Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[wayneL]

It's not the article, it's the body of work Komrade.

Dude, we can all read our various news sources. You'd have to be asleep under a rock not to have seen this particular story.

But again, that's not the point.

PS - nice tacit admission there bro.

 

[basilio]

You don't like the body of work Wayne ? Bit smelly is it mate ? Does it stink of corruption, stupidity incompetance? Perhaps you want to say its all fake news. That none of it ever happened and that anyway the people voted for Trump and that's all that counts.

But for the sake of the current investigations lets see how this observation goes down.


[Bannon] is particularly scathing about a June 2016 meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner, then campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York. A trusted intermediary had promised documents that would “incriminate” rival Hillary Clinton but instead of alerting the FBI to a potential assault on American democracy by a foreign power, Trump Jr replied in an email: “I love it.”


The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.


“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad xhit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”


Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.


Bannon added: “You never see it, you never know it, because you don’t need to … But that’s the brain trust that they had.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-jr-trump-tower-meeting-russians-treasonous/

 

[notting]

Steve Bannon Calls Kushner, Manafort, Don Jr. Trump Tower Meeting with Russians ‘Treasonous’

Well since Bannon was party to it and supportive at the time and subsequently, he should be the first to be arrested. This is a written confession.

None of them seriously stand for anything there just bunch of ego maniacs without a cause.

 

[luutzu]

Well bring Trump and his wife to Melbourne.

As I said, imv, he is another Reagan.

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https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/freedom-of-speech-and-protest.31657/page-6

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/what-does-the-alt-right-want.33644/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/

Why insult Reagan like that?

The Gipper was a far better actor delivering his speeches much more convincingly than The Donald. All his speeches were delivered very.... very presidentially.

None of the hand milking a mouse's tit gesture; none of the heavy breathing; and he actually switch between teleprompters without you noticing he figured there's two of them.

But gotta give it to Trump, if he and his family aren't in prison by the end of his term, they'll be filthy rich after this season of the White House though.

 

[luutzu]

I think the 'camel through the eye of a needle,' is a far more brilliant and far reaching classic than the other two (which were more like comedy.)
But hey, almost all of the billionaires in China are in the Chinese Communist Party so Deng Xiaoping's slogan, "To get rich is glorious." would seem to be much closer to the Chinese hearts than a Western thing. Especially if it means at the expense of the people you dictate over.

Getting rich is alright. Getting greedy is a bit different though.
That's not to say the Chinese, or the comrades in Beijing, aren't greedy. All humans are greedy... the elite of the world are just a lot better at it.

Deng's move to open the Chinese market up was a clear sign that the Comrades, like all gov't, fear their plebs more than they'd want to admit. I think Deng said to his comrades that if China keep going the way Mao wanted... you know, closed up, don't trust bourgeois engineers, metallurgist or dam builders... the comrades will soon have to fly away to America with their billions or something.

The peasants were starving and highly unemployed. Without foreign investment and a bit of capitalism there'll be revolt and uprising. That's why they're investing hundreds of billions a year in infrastructure work, building empty cities... Now with the new silk road, they're buying foreign assets and sending the Chinese offshore to work on them. Pretty clever.

Same with the comrades in Hanoi, not the clever bits... their "Doi Moi" (Change) initiatives in the 90s lifted the country. But they shut it down soon after fearing revolt from too much knowledge and capital but not enough proper control and military police

 

[notting]

Not doubting their cunning.
What the Chinese don't understand, however, is that humans will never be overcome by the denial of human rights or basic freedoms.
You can bully small nations and weaklings but not the entire human race!
This is their undoing.
Building a society on fear is the weakest of foundations.
As soon as they no longer fear you, the entire infrastructure that holds it together and keeps the apparent order will shatter into dust, no matter how big and powerful it looked at the time.
A Chinese Wall

 

[luutzu]

Not doubting their cunning.
What the Chinese don't understand, however, is that humans will never be overcome by the denial of human rights or basic freedoms.
You can bully small nations and weaklings but not the entire human race!
This is their undoing.
Building a society on fear is the weakest of foundations.
As soon as they no longer fear you, the entire infrastructure that holds it together and keeps the apparent order will shatter into dust, no matter how big and powerful it looked at the time.
A Chinese Wall

Yea, if the comrades set up a system that is less corrupt and more open, the country would be more equal and the people a whole lot wealthier. If that were to happen, China will rule the world... if nothing it's just by virtue of the numbers.

But as my cousin Deng Xiaoping said, some will get rich first while others will get there later (a lot, a whole lot, later, if at all).

So yea, with most of the riches belonging to the very top, Communist China is on shaky ground. The coming property bust, or increased unemployment with the added debt they've been racking up... might lead to some fireworks.

I think that's why Beijing changed that one-child policy recently. They're hoping more Chinese will mean more economic productivity and internal consumerism insulating the economy from international disruption. That and them islands and new colonies need a few permanent military outposts and colonialists to man them.

Seems the comrades, like pretty much all other idiots with too much power, think that the country needs the rich and the elite (like themselves) to make it great. I guess when you have that much money and power, you'd start to believe that rather than believe an old Chinese saying that the ship of state is held up by the people. Just as water hold up the ship, it too can overturn it.

Hard to believe that when you see dirty, poor and landless peasants. How can they compare to comrades wearing $20,000 solid gold grandpa glasses.

 

[notting]

There is a subtle point you missed. It's the dust that sits between the bricks, it's built with fear, corruption and loathing from the people. The structure is faulty and it will fail.
You can't groom it into something more open and palatable when the foundations are rotten to the core.
They still can't take down the picture of Mao or blow up the tomb, even though they understand how he destroyed the country and sent it into the very poverty and misery they now claim to be raising it out of whilst blaming the colonialists.
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[wayneL]

You don't like the body of work Wayne ? Bit smelly is it mate ? Does it stink of corruption, stupidity incompetance? Perhaps you want to say its all fake news. That none of it ever happened and that anyway the people voted for Trump and that's all that counts.

But for the sake of the current investigations lets see how this observation goes down.


[Bannon] is particularly scathing about a June 2016 meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner, then campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York. A trusted intermediary had promised documents that would “incriminate” rival Hillary Clinton but instead of alerting the FBI to a potential assault on American democracy by a foreign power, Trump Jr replied in an email: “I love it.”


The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.


“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad xhit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”


Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.


Bannon added: “You never see it, you never know it, because you don’t need to … But that’s the brain trust that they had.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-jr-trump-tower-meeting-russians-treasonous/

Oh boy! Do you deliberately miss the point by a hemisphere?

S'pose you got a job to do, gotta put food on the table for the baby Komrades eh?

 

[IFocus]

I personally only believe whats on Fox Friends / Hannity and they only tell the truth and report relevance nothing else every thing else is fake bias news and trash

BTW only issue is Hillary is a crook

 

[SirRumpole]

I personally only believe whats on Fox Friends / Hannity and they only tell the truth and report relevance nothing else every thing else is fake bias news and trash

BTW only issue is Hillary is a crook

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[basilio]

Well since Bannon was party to it and supportive at the time and subsequently, he should be the first to be arrested. This is a written confession.

None of them seriously stand for anything there just bunch of ego maniacs without a cause.

I don't think Bannon was party to the Russian connection. The comments he makes about not having lawyers at the meeting suggests he could see how fraught the process would be/look. But who knows.

 

[basilio]

Oh boy! Do you deliberately miss the point by a hemisphere?

S'pose you got a job to do, gotta put food on the table for the baby Komrades eh?

Really Wayne ? I miss the point that you are so blinkered you are up and proud of your refusal to read anything in The Guardian ? That your response to the book by Michael Wolff is say he is another paid schill ? To steadfastly refuse to acknowedge what a truly awful and dangerous President Donald Trump is proving to be ?

And finally to say that anyone who points to the lies, bullying, incompetance, and illegal practices of the Trump administaion is just a propagandist. Wayne you make Fox news look like a paragon of moderation.

 

[wayneL]

No, yer still in the wrong hemisphere bas, sorry.

 

[Tink]

As I mentioned Luutzu, all three were shot, by the stalinists.

Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and John Paul II all survived assassination attempts, and brought down Soviet Communism

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/


As the left surges back, Marxism’s bloody legacy is covered up

https://life.spectator.co.uk/2017/09/as-the-left-surges-back-marxisms-bloody-legacy-is-covered-up/

 

[basilio]

If you ever wanted to be afraid of shooting war nows the time to be properly scared.

The Trump administration is been destroyed by the revelations of Michael Wolffs book. Donald is trying to stop publication. (bit late now since we al know the best bits...)

Historically the the go to position when a President is facing a domestic crisis is starting a war to distract public opinion and pull on the "Flag of Freedom". Wag the dog stuff.

Wait and see.

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President Trump used to boast about having sex with his friends’ wives, devised calculated infidelity plots

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NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Updated: Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:16 PM

President Trump used to brag that sleeping with your friends' wives makes "life worth living," according to a new book.

A passage of author Michael Wolff's Washington tell-all, "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," describes how Trump would devise calculated plots to get the wives of his friends into bed, using jealousy and revenge as bait.

"In pursuing a friend's wife, he would try to persuade the wife that her husband was perhaps not what she thought," reads the passage, a copy of which was obtained by the Daily News.

President Trump used to brag that sleeping with your friends' wives makes "life worth living."
(Alex Wong/Getty Images)
Trump would then have his secretary ask the husband to stop by his office. Once the husband got in, Trump would subject him to "constant sexual banter" — all while having the wife listen in on the conversation via speakerphone.

Trump called Sally Yates ‘such a c--t,’ according to new book

"Do you still like having sex with your wife? How often? You must have had a better f--k than your wife?" Trump would apparently ask friends. "Tell me about it. I have girls coming in from Los Angeles at three o'clock. We can go upstairs and have a great time. I promise."


Donald Trump in the White House
Wolff's book, which is set to be released next week, details the inner workings of a White House in chaos. Trump's former chief strategist Steve Bannon is extensively quoted in the book, oftentimes attacking the President's family and cabinet members.

In the passage about sexually-charged speakerphone incidents, a friend of Trump's describe him as having a lot in common with former President Bill Clinton.

"Except that Clinton had a respectable front and Trump did not," the passage states.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-boast-sex-friends-wives-article-1.3736071

 

[Tisme]

As I mentioned Luutzu, all three were shot, by the stalinists.

Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and John Paul II all survived assassination attempts, and brought down Soviet Communism

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/


As the left surges back, Marxism’s bloody legacy is covered up

https://life.spectator.co.uk/2017/09/as-the-left-surges-back-marxisms-bloody-legacy-is-covered-up/

I like the line : "resentment is always on the lookout for the theories that will justify it" ...... this is something I have never been afflicted with, but, it seems, all to common amongst those who can't handle what even Blind Freddy could see.

 

[wayneL]

If you ever wanted to be afraid of shooting war nows the time to be properly scared.

The Trump administration is been destroyed by the revelations of Michael Wolffs book. Donald is trying to stop publication. (bit late now since we al know the best bits...)

Historically the the go to position when a President is facing a domestic crisis is starting a war to distract public opinion and pull on the "Flag of Freedom". Wag the dog stuff.

Wait and see.

______________________________________________________________

President Trump used to boast about having sex with his friends’ wives, devised calculated infidelity plots

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• Tweet
• email

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Chris Sommerfeldt
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Updated: Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:16 PM

President Trump used to brag that sleeping with your friends' wives makes "life worth living," according to a new book.

A passage of author Michael Wolff's Washington tell-all, "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," describes how Trump would devise calculated plots to get the wives of his friends into bed, using jealousy and revenge as bait.

"In pursuing a friend's wife, he would try to persuade the wife that her husband was perhaps not what she thought," reads the passage, a copy of which was obtained by the Daily News.

President Trump used to brag that sleeping with your friends' wives makes "life worth living."
(Alex Wong/Getty Images)
Trump would then have his secretary ask the husband to stop by his office. Once the husband got in, Trump would subject him to "constant sexual banter" — all while having the wife listen in on the conversation via speakerphone.

Trump called Sally Yates ‘such a c--t,’ according to new book

"Do you still like having sex with your wife? How often? You must have had a better f--k than your wife?" Trump would apparently ask friends. "Tell me about it. I have girls coming in from Los Angeles at three o'clock. We can go upstairs and have a great time. I promise."


Donald Trump in the White House
Wolff's book, which is set to be released next week, details the inner workings of a White House in chaos. Trump's former chief strategist Steve Bannon is extensively quoted in the book, oftentimes attacking the President's family and cabinet members.

In the passage about sexually-charged speakerphone incidents, a friend of Trump's describe him as having a lot in common with former President Bill Clinton.

"Except that Clinton had a respectable front and Trump did not," the passage states.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-boast-sex-friends-wives-article-1.3736071

Which does not go to his administrative ability, Komrade. Lots of leaders are sexual deviants.

For interest, what is your preferred alternative?

 

[luutzu]

Trump (and the Repubs) are planning to cut welfare.

After giving corporations and rich Americans $1.5Trillion in tax cuts, Trump and the Republicans are worried about fiscal irresponsibilities and undeserving people getting welfare from the government.

Hence, top priority for 2018 will be gutting food stamps, healthcare and lunches for kids, poor families, seniors and the sick.

Good thing for the tax cuts though. I mean, the rich and corporate America will definitely use them taxcuts they got towards job creation and trickling down stuff.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rograms-has-republicans-on-edge-idUSKBN1ET1AG

 

[basilio]

Which does not go to his administrative ability, Komrade. Lots of leaders are sexual deviants.

For interest, what is your preferred alternative?

Donald Trump shouldn't be President for a 1001 reasons. 1002 if you count his (alleged) sexual deviance.
Yep practically every President has had some irregularity in their personal lives. Whether its President Rosovelts mistress, President Kennedys myriad affairs and so on.

In my view what takes Donald Trumps behaviour into a totally different league is the alleged use of jealousy and revenge to get iunto bed with his friends wives. I reckon that is pretty beathtaking. It will be interesting to see what sort of fallout comes from that little bombshell.

The critical question is whether he goes Wag the Dog and tries to start a war to deflect attention. Certainly has plenty of opportunity.