Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[basilio]

There will have to be a lot of room under Sondilands bus. He has connected all the main actors in this situation.
The 3 minute video clip says it all.

inquiry
Sondland's bombshell testimony blows holes in Trump's Ukraine defence

• Ambassador to EU testifies as House impeachment hearing
• Sondland: ‘We followed the president’s orders’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/20/trump-impeachment-hearings-gordon-sondland-testimony

 

[moXJO]

What a "bombshell"

Sondland acknowledged he never heard directly from Trump that the security assistance hinged on an announcement of investigations, adding that the conclusion was his “own personal guess”

They have any evidence beyond "personal guesses"?

 

[basilio]

What a "bombshell"



They have any evidence beyond "personal guesses"?

What a "bombshell"



They have any evidence beyond "personal guesses"?

Yeah Moxjo. Check out just who knew what about the President intentions on what he wanted from the Ukraine PM.
All neatly laid out by Don's handpicked ambassador.

Gordon Sondland’s Explosive Impeachment Testimony Implicates Trump: A Closer Look

 

[Knobby22]

It's not fun looking after Trump, so easy to end up in jail.

According to Fox (reading between the lines) it looks like the Republicans will throw Rudy Giuliani off the bus (to save Trump).

 

[moXJO]

Yeah Moxjo. Check out just who knew what about the President intentions on what he wanted from the Ukraine PM.
All neatly laid out by Don's handpicked ambassador.

Gordon Sondland’s Explosive Impeachment Testimony Implicates Trump: A Closer Look

His words involved "guess". I hope they have more than that.

 

[moXJO]

It's not fun looking after Trump, so easy to end up in jail.

According to Fox (reading between the lines) it looks like the Republicans will throw Rudy Giuliani off the bus (to save Trump).

I don't think they need to. There isn't enough to pin trump

 

[basilio]

I don't think they need to. There isn't enough to pin trump

Interesting... So far 10 diplomats and officials have reiterated and corroborated the demands made on the Ukraine PM to announce investigations into Donald Trumps political opponents before Congress approved military aid was delivered.
And that isn't enough ?

Perhaps you need 10 stone tablets inscribed by the Hand of the Lord to verify these witnesses.

Or perhaps that there is absolutely no way you will ever accept evidence of Donald Trumps corruption.

 

[bellenuit]

The interesting thing is Trumps response to Sondland: “I don’t want anything. I want no quid pro quo” (or something to that effect). The very use of that term in that context strongly looks like he is trying to dissociate himself from the whistleblower allegations that had just come to light. If he had left it at “I don’t want anything” it would have been more believable. But adding the quid pro quo bit looks like he is trying to get something on the record, knowing he has been exposed.

 

[basilio]

The interesting thing is Trumps response to Sondland: “I don’t want anything. I want no quid pro quo” (or something to that effect). The very use of that term in that context strongly looks like he is trying to dissociate himself from the whistleblower allegations that had just come to light. If he had left it at “I don’t want anything” it would have been more believable. But adding the quid pro quo bit looks like he is trying to get something on the record, knowing he has been exposed.

Bleeding obvious isn't it ?

 

[Knobby22]

I don't think they need to. There isn't enough to pin trump

I won't you in my jury if I commit murder. ;-)

 

[SirRumpole]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...itten-note-impeachment-defense-i-want-nothing

 

[moXJO]

Interesting... So far 10 diplomats and officials have reiterated and corroborated the demands made on the Ukraine PM to announce investigations into Donald Trumps political opponents before Congress approved military aid was delivered.
And that isn't enough ?

Perhaps you need 10 stone tablets inscribed by the Hand of the Lord to verify these witnesses.

Or perhaps that there is absolutely no way you will ever accept evidence of Donald Trumps corruption.

Hearsay isn't evidence.....
You guys are deluded if you think anything presented so far is hard evidence.

 

[moXJO]

I won't you in my jury if I commit murder. ;-)

If its a couple of guys saying you did it on best "guess", then you're going to be walking

 

[wayneL]

It also fails the high crimes test for impeachment as set out.

These stupid democrats will have putting the tea bag and milk in, in the wrong order, and on hearsay, as an impeachable offence soon.

I am embarrassed to be the same species as those clowns.

 

[SirRumpole]

It also fails the high crimes test for impeachment as set out.

These stupid democrats will have putting the tea bag and milk in, in the wrong order, and on hearsay, as an impeachable offence soon.

I am embarrassed to be the same species as those clowns.

Come on, using public money to achieve a private advantage ?

That's corruption through and through.

 

[wayneL]

Come on, using public money to achieve a private advantage ?

That's corruption through and through.

Are you referring to the purported quid pro quo?

 

[SirRumpole]

Are you referring to the purported quid pro quo?

Investigation of a political rival in return for aid money ? Nothing wrong with that ?

 

[satanoperca]

Wayne what is the issue with impeachment?

Why should the Don be troubled if he has done nothing wrong?

If he is telling the truth, he should be encouraging the Dem's, because when they loose, it will be the best political leverage money cannot buy to win the next election.

On the other side of the coin, if he is guilty, he is screwed.

 

[wayneL]

Investigation of a political rival in return for aid money ? Nothing wrong with that ?

There is nothing in that except the Demo narrative. The actual crime is from the Bidens.

That's how this is going to turn out... and the public know it. Trump leading all Dem noms ATM.

 

[wayneL]

Wayne what is the issue with impeachment?

Why should the Don be troubled if he has done nothing wrong?

If he is telling the truth, he should be encouraging the Dem's, because when they loose, it will be the best political leverage money cannot buy to win the next election.

On the other side of the coin, if he is guilty, he is screwed.

That is it, at the end of the day. But based on what's come out so far, they've got nothing.