What jobs are recession proof?

[MR.]

Any thing to do with cars is a dud unless you are Wheel man for Bank Robs which will be in demand soon, Today paper tells Hair dressers are booming.

Don't agree with cars. New cars yes but not cars already owned. Spare car parts will do OK everyone needs a car. For the ones which are not machanically minded and don't fit the parts themselves to save a buck will still go to a "motor machanic". My brother is targeting spare part sales now from home. (bought the right property)

Basic food processing. Everyone must eat and during downturns... less time is spent at the pub and cafe's, restaurants in Western countries.

Convienient simple processed foods like vegetables and potatoes do well.

Ha, I have been tring to convince a mate of mine for a year now not to sell their fruit and Veg delivery business. "everyone needs to eat and people will shop around" He still has it for sale. I think he is attracted to that 60k lump sum. But there's nothing left for tomorrow. I have thought perhaps I might run it from my place, but a mate should try harder to convince him not to sell. Perhaps "CanOz" I should show him your post.

I used to be in the home hairdressing industry and I am approached on a daily basis by former clients who simply cannot afford salon prices any more. Rents, wages, super, operating costs and increased product costs and taxes have to be passed on to clients. I presume there are other industry related occup ns facing similar issues.Seamisty

We are in the middle of setting up a hairdressing salon from home. My wife wanted to learn hairdressing then changed to massage. I convinced her to do hairdressing for exactly the reason of this thread. She becomes fully qualified at the end of the year via private coarse 2 years.

Work from home. Overheads can be kept low and there are also the tax deductions.

 

[seamisty]

No, I meant the Western Rock Lobster has always had quotas.

No chops, they have had pot reductions, not quotas but I believe it is a strong possibility in the near future. SA southern rock lobster is on quotas and that works well I think.Here is a recent article::::WA lobster fishers considering change to catch limits

Wednesday, 29/10/2008

The Western Australian rock lobster fishery is once again reconsidering moving from a pot to a quota system.

The issue has been raised and dismissed in the past, but with lobster numbers predicted to fall over the next few years, many fishermen say it's time to revisit the idea.

Pot numbers have been cut by almost a third, following research which indicates the annual lobster catch is predicted to fall from around 11,000 tonnes to just over 5000 tonnes within three years.

Opponents of the quota system say it will lead to an increase in the price per pot, making it too expensive for smaller fishers to buy more pots.

But those in favour of the system say quotas allow smaller fishers to remain viable.

 

[nunthewiser]

From the Geraldton Guardian


Meeting aims to stop fishing industry rumours

14th November 2008, 15:15 WST





Fishermen worried about the rumours and innuendo surrounding changes to the industry this year are encouraged to attend a meeting at Geraldton Golf Club on Sunday, November 16.

The meeting, hosted by members of the United Midwest Fishers Association, will offer a chance for UMFA members to dispel the rumours around town about legal action against the decision to impose a 15 per cent pot reduction on lobster fishermen, which was announced by Fisheries Minister Norman Moore late last month.

“There have been rumours going around that fishermen have paid up to $50,000 for legal advice, which is not true,” UMFA president Peter Burton said.

“My phone hasn’t stopped ringing about this, we only just got legal advice yesterday morning.

"We decided the best way to bring fishermen up to date on what’s happening was an information meeting.

“We just want them to know that we are actively trying to get this further 15 per cent reduction overturned and there is hope."

Mr Burton said if the attendance on Sunday was not high enough, the association would have to rethink its strategy but it would not give up on the cause.

Mr Burton said he and others believed that the information given to Mr Moore about the zero purelus count this year was premature.

“I was president from 1995 to 2002. One of the reasons I’m back in the position now is because my livelihood is jeopardised with an extra 30 per cent reduction; I won’t be fishing next year,” he said.

Mr Burton pointed out the stacks of lobster pots in his shed, almost 200 of them, as well as ropes and buoys covering the walls.

He said many of the pots would go unused this year, but they would still cost him money.

“All of these pots are supposed to be in the water, plus an extra 50," he said.

"I have 186 pots on my licence. On Saturday I will be allowed to pull 123 of them.

"On December 1 I will only be allowed to pull 100. I have to pay for a licence of 186 to pull 100 pots.

“We also lease a lot of pots. What I pay in lease and licensing fees is around the best part of $120,000 and that’s before I even go to work this year."

The meeting starts at 4pm on Sunday and all fishermen are welcome.

MEGAN BAILEY

 

[seamisty]

Nunthewiser I am not invoved in this particular fishery but sometimes it can be just as big a financial burden working those pots and catching very little and possibly totally destroying the remaining stock recruitment in the process. This is only my opinion but I would prefer to give the fishery a chance to recover for future sustainability. However, this fishery affects a lot of people and there will always be controversy over management. I am interested to see the outcome. Seamisty

 

[nunthewiser]

Nunthewiser I am not invoved in this particular fishery but sometimes it can be just as big a financial burden working those pots and catching very little and possibly totally destroying the remaining stock recruitment in the process. This is only my opinion but I would prefer to give the fishery a chance to recover for future sustainability. However, this fishery affects a lot of people and there will always be controversy over management. I am interested to see the outcome. Seamisty

Yep the days of the crayfishermans sons having the newest clubsport each year in geraldton are long gone . A lot of the "old" crew up there have changed/merged/soldup and a new breed has entered , dont get me wrong in geraldton MANY of the old fishing familiys still out there making a living but the catches sure have changed.

i am not involved in the fishing industry but have been in the past and still in contact with many in that path up there

just on a side note , many these days are having to go a LOT further for there catches too in the midwest namely" big bank" which is in some mighty trecherous waters where a few of the local crew with family will not go because money isnt everything

only talking of local knowledge cant really call it as undisputed facts as many up there go to "big bank" make a motza and still buying a new clubsport

but the local reefs INCLUDING the abrolous island fishing grounds have seen its best days and are no longer the rich productive grounds they once were

 

[Naked shorts]

debt collector

 

[Pager]

Traders have recession proof incomes/business,s

As long as you trade both long and short have a robust system then as long as the market your trading moves you should do ok

Maybe those trading Aussie stocks arnt too happy with the short selling ban in place but Futures and FX traders just to name 2 would be business as usual.

I'm a futures trader and if anything the higher volatility although giving me a lower win rate has actually increased my bottom line.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Soup kitchen owner.

 

[sam76]

debt collector

You know what dude, I've spent the last week doing that for a process company here.

It is pretty scary.

 

[Mofra]

Government jobs, and any occupation with a niche skills shortage

 

[Ageo]

Centrelink? my brother inlaw always says his job is in high demand during tough economic times.... Perhaps alot of people needing government assistance?

 

[MrBurns]

Psychiatrists, their patients don't die or get better.

 

[chops_a_must]

Psychiatrists, their patients don't die or get better.

Ha ha...

Quality.

 

[Agentm]

prostitution has always stood up to the test of time..

my view its always got something going up..

 

[nunthewiser]

prostitution has always stood up to the test of time..

my view its always got something going up..

This avenue has already been explored , i am currently looking for employees on a contract basis .

please contact a.nun for further details

 

[Naked shorts]

You know what dude, I've spent the last week doing that for a process company here.

It is pretty scary.

I don't know how you could do it... but I guess you would learn a few thing on how to avoid going into debt?

 

[tayser]

Technology jobs in the finance sector are likely to be ok somewhat: all these people the banks are going to sack will need to be replaced with something: middle management jobs and tasks can be replaced with IS solutions in many cases and technology is where banks make big savings. Might not be contract work out there, but permanent jobs (in Melbourne at least) are still quite healthy in that sector.

 

[son of baglimit]

im amazed it took 30 posts for the obvious to appear.

well done mofra - public service.

it is never ever gonna be the most interesting job, the most career defining, but when the **** hits the fan, youll have a job, youll have income, and true its aint a lot, and never will be, but its basically guaranteed.

and it can be a good place to finish a career (becoming 60 that is) as the payout can be beneficial.

 

[MR.]

im amazed it took 30 posts for the obvious to appear.

well done mofra - public service.

it is never ever gonna be the most interesting job, the most career defining, but when the **** hits the fan, youll have a job, youll have income, and true its aint a lot, and never will be, but its basically guaranteed.

and it can be a good place to finish a career (becoming 60 that is) as the payout can be beneficial.

What? Maybe I "am" greedy. But the thread is "What jobs are recession proof" and the public service would be recession proof.

 

[numbercruncher]

Im not sure the public service as a whole - I think the Government is going to be forced to take to it with a meat axe if this recession gets juicy enough !

But Emergency services and Essential services would certainly be recession proof ..