .... was actually completely against Republican Party interests

Trump says Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote
President dismissed Democratic-led push for voter reforms amid coronavirus pandemic during Fox & Friends appearance

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-reform-coronavirus

 

[moXJO]

Trump speaks the Truth...
They say a broken clock is right twice a day. Well the current Liar-in-Chief can still make quite honest observations about the intentions of Republicans when it comes to getting re elected any way they can.
Who ever thought that simple things like early voting and vote by mail procedures to ensure every voter had an opportunity to exercise their democratic right .... was actually completely against Republican Party interests

Trump says Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote
President dismissed Democratic-led push for voter reforms amid coronavirus pandemic during Fox & Friends appearance

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-reform-coronavirus

Umm no. Democrats vote by post resulted in dems harvesting votes and trucking them in. No democracy in the world was doing that. None that I can recall. That's why Cali is a sht hole.

 

[moXJO]

MoXjo I have never said China didn't make grave mistakes in the first month of the virus outbreak.

When they did take control of the situation they used some pretty brutal methods. Locking down 1 billion people to control this pandemic was not done with just words and entreaties. And make no mistake the UK, Italy, France Aus will take a far more interventionist approach as they realise there are always xicks who can't/won't do the right thing.

But in terms of looking at how countries and leaders have prepared for this crisis? You trotted out a shameless timeline that somehow gave credit to the current administration for their work. It just repeated the litany of deceit and misinformation that has led the US into being the current world leader in COVID infections and mortality. That is the reality the right wing rags are trying to distract people away from.

WE are great. THEY were evil and rubbish. Simple, stupid, vindictive, wrong headed and politically very dangerous.

And supporting murderous regimes? Let's not start comparing the records of US behaviour in the Middle East, Afghanistan and anywhere else VS China. There is plenty of blood to go around.

Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore were far more reasonable in their response. Mainly because they didn't believe the lies coming out of China.

Go through each Trump point and fact check it if you like. I didn't bother. Are you saying it's wrong?

 

[basilio]

Umm no. Democrats vote by post resulted in dems harvesting votes and trucking them in. No democracy in the world was doing that. None that I can recall. That's why Cali is a sht hole.

Really ? You mean the Republicans couldn't find people who would vote for them by post but the Dems could ?

And becasue the Dems could mobilise their supporters you wouldn't want them to actually have a voice would you ? Nah far better to minimise the polling booths, take as many as you can out of Dem areas, make it as hard as possible to register.
Lets look at the Republician playbook shall we ?

Top Trump adviser: Republicans have 'always' relied on voter suppression

• ‘Traditionally, it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes’
• Adviser Justin Clark says remarks were taken out of context

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/trump-adviser-republicans-voter-suppression

 

[basilio]

Republican agenda: Voter suppression and election fraud
Feb 26th 2019
In North Carolina, the State Board of Elections has thrown out the election results in its 9th congressional district for fraudulent activity—probably the first time in U.S. history this has happened.
The fraud was committed by a campaign, not by voters, and by a Republican, not a Democrat.

For years, Republicans have campaigned for voting restrictions claiming, as Donald Trump has repeatedly, that voter fraud is widespread. In fact, it’s not ineligible voters, but rather the fraudulent efforts of an embattled Republican Party to rig the rules that has led to election irregularities.

The fraud in North Carolina’s 9th District—harvesting absentee ballots to pump up the Republican candidate’s votes—was blatant and illegal.
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/republican-agenda-voter-suppression-and-election-fraud/

 

[basilio]

Republican Play book

Limitations on early and absentee voting
In North Carolina, Republican lawmakers requested data on various voting practices, broken down by race. They then passed laws that restricted voting and registration many ways that disproportionately affected African Americans, including cutting back on early voting.[7][8] In a 2016 appellate court case, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit struck down a law that removed the first week of early voting. The court held that the GOP used the data they gathered to remove the first week of early voting because more African American voters voted during that week, and African American voters were more likely to vote for Democrats.[9] Between 2008 and 2012 in North Carolina, 70% of African American voters voted early.[10] After cuts to early voting, African American turnout in early voting was down by 8.7% (around 66,000 votes) in North Carolina.[11][12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

 

[basilio]

Republican Play book

Voting procedure disinformation
Voting procedure disinformation involves giving voters false information about when and how to vote, leading them to fail to cast valid ballots.

For example, in recall elections for the Wisconsin State Senate in 2011, Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group founded in 2004 by brothers Charles and David Koch to support Republican candidates and causes in the United States,[13] sent many Democratic voters a mailing that gave an incorrect deadline for returning absentee ballots. Voters who relied on the deadline in the mailing could have sent in their ballots too late for them to be counted.[14] The organization claimed that it was caused by a typographical error.[15]

Just prior to the 2018 elections, The New York Times warned readers of numerous types of deliberate misinformation, sometimes targeting specific voter demographics. These types of disinformation included false information about casting ballots online by email and by text message, the circulation of doctored photographs in 2016 which claimed Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents were arresting voters at polling places and included threatening language meant to intimidate Latino voters, polling place hoaxes, disinformation on remote voting options, suspicious texts, voting machine malfunction rumors, misleading photos and videos, and false voter fraud allegations. The Times added that messages purportedly sent by Trump to voters in Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, and Georgia were actually disseminated from Republican organizations. In 2018, Trump actually spread information about defective machines in a single Utah county, giving the impression that such difficulties were occurring nationwide.[16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

 

[basilio]

Republicans push to weaken court that caught them rigging elections

Proposal overhauls how court justices are elected in Pennsylvania, and could offer a roadmap for undermining state courts elsewhere
Two years ago, Pennsylvania’s supreme court dealt a blow to state Republicans when it said they had unconstitutionally rigged congressional elections in the state. Republicans fumed and threatened to impeach four of the justices, but the map was redrawn, and voters elected an even split of Democrats and Republicans to Congress in 2018. Now, Republicans are weaponizing a new tactic – a move that seems designed to increase their power on the state’s highest court.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/23/republican-election-rigging-court-push-to-weaken

 

[moXJO]

Really ? You mean the Republicans couldn't find people who would vote for them by post but the Dems could ?

And becasue the Dems could mobilise their supporters you wouldn't want them to actually have a voice would you ? Nah far better to minimise the polling booths, take as many as you can out of Dem areas, make it as hard as possible to register.
Lets look at the Republician playbook shall we ?

Top Trump adviser: Republicans have 'always' relied on voter suppression

• ‘Traditionally, it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes’
• Adviser Justin Clark says remarks were taken out of context

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/trump-adviser-republicans-voter-suppression

Umm you do know that they allowed other people to vote for them?
Republicans use it as well, more so after the dems changed the course of elections.

A bit here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2020/02/12/harvesting-votes-to-win-in-2020/

Vote harvesting occurs when third parties — like campaign workers — collect absentee ballots from voters and deliver them to election officials.

Allowing individuals other than the voter or his immediate family to handle absentee ballots is a recipe for mischief and wrongdoing.

Giving third parties who have a stake in the outcome of an election unsupervised access to voters and their absentee ballots is not wise.

It makes a mockery of the Democratic process.

But you do support China. So I suppose it looks like a good idea.

 

[moXJO]

Florida man with coronavirus says drug touted by Trump saved his life

https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/

 

[wayneL]

So disappointing that this is being used for political point scoring especially by the left.

That is all

 

[Smurf1976]

The reason, the only reason, to put the moniker of the "Chinese virus" on the current disease is to disparage China politically.

Agreed. Trump's action there was political simple as that.

That said, given China is still running these markets which they say are the cause, they deserve far more than simply being disparaged. One way or another, the rest of the world is going to have to stop them. My hope is that it can be done by peaceful diplomatic means.

That's not to say that other countries haven't failed badly at this, but China continuing with these virus producing markets is inexcusable.

 

[basilio]

but China continuing with these virus producing markets is inexcusable.

Agree. Not a good idea at all.