Whale wars

[Macquack]

what is it that frustrates people about whaling?

Hello????. Commercial whaling is BANNED.

Even those Japanese f*ckers half play along with the International Whaling Commissions moratorium on commercial whaling by "claiming" that their whale slaughter is purely for "scientific research".

Ageo, do you see why some people are "frustrated" at the Japanese. It is because the Japanese are not playing 'fair and square' by the rules.

 

[gordon2007]

'fair and square' by the rules.

Mac, the very same emotion you have, this very same view, is the same emotion and same view people share about captain quackhead. Can you honestly say these anti whalers are playing fair and by the rules?

This is, my friend, the whole point of this thread. Why is it OK for this anti whaling group to break laws but not OK for the japanese to break laws?

 

[Calliope]

Mac, the very same emotion you have, this very same view, is the same emotion and same view people share about captain quackhead. Can you honestly say these anti whalers are playing fair and by the rules?

This is, my friend, the whole point of this thread. Why is it OK for this anti whaling group to break laws but not OK for the japanese to break laws?

These are questions that Macquack cannot answer except on ideologist grounds.

Activist groups like the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society claim that Japan's whaling practices violate international law. Japan claims the direct-action tactics of Sea Shepherd are illegal, in essence a form of eco-terrorism.

Notwithstanding a 2008 Australian Federal Court ruling that Japan’s actions were illegal under Australian law, the Japanese have defied the court orders insisting that as they do not recognize Australia’s Antarctic claim, they are not bound to respect Australian law. The Rudd government, not wanting to risk a challenge to Australian sovereignty over Antarctica, has not actively pursued enforcement of these court orders.

 

[Ageo]

Hello????. Commercial whaling is BANNED.

So basically your getting so hysterical because a foreign country is breaking the law???????

Ill say it again what is it that frustrates people about whaling?

 

[nioka]

Ill say it again what is it that frustrates people about whaling?

I get frustrated with the fact that I can't start up a whaling station again in Australia although I'm working on starting for one in a Pacific Island.

 

[gordon2007]

I'm working on starting for one in a Pacific Island.

That sounds really interesting! I'm quite intrigued to know how one goes about starting up a whaling station. In fact, I'm not even sure what a whaling station is, but sure does sound interesting.

 

[nioka]

That sounds really interesting! I'm quite intrigued to know how one goes about starting up a whaling station. In fact, I'm not even sure what a whaling station is, but sure does sound interesting.

In the 50's I was engaged by the Tongans to design a shore based station. The station was designed to catch approximately 50 whales per year with the idea being a a supply of whale meat for around 4 to 5 months each year. Also to give employment for six months each year to around 20 people.

I also had a job advising W.R. Carpenter in FIJI regards starting up there and also one advising the administration of the Cook Islands on the whaling potential.

These 3 jobs fell through when Onassis disregarded the whaling agreement and the whale numbers were drastically reduced.

Whaling would not be illegal. Actually whaling nations agreed on a moratorium in order that the whale numbers were allowed to recover. The numbers of some species have recovered.

The engineering details and the technical know is still in my head ( a lot still on paper) so I have a start on anyone else.

 

[Macquack]

Mac, the very same emotion you have, this very same view, is the same emotion and same view people share about captain quackhead. Can you honestly say these anti whalers are playing fair and by the rules?

This is, my friend, the whole point of this thread. Why is it OK for this anti whaling group to break laws but not OK for the japanese to break laws?

You don't have to be pro the "Sea Shepherd" to be anti Japanese whaling.

I can understand the anti "Sea Shepherd" position but I can't understand the pro Japanese whaling stance.

 

[Macquack]

So basically your getting so hysterical because a foreign country is breaking the law???????

Ill say it again what is it that frustrates people about whaling?

Mate, you say you "love fishing". I assume your catches comply with the relevant 'bag and size' LIMITS of your particular state fisheries authority.

Well, guess what? If you are Japanese, those 'bag and size' limits mean 'f*ck all' and only apply to those fools who bother to comply with the rules.

Ageo, are you getting the picture why I may be getting "frustrated" but not "hysterical".

 

[IFocus]

So ripping the fish's throat to reel him in is more humane than killing a whale humanely?

lolol P.S i love fishing but im trying to understand the (whale protesters point of view). Is it the killing? what is it that frustrates people about whaling?

Read the thread from the start, there are a whole range of reasons not least the disconnected people who just don't get the fact that the environment generally is going down the tubes.

 

[Calliope]

Mate...
Well, guess what? If you are Japanese, those 'bag and size' limits mean 'f*ck all' and only apply to those fools who bother to comply with the rules.

Ageo, are you getting the picture why I may be getting "frustrated" but not "hysterical".

Do you blame your gutter language on on being "frustrated' or "hysterical"?

And y'know something? You are starting to talk like Mr Rudd.

 

[Macquack]

Calliope, have a look at this "bloody" video.



Scientific research of whales, my ar*e.

Here is a novel suggestion for the Japanese - How about coming up with a non-lethal method of "scientific research".

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

You don't have to be pro the "Sea Shepherd" to be anti Japanese whaling.

I can understand the anti "Sea Shepherd" position but I can't understand the pro Japanese whaling stance.

I find both CgradeShepherds and the Jap whalers equally objectionable and seeing them both beating the beejasus out of each other warms my Machiavellian heart.

Read the thread from the start, there are a whole range of reasons not least the disconnected people who just don't get the fact that the environment generally is going down the tubes.

I doubt if anyone on this forum doubts that the environment is important and deserving of protection. The main difference lies between maudling basket weaving greens and people like me who demand rigid science and reasonably economic solutions.

gg

 

[Calliope]

Calliope, have a look at this "bloody" video.

Scientific research of whales, my ar*e.

I'm afraid I don't share you warm fuzzy feelings about whales or fruit bats.

As for "scientific research"; who gives a damn? It's certainly none of your business or mine.

Well, guess what? If you are Japanese, those 'bag and size' limits mean 'f*ck all' and only apply to those fools who bother to comply with the rules.

Seeing you are a stickler for rules, I draw your attention to the ASF Code of Conduct para 3;

"Obscene language... is strictly forbidden and will not be tolerated".

 

[Macquack]

Seeing you are a stickler for rules, I draw your attention to the ASF Code of Conduct para 3;

"Obscene language... is strictly forbidden and will not be tolerated".

I am adopting the Japanese culture of ignoring any rules that don't suit me and to hell with anyone who questions my actions.

 

[Calliope]

I am adopting the Japanese culture of ignoring any rules that don't suit me and to hell with anyone who questions my actions.

Now that's the real Macquack. Spoken like a true Greenie and eco-terrorist. Watson would be proud of you.

 

[Macquack]

I think you mean the captain of the "Yashin Maru" would be proud.

Just remember Calliope, when the Sea Shepherd crew disengages from pursuing the Japanese whaling fleet, the Japanese whalers are still in contravention of the commercial whaling ban.

 

[IFocus]

I doubt if anyone on this forum doubts that the environment is important and deserving of protection. The main difference lies between maudling basket weaving greens and people like me who demand rigid science and reasonably economic solutions.

gg

Demand what from who.............populist governments your are surely joking.......maybe the business world will look after it hilarious, no more like Nero fiddling around making up excuses while Rome burns I think.

 

[gordon2007]

the Japanese whalers are still in contravention of the commercial whaling ban.[/B]

You're wrong. What they are doing is legal. Morally right, that depends on ones own beliefs. But legally, they are within their rights, hence the term 'legal loophole'.

 

[Macquack]

You're wrong. What they are doing is legal. Morally right, that depends on ones own beliefs. But legally, they are within their rights, hence the term 'legal loophole'.

Have a look at the video I posted above. What's "ones own beliefs" got to do with it, it is blatantly obvious this is not "scientific research".