Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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basilio said:

Nice find Rumpy. Had to directly quote Sam Harris comments re Donald Trump.

How Donald Trump rewrites the rules of reality
"Honestly, thus far, that [the casualty of truth] is the most harmful aspect of his presidency. Just the complete ruination of any standard of honesty in political discourse and it's astonishing to me. I have not yet accepted that this is even possible, much less actual. I don't think I'm alone, but I'm continually having the bewildering experience that I just cannot believe that this person is president. It is all focused on this particular aspect of his presidency, where he lies more than any person has ever lied in human history and not only does he get away with it, his supporters seem to delight in his running roughshod over any expectation that a public figure would be honest. It's not a bug, it's a feature for them and that's really disturbing. He has enough people that support him for whom the lying is not actually a problem, it's a technique. It's a kind of naked declaration of power, where he doesn't have to observe your expectations about what is logical or coherent or responsive to facts. He can just say what he wants, because it's the impression he wants to leave with you. He wants a certain language in the air and he just puts it there.

But all lying is just destructive of the social fabric, even so called white lies undermine trust, they undermine relationships, they destroy reputations — that is in a context where people care about the truth. But what's amazing now, we seem to be in some kind of freefall with respect to this and so many people do not care if you are caught lying. And Donald Trump seems to have rewritten the rules.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-...ruth-and-lies-in-the-donald-trump-era/9819290

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basilio said:

Moxjo there is no BS in quoting what Donald Trump says. Forget "leftist bias" rubbish. Every single paper will report exactly the same thing about what Donald trump said.

1) I believe I absolutely have the power to pardon myself .
2) But in any case I've done nothing.

This is a President who knows no limits.

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moXJO said:

He must have a reason why he keeps posting this crap.

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basilio said:

Yep. It seems to be part of his strategy to undermine the Mueller investigation and continue to "normalise" political actions that until now everyone has considered totally unacceptable.

But the idea of what is "unacceptable" political activity has been systematically by a President who decides that anything he says is acceptable.

Trump’s New Strategy for Responding to Robert Mueller
The president’s message focuses on undermining the investigators and investigation, rather than insisting that no crimes were committed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...tegy-for-responding-to-robert-mueller/560723/

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By the way have you ever seen the fantastic economic results achieved by Adolf Hitler from 1933-1938 ? Quite exceptional in terms of employment, business activity and national Pride.

And FDR managed to turn the economy around from the disaster of 1933 (final collapse of the banks ) to around 1936.

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basilio said:

Yep. It seems to be part of his strategy to undermine the Mueller investigation and continue to "normalise" political actions that until now everyone has considered totally unacceptable.

But the idea of what is "unacceptable" political activity has been systematically by a President who decides that anything he says is acceptable.

Trump’s New Strategy for Responding to Robert Mueller
The president’s message focuses on undermining the investigators and investigation, rather than insisting that no crimes were committed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...tegy-for-responding-to-robert-mueller/560723/

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By the way have you ever seen the fantastic economic results achieved by Adolf Hitler from 1933-1938 ? Quite exceptional in terms of employment, business activity and national Pride.

And FDR managed to turn the economy around from the disaster of 1933 (final collapse of the banks ) to around 1936.

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moXJO said:

Hitler also made the Olympics what they are today. He made a lot of advances and would have gone down as one of the greats in history. Unfortunately you don't win friends by war and genocide.

There was a movie years ago based on a true story, I think it was called "the wave".
Shows how people slowly accept doing terrible things.
Teacher shows his students how the German population accepted hitler after a student asks how they could do those terrible things.
Probably more important than ever for people on both sides to remember.

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moXJO said:

I'm interested in the job figures. Is it true that unemployment among women is the lowest in 60 years?

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SirRumpole said:

I don't think that Trump has been in long enough to have had any effect on the economy. Economies change relatively slowly either way so if the US economy has improved then it would likely have done so over a longer period of time than his Presidency.

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basilio said:

MoXjo, the process of how to socialise or groom people/students into accepting authoritarian dictates is one of the key elements of every SJW teacher. It's in our jeans..

The original project which demonstrated how easy and effective this process can work happened in 1967 in the US. It was called The Third Wave. Worth a read.

Background to the Third Wave experiment
The experiment took place at Cubberley High School in Palo Alto, California, during the first week of April 1967.[1] Jones, finding himself unable to explain to his students how the German population could have claimed ignorance of The Holocaust, decided to demonstrate it to them instead.[3] Jones started a movement called "The Third Wave" and told his students that the movement aimed to eliminate democracy.[1] The idea that democracy emphasizes individuality was considered as a drawback of democracy, and Jones emphasized this main point of the movement in its motto: "Strength through discipline, strength through community, strength through action, strength through pride."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)
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This is the story from the teacher who ran the experiment. Very, very sobering. Mind you the students became outstanding learners in only a few days under this regime... Maybe it's the way to go if we are to be No 1 on the Education Table.
https://web.archive.org/web/2005022....ca/Auxiliary/Psychology/Frank/Thirdwave.html

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moXJO said:

He hit the ground running. I think he got some of the bigger companies to move back to the US, encouraged business, investors etc. I'm interested in seeing how the tariffs play out.

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