Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[luutzu]

We are not talking about Australia or any other non related subject. The issue is Iran and the uprisings over hunger and lack of amenity.

For sure. There's nothing worst than starving the entire country. Hence certain alliance of the willing put sanction on the country for over 30 years just to show how much they care.

I mean, they even care for democracy and the lives of Persians even though the people revolted against the Shah that was put in place once Operation Ajax removed that annoying democratically elected president who want more oil revenue for "the people". Taking from BP, how low can you get.

I could do this all day.

 

[Tisme]

For sure. There's nothing worst than starving the entire country. Hence certain alliance of the willing put sanction on the country for over 30 years just to show how much they care.

I mean, they even care for democracy and the lives of Persians even though the people revolted against the Shah that was put in place once Operation Ajax removed that annoying democratically elected president who want more oil revenue for "the people". Taking from BP, how low can you get.

I could do this all day.

Which is why Iranians are drawn to western countries like bees to honey.... they know their leaders are incapable of discriminating between good government and repressive religious obedience.

 

[Tisme]

Which is why Iranians are drawn to western countries like bees to honey.... they know their leaders are incapable of discriminating between good government and repressive religious obedience.

I should also remind you of the foundation of modern (anglo) democracy and separation of powers: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" Matthew and Mark said so.

 

[notting]

 

[luutzu]

I should also remind you of the foundation of modern (anglo) democracy and separation of powers: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" Matthew and Mark said so.

So you're saying that some 1600 years after Jesus suggests the separation of power, the Christian world finally decided to kinda, sorta follow?

Didn't Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter daddy's kingdom?

And isn't "greed is good", "all for ourselves and screw everyone else" a couple of Western classics?

 

[luutzu]

Which is why Iranians are drawn to western countries like bees to honey.... they know their leaders are incapable of discriminating between good government and repressive religious obedience.

I thought more than a handful of Western politician and "journalist" reckon Iranian refugees are just welfare seekers, not freedom lover?

Seriously though, of course Iran is oppressive and way too religious for most people's taste. But that's kinda better than the freedom and liberty being endured by the Iraqis and Afghanis, the Syrians etc. etc.

 

[notting]

I think the 'camel through the eye of a needle,' is a far more brilliant and far reaching classic than the other two (which were more like comedy.)
But hey, almost all of the billionaires in China are in the Chinese Communist Party so Deng Xiaoping's slogan, "To get rich is glorious." would seem to be much closer to the Chinese hearts than a Western thing. Especially if it means at the expense of the people you dictate over.

 

[Tink]

Well bring Trump and his wife to Melbourne.

As I said, imv, he is another Reagan.

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https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/freedom-of-speech-and-protest.31657/page-6

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/what-does-the-alt-right-want.33644/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/

 

[Tisme]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...sconduct-before-election-day-report-says.html

Hillary Clinton backer paid $500G to fund women accusing Trump of sexual misconduct before Election Day, report says
By Robert Gearty | Fox News

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Image captured Hillary Clinton holdings hands with close friend and Esprit Clothing founder Susie Tompkins Buell. (Associated Press)

One of Hillary Clinton’s wealthy pals paid $500,000 in an unsuccessful effort to fund women willing to accuse President Trump of sexual misconduct before the 2016 election, The New York Times reported Sunday.

Susie Tompkins Buell, the founder of Esprit Clothing and a major Clinton campaign donor for many years, gave the money to celebrity lawyer Lisa Bloom who was working with a number of Trump accusers at the time, according to the paper’s bombshell report.

Bloom solicited donors by saying she was working with women who might “find the courage to speak out” against Trump if the donors would provide funds for security, relocation and possibly a “safe house,” the paper reported.


Former Clinton nemesis turned Clinton operative David Brock also donated $200,000 to the effort through a nonprofit group he founded, the paper reported in an article entitled, “Partisans, Wielding Money, Begin Seeking to Exploit Harassment Claims.”

Bloom told the Times that the effort was unproductive. One woman requested $2 million then decided not to come forward. Nor did any other women.

Bloom said she refunded most of the cash, keeping only some funds for out-of-pocket expenses accrued while working to vet and prepare cases.

The lawyer told the paper she did not communicate with Clinton or her campaign “on any of this.”

She also maintained that she represented only clients whose stories she had corroborated and disputed the premise that she offered money to coax clients to come forward, the paper reported.

“It doesn’t cost anything to publicly air allegations,” Bloom said. “Security and relocation are expensive and were sorely needed in a case of this magnitude, in a country filled with so much anger, hate and violence.”

The Times article said it learned of Buell and Brock's connection to Bloom from two Democrats familiar with the financial arrangements who also said Bloom’s law firm kept the money from Brock's nonprofit group but refunded the $500,000 that Buell contributed.

Brock declined comment, according to the paper.

Clinton campaign representatives said they were unaware of his work with Bloom.

Buell would not comment on the financial arrangement, according to the Times.

Still, she claimed she was frustrated that Trump had escaped the repercussions that have befallen many other powerful men accused of similar misconduct.

The Times article expanded on a report in The Hill two weeks ago that said Bloom worked with campaign donors and tabloid media outlets during the final months of the presidential election to arrange compensation for the alleged Trump victims and a commission for herself, offering to sell their stories.

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In one case Bloom reportedly arranged for a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempted to score a six-figure payout for another woman.

The woman with the mortgage ultimately declined to come forward after being offiered $750,000, The Hill reported.

The paper reported reviewing one email exchange between one woman and Bloom that suggested political action committees supporting Hillary Clinton were solicited, without naming which ones.

Bloom, who is the daughter of famous attorney Gloria Allred and, like her mother, specializes in representing women in sexual harassment cases, worked for four women who were considering accusing Trump. Two went public, and two declined.

 

[basilio]

Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book

• Former White House strategist quoted in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff
• Bannon: ‘They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV

Steve Bannon exits an elevator in the lobby of Trump Tower on 11 November 2016 in New York City. Other Trump campaign officials met with Russians there in June 2016. Photograph: Drew Angerer/Getty Images
David Smith in Washington


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Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaited political books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him.

Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language.

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He is particularly scathing about a June 2016 meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner, then campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York. A trusted intermediary had promised documents that would “incriminate” rival Hillary Clinton but instead of alerting the FBI to a potential assault on American democracy by a foreign power, Trump Jr replied in an email: “I love it.”

The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.


“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

........Bannon also speculated that Trump Jr had involved his father in the meeting. “The chance that Don Jr did not walk these jumos up to his father’s office on the twenty-sixth floor is zero.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

 

[Logique]

Outstanding, a stark message, but entertainingly delivered

 

[wayneL]

I wonder who the paid propagandist in this thread is?

 

[Tisme]

I wonder who the paid propagandist in this thread is?

That's gotta rattle a tree or two.

 

[Logique]

I think the term is "social media influencer".
I suspect they're in the Climate Hysteria thread too.

 

[Knobby22]

I think the term is "social media influencer".
I suspect they're in the Climate Hysteria thread too.

The paid guys are News Corp.

 

[basilio]

Does anyone here want to make on comment on the upcoming book by Michale Wolff which details the the actions in/around the Trump administration ?

Or is it to toxic to even think about ?

 

[wayneL]

Does anyone here want to make on comment on the upcoming book by Michale Wolff which details the the actions in/around the Trump administration ?

Or is it to toxic to even think about ?

Is he a paid shill too?

 

[wayneL]

The paid guys are News Corp.

Yeah?

I see most propaganda quotes the Grauniad. Whether that is in exchange for filthy lucre, we'll probably never know. But if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck....

 

[wayneL]

BTW, most probably know I was in an orange booker think tank when I was in the UK, my best mate was media director fir the then party leader, I kinda know how this works

 

[basilio]

So sorry Wayne. Just remembered that you can't read anything if it's in The Guardian.
Lets find a source you can read with comfort.

Book: Steve Bannon Calls Kushner, Manafort, Don Jr. Trump Tower Meeting with Russians ‘Treasonous’

The Associated Press

by Breitbart News3 Jan 201814888

Former Trump Chief Strategist Steve Bannon describes Don Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort’s infamous Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the 2016 campaign as “unpatriotic” and “treasonous,” according to a new book by Michael Wolff called Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-jr-trump-tower-meeting-russians-treasonous/