Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[Knobby22]

What do you think?

 

[sptrawler]

What do you think?

As a person, he isn't my cup of tea, but his policy of forcing multinationals to manufacture back in the U.S i like a lot.
It is something Australia needs to follow, then we wouldn't be in the current predicament, of not having test kits, ventilators, safety respirators and a lot of other things that we now have to import.
The thing with a P.M or a President, he isn't there to be liked, he should be there to push agenda's that strengthen the Country for the people, like him or hate him he has reduced unemployment to levels never seen before.
Also going by his popularity, it seems the press is the only ones not happy with him.
Take Bob Hawke for example, a lot of people didn't like the way he screwed the pilots, the wages accord or the way he left Hazel.
But he and Keating fixed Australia's unemployment and inflation problem and history judges him positively.

 

[Knobby22]

But they haven't got anywhere near enough ventilators, they can't buy them from overseas and are desperately trying to build them from scratch. The New York Mayor was scathing when he got a mere 400.

In contrast, Australia has imported double our original number of ventilators. Way more testing kits and are developing a special test kit that will be released soon.
Even the Democrats Senator yesterday who has all the symptoms is not to be tested as they have not enough test kits in the USA.

It's interesting hearing your views as I begin to understand how they think he is doing a good job and Australia is doing a bad job.
It's amazing. It's like magical thinking. Maybe he can keep the death statistics off the records by continuing to not test. Are you sure your not watching Fox?

 

[moXJO]

The dems? Pulling a long bow. Gee all those Dems running companies and moving the factories overseas. If only the Republicans had of been running the country and owning those companies.

Obama "Manufacturing will not return to the US"
Wasn't there mention of trump needing a magic wand.
Last time I checked Dems were still up Soros ass.

At least Trump attempted it.

 

[sptrawler]

But they haven't got anywhere near enough ventilators, they can't buy them from overseas and are desperately trying to build them from scratch. The New York Mayor was scathing when he got a mere 400.

In contrast, Australia has imported double our original number of ventilators. Way more testing kits and are developing a special test kit that will be released soon.
Even the Democrats Senator yesterday who has all the symptoms is not to be tested as they have not enough test kits in the USA.

It's interesting hearing your views as I begin to understand how they think he is doing a good job.
It's amazing. It's like magical thinking. Maybe he can keep the death statistics off the records by continuing to not test.

Your first sentence is exactly why Trump is liked, they used to manufacture all that stuff, but the multi nationals sent it all to cheap labour Countries, to increase profits. You should read up on the Lima agreement of the 1970's
If it is a prerequisite for you to like a persons personality and traits, before voting for them, that is fine.
With me, it is more about what they plan to do, or not do and how it will effect me, my family, my grandkids and the Country as a whole.
The last thing I look at is the persons appearance, characteristics or personality.
It is like in a business, if you are the boss, you aren't there to be everyone's friend. The same with a coach of a football team, if the coach is one of the boys, they seldom achieve much success.
IMO too many politicians in recent history, have been more about how they look or perform on T.V, than sorting out structural problems in Australia's economy.
Just my opinion.

 

[Knobby22]

No worries.

 

[basilio]

Donald Trump has been spruiking the idea that by Easter we could expected crowded churches praising the Resurrection of the Great American Dream led by the Son of God himself.

I reckon this story goes to the heart of why Donald Trump has no place as a leader.

No greater love hath Trump than to lay down your life for his re-election
Richard Wolffe
Only a once-in-a-century leader has the guts to say out loud what the worst among us are really thinking: everyone other than me is expendable

Donald Trump isn’t much of a doctor or scientist. He isn’t much of a diplomat or general. His leadership skills match his business skills. There’s a reason his companies went bankrupt so many times.

But he might just be a pioneer with this idea of letting people die for the sake of the country. Only a once-in-a-century leader has the guts to say out loud what the worst among us are really thinking: everyone other than me is expendable.

Anyone older is past it, for sure. The younger ones we can easily afford to lose: they don’t actually pay for anything. The smarter ones? Totally annoying. The dumber ones: what’s even the point?

The sick are a real drain on us, financially and emotionally. The poor won’t really do much in the long run, no matter how hard we try. The wealthy just keep shoving it in your face. Foreigners aren’t like us at all. And our neighbors are frankly a bit too close for comfort.

So when you add it all up, it’s only sensible that we ask everyone else to sacrifice themselves for us. For the sake of the nation and all that’s good, please just go, so that the rest of us – not counting the undesirables – can get back to our old lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ald-trump-coronavirus-response-richard-wolffe

 

[IFocus]

Trump dismantled the very department that was to respond to this crisis.

Korea kept theirs.

Maybe the psychology of the US is they like a good old blood bath which they are going to get.

Or maybe they are so self centred AKA "the jack system" as long as its the "other guy" or "my gun is my right" there is no problem.

Who knows but we are seeing the US unmasked in all its glory its not looking good the line is going the wrong way.

God help America

 

[moXJO]

Trump wants to bring back onshore pharmaceutical manufacturing.
A lot of the pills coming out of China were tainted with carcinogens. They are also at the mercy of China with supply.

 

[IFocus]

Trump wants to bring back onshore pharmaceutical manufacturing.
A lot of the pills coming out of China were tainted with carcinogens. They are also at the mercy of China with supply.

The US is at the mercy of big pharma paying off politicians drug prices are obscene in the US

 

[moXJO]

The US is at the mercy of big pharma paying off politicians drug prices are obscene in the US

I think it's a dangerous game when you offshore too many industries. Especially in times of crisis. Globalization is looking like sht at the moment.

 

[IFocus]

I think it's a dangerous game when you offshore too many industries. Especially in times of crisis. Globalization is looking like sht at the moment.

Agree about offshoring critical products, you can add selling off to private companies essential services as well IMHO

 

[moXJO]

Agree about offshoring critical products, you can add selling off to private companies essential services as well IMHO

Especially to foreign companies tied to foreign governments.

 

[basilio]

Trump wants to bring back onshore pharmaceutical manufacturing.
A lot of the pills coming out of China were tainted with carcinogens. They are also at the mercy of China with supply.

Really ? You have proof of that accusation ? Where have we seen a legitimate story about contaminated drugs from China ? Please share MoXjo ..

 

[moXJO]

Really ? You have proof of that accusation ? Where have we seen a legitimate story about contaminated drugs from China ? Please share MoXjo ..

Oh sorry comrade. Did I go against the wailing against Trump.

Carcinogens Have Infiltrated the Generic Drug Supply in the U.S

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...inted-generic-drug-valsartan-got-past-the-fda

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/nyp...dden-perils-of-drugs-imported-from-china/amp/

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09/06/consumers-at-risk-from-medicines-made-in-china/

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...fda-inspector-warns-dangers-u-s-meds-n1002971

 

[basilio]

Thanks moXjo. That was an important story from Bloomberg. It did remind us of how companies whether they are in China, India or the US can take very dangerous shortcuts when maximising profits.

And I think that is particularly significant when we recognize how Trump has slashed government regulations on Health and Safety regulations across US industry.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-trump-begins-to-slash-red-tape-idUSKCN1C619Q

 

[basilio]

As I have seen it companies in the US an Australia have been very quick to move their product source overseas to China or India or Vietnam or the next cheap production centre. They squeeze the foreign company to the floor in terms of price. Inevitably the quality and safety of products suffers.

When the product comes back the company makes an absolute mint becasue production costs are much cheaper but margins have improved.

Certainly makes a case for stricter regulations across the board to ensure safe quality products doesn't it ?

 

[moXJO]

Trump is a greedy idiot when it comes to a lot of areas. His fight back against China and attempts to bring the US back to self reliance has been very forward thinking.

Europe is regretful of the mess they have made. The current greek/turkey border shows they have backfliped on their past positions towards asylum seekers.

 

[moXJO]

As I have seen it companies in the US an Australia have been very quick to move their product source overseas to China or India or Vietnam or the next cheap production centre. They squeeze the foreign company to the floor in terms of price. Inevitably the quality and safety of products suffers.

When the product comes back the company makes an absolute mint becasue production costs are much cheaper but margins have improved.

Certainly makes a case for stricter regulations across the board to ensure safe quality products doesn't it ?

The problem now is China jumping on distressed assets.

 

[dutchie]

The Senate (Republicans majority) just passed a bill for economic relief (stimulus). Part of the funds ($25 million) is allocated to give the politicians a raise.
What a joke. The Republican Swamp is alive and well.