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Have a look at the video I posted above. /QUOTE]
I looked at it before I posted a response to your original post. Quite honestly, nothing in that video upsets me. It's no different than the pork, chicken, lamb and other meats and fish I eat.
Apparently a cow is dumb so it's OK to eat it? A roo is a pest, so it's OK to kill them? It's OK to shoot a duck with a shotgun? I just cannot see how killing a whale for consumption is any different.
I still don't understand how you fail to understand that within this thread most people will agree that the japanese do this for consumption as opposed to research. It doesn't matter though. They have found a way to do this legally.
I don't understand how you cannot understand the repeated points about the legal claims we have to these waters. You seem to just constantly ignore these very valid claims. As if they don't mean anything?
I can appreciate you're passionate about this. Though I cannot understand your blindness to the many other factors that are related to this issue.
At the end of the day, this is not just about a whale being killed. May I suggest you research the coorong in SA, the migratory birds from all over the world who use these vital eco systems, and our governments failure to do anything about the problem there. What I'm implying is that before we go and try to save the world, perhaps we should look in our own back yard before we start supporting vigilanty style acts against a government.
The difference is it is illegal to kill a whale strictly for consumption (unless it is thoroughly "researched" first to make sure it is dead and up to Japanese "sashimi" standards).Apparently a cow is dumb so it's OK to eat it? A roo is a pest, so it's OK to kill them? It's OK to shoot a duck with a shotgun? I just cannot see how killing a whale for consumption is any different.
I don't understand how you cannot understand the repeated points about the legal claims we have to these waters. You seem to just constantly ignore these very valid claims. As if they don't mean anything?
The difference is it is illegal to kill a whale strictly for consumption (unless it is thoroughly "researched" first to make sure it is dead and up to Japanese "sashimi" standards).
Macquack so if they passed the law that allowed the japs to harvest whales for consumption would your anger and frustration be over?
or would it then lead to the ethical & humane methods of killing?
then if they satisfied your humane killing methods would you be fine with it?
or would it lead to the gender and age of whales being harvested?
etc...............
The point being no matter what they do you will never be happy because your only thinking about what you care/want which is "Save the Whales".
How come cockroaches dont have the anti brigade by their side? poor bastards.
The difference is it is illegal to kill a whale strictly for consumption .
Macquack so if they passed the law that allowed the japs to harvest whales for consumption would your anger and frustration be over?
or would it then lead to the ethical & humane methods of killing?
then if they satisfied your humane killing methods would you be fine with it?
or would it lead to the gender and age of whales being harvested?
etc...............
The point being no matter what they do you will never be happy because your only thinking about what you care/want which is "Save the Whales".
How come cockroaches dont have the anti brigade by their side? poor bastards.
There is NO law that makes killing a whale illegal.
The point being no matter what they do you will never be happy because your only thinking about what you care/want which is "Save the Whales".
The international ban may not be a law as such, but there are consequences if a country does not conform to the convention.
Would you mind providing evidence of the bolded statement, please, Macquack? As far as I am aware (and I'll admit I dont know much of the specifics), the IWC has no ability to penalise members. Therefore there would be no consequences.
Would you mind providing evidence of the bolded statement, please, Macquack? As far as I am aware (and I'll admit I dont know much of the specifics), the IWC has no ability to penalise members. Therefore there would be no consequences.
Ageo, when are you going to get the concept that it is the international community being 84 member countries of the International Whaling Commission that are "saving the whales". It is not just IFocus, the Sea Sherpherd and myself "flying the flag".
The difference is it is illegal to kill a whale strictly for consumption (unless it is thoroughly "researched" first to make sure it is dead and up to Japanese "sashimi" standards).
I am against Japanese whaling in any waters where they conduct their "scientific research". If it happens to be in Australian waters (which our Government claims), I expect the Government to do something about it as promised.
Using that same thought process macquack (a majority rules), why is it then that you cannot accept or fail to realise that australia claiming these waters as our own is a ridiculous arrogant claim when 99% of the rest of the world does not recognise this claim.
It does not seem fair dinkum that you use this very same logic to advance your thoughts but dismiss it when it does not suite you.
Fair enough. I wonder why Japan simply doesnt pull out of the treaty then. That way they could just do their whaling without the pretence of doing it for science. I guess they must have some agenda for staying in IWC. Wonder if the US pressures them to stay in the IWC so that the Japanese are given continued access to US waters for fishing (and the US hopes to stop them whaling that way)?
The skipper(?) of the Andy Gil has been arrested here today.
US sushi chef charged with serving whale
Hope you don't apply this logic to the markets
Logic? in this thread there is no logic, just emotional responses to how they feel about something.
In a sushi-train restaurant in Tokyo this week, Osamu Morita, 38, a banker, seemed bemused by the fuss. ''When the tuna is all gone we can find something else to eat. There are plenty of delicious creatures in the sea.''
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