Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

I am 100% for Trump staying in another 4 years. I think if it doesn't happen it will be because of the Republicans replacing him.

The USA public need to understand that they are being played by powerful interests. There is a a reason the average lifespan is much lower than most countries (e.g. 8 years less than Australia). There is a reason they pay way too much for medicine and healthcare. There is a reason their infrastructure is failing and the middle class is disappearing. There is a reason their schooling has dropped below nearly every western country. Not long ago they were no. 1 country in the world!

To learn the lesson, they need another 4 years of Trump. So go Trump 2020. And to Trumps credit he has more of an idea what to do than the Republican Party who have been completely captured. You never know, with a good win he may be allowed to do a few things.

moXJO said:

"Cult of Trump" how about cult of reality.

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Tee hee ... have you been to seek help ?


Your leader !! Hail to the chief !!

New ad out for 2020 Trump ...

Voters For Trump Ad

ITs a must see !!

MAGA ... 2020 !! and yes that is IRONY.

kahuna1 said:

Tee hee ... have you been to seek help ?


Your leader !! Hail to the chief !!

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I'm not talking trump in general. I'm talking about the tds every time theres an attempt to bring him down. You guys ever look at what you type. I could give two shts really. But there needs to be some kind of balance to the reality of the situation.

Well 5 people said Trump withheld aid ...

NOW there are 6.
Here is the Republican party rebuttal witness who ADMITS ... he found the whole thing inappropriate.

I know ... Lets ignore Sunderland ... the Lt Colonel even the ambassador ... Hill and the other person.

Balance ?

In even a delusional world there is no question as to the action, the intention and the evidence.

Then again, I am as always astounded by Gaslighting and projections by the mentally disturbed.

Here is the guy ... his testimony ... and why he, the Republican,Trump witness even reported it to the higher powers to HIDE the evidence.

2 minutes in ... asked did he advise the NSC .. National Security Council legal advisor about the conversation ... and he responds YES ... so as to hide the record on a secure server.


None of it matters. rule of law ... democracy ...

None of it matters in 2020. I am not sure one could get 6 witness's to a crime and testify to that and have any judge not rule guiltily.

Then again this is the USA and USA senate.

Bidens, Clintons, Bushes have been monetizing office for a long time. Real corruption was committed.

I'm always amused when lefties think Trump brought corruption to the US office. He's the one that exposed it all, unintentional or not. US politics and the way its viewed are forever changed.

Michael Bloomberg, a real threat to Trump ?

Let's hope so.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11...launches-democratic-presidential-bid/11733650

SirRumpole said:

Michael Bloomberg, a real threat to Trump ?

Let's hope so.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11...launches-democratic-presidential-bid/11733650

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I don't know a hell of a lot about him to be honest, but let's hope he introduces some sanity to the democratic side.

wayneL said:

I don't know a hell of a lot about him to be honest, but let's hope he introduces some sanity to the democratic side.

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Self made man, experience in public administration, not of the looney left, seems a good alternative to the craziness.

SirRumpole said:

Michael Bloomberg, a real threat to Trump ?

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Yes his chances of winning are zero. Maybe he can stop and frisk more colored people > In New York city, when Bloomberg was mayor ,,,, if you were African American and an adult your chances of having a criminal conviction and most for trivial misdemeanors rose by 25% under Bloomberg. In fact each year 100% of all Negros were stopped and frisked ... about 500,000- each year.

Delusional non tax paying American Billionaires and this is the 6th to enter the race !! I am being generous including Trump as one !!

I note Obama ... who now has amassed 85 million via speaking to investment banks post 2016 and his choice another later entry held a rally and only 3 people turned up. At least Bloomberg can pay people to turn up !!

Trump 2020 ... and by 2024 ... well the changes we have seen post 2016 will look tame. Fox news will be the only approved news on all channels and one will not be able to turn it off.

@kahuna1 if nothing else, at least your histrionics are amusing

wayneL said:

if nothing else, at least your histrionics are amusing

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Hold your breath .... I will get back to you.

Judge Decides the Son of God is not Above the Law.

There will be some interesting observations coming from this testimony.
Mind you there will nothing that could be called evidence. After all these guys were just top presidential advisors.. They had no idea what was going on did they ?

Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must testify in impeachment inquiry, judge rules
Trump administration had argued McGahn had ‘absolute immunity’ as a top presidential adviser

A federal judge has landed a damaging blow on Donald Trump in the US president’s ongoing fight with Congress, ruling that the former White House counsel Donald McGahn must testify in the impeachment hearings despite claims that he had “absolute immunity” as a top presidential adviser.

.....In terms that left no room for ambiguity, the judge scathingly remarked that the White House had got its separation-of-powers thinking in relation to the respective standing of the president, Congress and judiciary “exactly backwards”.

Pointedly, the judge added: “It is a core tenet of this nation’s founding that the powers of a monarch must be split between the branches of the government to prevent tyranny.”

It was the role of the judiciary to interpret the law and of Congress to conduct investigations of suspected abuses of power by the government, she wrote in the 120-page opinion. The Department of Justice’s claim “to unreviewable absolute testimonal immunity on separation-of-powers grounds … is baseless, and as such, cannot be sustained.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/25/don-mcgahn-testify-impeachment-inquiry

The Son of God is being challenged by the Rule of Law.

The crux point of today's judicial ruling regarding Donald Trumps capacity to offer absolute immunity to staff regarding testifying to Congress.

“Presidents are not kings.”

That’s how U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson dismantled the Trump administration’s argument that the president had the power to compel “ absolute immunity” to block former senior White House aides from having to testify before Congress.

The White House’s legal argument has “startling and untenable implications” and is incompatible with “our constitutional scheme,” Jackson wrote.

“Stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings. This means that they do not have subjects, bound by loyalty or blood, whose destiny they are entitled to control. Rather, in this land of liberty, it is indisputable that current and former employees of the White House work for the People of the United States, and that they take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Moreover, as citizens of the United States, current and former senior-level presidential aides have constitutional rights, including the right to free speech, and they retain these rights even after they have transitioned back into private life.”

Read the full ruling here.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...chment-democrats-2020-election-latest-updates

Hahhaha ..

the really big news was GYM Jordan is being sued for knowing about sexual molestation charges. He is or WAS the talking head for the Republicans.

The next worst one, Devin Nunes again a republican ... its now been revealed HE went to Vienna and met with the Ukrainians and was neck deep in the Trump effort to get dirt on the Bidens.

This monster, Nunes spent $57,000- of taxpayers money on that trip with three aides and instead of preaching as he did, he should have been the one being questioned.

A house investigation is under way and it does not look good as his travel records and expenses are public record.

Last but not least ... worst for Trump ... Giuliani his lawyer and an associate of Trump himself one of the two Ukrainians arrested when trying to leave the country has spilled the beans.

This is key ... HE not only told a story of Trump conversations ... HE TAPED THEM !!

This is going to be fascinating hearing Trump himself and that turkey ex NY Mayor come lawyer of his on tape .... with their bloody head in the cookie jar.

Deny all they like ...

I am awaiting the tapes being made public and both those two elected officials held to account. GYM JORDAN is a disgrace ...

This revelation of actual taped conversations between Trump ... Ukrainian thugs and his lawyer acting for Trump is about as damming as it gets.

This said, I still dont expect the Senate to vote to impeach.
I believe some are even video with sound of meetings ... which is going to be hilarious.

Trump can deny all he likes, sadly He sent a republican lackey to meet in Vienna and that seems clear.
These make the Nixon tapes when eventually produced look tame.

Whilst I doubt for the true delusional believers they will deny anything and everything. Whilst not all of the USA is this stupid seems to escape Trump who today claimed 95% support among the Republicans and even with video I suspect most will not sway.

It is however in the end down to the USA people and their vote.
I note another billionaire is trying to buy the presidency already spending in a single month more than any other person running.

Pity it actually takes more than white only people to get elected.

So so so amusing this latest twist. A person who had child molestation reported to him was one questioner .... the other neck deep in arranging the dirty tricks and now .... its all blown up in their face thanks to a Ukrainian Gangster who taped and video recorded their meetings.

I am sure not a lot will make it to the corporate media until they release the actual details and videos of the President or Ex President of the USA arranging a smear job.

MAGA 2020 ... tee hee.

Maybe Bloomberg who is really right wing and was a Republican for decades should run as the Republican nominee ?

RECORDINGS of Trump & Giuliani Delivered to Congress


House Intelligence Committee has video and audio recordings from Giuliani associate Lev Parnas

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/25/ho...ecordings-from-giuliani-associate-lev-parnas/

Further evidence of Donald Trumps interference with the funds allocated by Congress for military aid.

Two White House budget officials resigned over Ukraine aid freeze, witness says – live
Office took steps to withhold funds from Ukraine on same day as Trump’s call with president, according to testimony

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House committees have released remaining transcripts from closed-door depositions

Congress released transcripts of testimony from Mark Sandy, an official in the White House Office of Management and Budget, and Philip Reeker, a state department official.

Sandy said that the OMB began the process of withholding funds on July 25 — the same day as Donald Trump’s now infamous phone call with the Ukranian president. He also testified that he wasn’t initially given a reason for withholding the funds, and was reassigned after he raised concerns that a freeze would violate the Impoundment Control Act.

Reeker, who has worked at the state department since 1992 and testified despite pressure from the White House not to do so, said there was “understanding” among officials that Rudy Giuliani was feeding Trump negative information about Ukraine. He also said that top state department officials, under the guidance of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blocked an effort to release a statement of support for former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

With these latest releases, the House Intelligence Committee has made the last of the remaining closed-door testimonies public.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...crats-don-mcgahn-2020-election-latest-updates

The next shoe to drop is when Trump decides to unfreeze the aid to the Ukraine - after he hears about the whistle blower complaint.

Report: Trump knew about the whisteblower complaint when he unfroze aid to Ukraine
Donald Trump was briefed about the whistleblower complaint about the president’s dealings with Ukraine before he unfroze aid to the country, the New York Times reports:

Lawyers from the White House counsel’s office told Mr. Trump in late August about the complaint, explaining that they were trying to determine whether they were legally required to give it to Congress, the people said.

The revelation could shed light on Mr. Trump’s thinking at two critical points under scrutiny by impeachment investigators: his decision in early September to release $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine and his denial to a key ambassador around the same time that there was a “quid pro quo” with Kyiv. Mr. Trump used the phrase before it had entered the public lexicon in the Ukraine affair.

Mr. Trump faced bipartisan pressure from Congress when he released the aid. But the new timing detail shows that he was also aware at the time that the whistle-blower had accused him of wrongdoing in withholding the aid and in his broader campaign to pressure Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to conduct investigations that could benefit Mr. Trump’s re-election chances.

Why should Congress impeach Donald Trump even though the Republicans in the Senate will (almost certainly) back him ?

There are a number of excellent reasons outlined in the analysis below.

Perhaps the most significant point is that Donald Trump cannot be pardoned in the future if Congress impeachs him.

Trump won't lose his job – but the impeachment inquiry is still essential
Robert Reich
The process is required by the constitution, seems to be shifting voters’ opinions, and will render the president unpardonable
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/trump-impeachment-inquiry-removal

basilio said:

Why should Congress impeach Donald Trump even though the Republicans in the Senate will (almost certainly) back him ?

There are a number of excellent reasons outlined in the analysis below.

Perhaps the most significant point is that Donald Trump cannot be pardoned in the future if Congress impeachs him.

Trump won't lose his job – but the impeachment inquiry is still essential
Robert Reich
The process is required by the constitution, seems to be shifting voters’ opinions, and will render the president unpardonable
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/trump-impeachment-inquiry-removal

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Trump won't be impeached, due to the iron laws of arithmetic.