Saddam had WMD and used them.. do you disagree with tha R Toms 20/20.. Saddam had 11 years (that the US gave him)to come clean and messed around the UN weapons inspectors for 11 years.. do you disagree with that R Toms 20/20... the only way to ever be sure that WMD were no more is when a marine has walked over that ground... Saddam even had 48 hrs to leave office and avoid an invasion but did not..
D Lama doesn't have much choice when stareing down the gun barrel of the Chinese communist party...
But the IOC did have a choice ... and now so do the athletes...
course he had WMDSaddam had WMD and used them.. do you disagree with tha R Toms 20/20.. Saddam had 11 years (that the US gave him)to come clean and messed around the UN weapons inspectors for 11 years.. do you disagree
No reply ?
No reply necessary Superfly because we know that it is propaganda.
As I said before, it is time to wake up from your American world domination fantasies. Stop making new threads about it please.
course he had WMD
we still have the receipts !
Juw.. listen.. this is the west... not one of your communist party chat rooms or meetings... it's ok for u to call me a neo-con.....people can start threads as they please within the rules, just because u may not like the content, does not mean it will not be posted. This is not a communist state ( as much u may want it to be ).
well who do you think sold the original weapons to him ?So now it's all a joke, when faced with what really happened...
Whether you like it or not it was a contrived filthy lie...
China to meet Dalai Lama envoys: reports
Posted 2 hours 52 minutes ago
Updated 1 hour 53 minutes ago
Chinese officials will meet representatives of the Dalai Lama, a state-run Xinhua news agency has reported, citing official sources.
The Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism, who fled into exile after a failed 1959 uprising against Communist rule.
China denounces the Dalai Lama as a traitor and blames him for a recent wave of unrest that swept through Tibet.
But since the anti-government unrest began in March China has been under pressure to resume dialogue with his envoys.
"In view of the requests repeatedly made by the Dalai side for resuming talks, the relevant department of the Central Government will have contact and consultation with Dalai's private representative in the coming days," Xinhua quoted an official as saying.
"It is hoped that through contact and consultation, the Dalai side will take credible moves to stop activities aimed at splitting China, stop plotting and inciting violence and stop disrupting and sabotaging the Beijing Olympic Games so as to create conditions for talks."
A spokesman for the Dalai Lama, who lives in exile in India, said he had not received any communication from China about a meeting.
However the spokesman said the Dalai Lama welcomed Beijing's offer as 'a step in the right direction'.
"Only face-to-face meetings can lead to a resolution of the Tibetan issue," he said.
"His holiness, since March 10 when the (anti-Chinese) protests started, he had been making all efforts to reach out to China and the Chinese Government and he hopes the Tibetan issue can be resolved only through dialogue."
China slams Dalai Lama ahead of talks
Posted 9 minutes ago
China has kept up a barrage of criticism against the Dalai Lama, even as two of his envoys were set to arrive for talks on unrest in Tibet that has marred the run-up to the Olympics.
Chinese state media carried no reference to the much-anticipated meetings, instead accusing Tibet's spiritual leader of seeking to sabotage the Beijing Games in August.
The Tibet Daily warned against the "Dalai clique", a loosely defined term referring to people close to the Tibetan leader-in-exile.
"As long as the Dalai clique still exists, our struggle with the Dalai clique will not stop. We must raise our vigilance and absolutely cannot relax," the newspaper said Saturday (local time).
Beijing last month offered to reopen dialogue, a move widely seen as a response to global pressure over China's crackdown on unrest in Tibet.
Protests against the March crackdown have targeted the Olympic torch relay on its worldwide journey, particularly in London and Paris, angering Beijing and provoking anti-Western sentiment among Chinese.
The envoys, Lodi Gyaltsen Gyari and Kelsang Gyaltsen, have arrived in Hong Kong en route to mainland China for the talks, a spokesman for the Tibetan government-in-exile in the Indian town of Dharamshala said Friday.
"During this brief visit, the envoys will take up the urgent issue of the current crisis in the Tibetan areas," Thubten Samphel told AFP.
"The envoys will raise the issue of moving forward on the process for a mutually satisfactory solution to the Tibetan issue."
Amid intense interest, exiled Tibetan leaders have sought to play down expectations, saying the talks were not even on a par with six earlier rounds of dialogue that started in late 2002 and broke off in 2007.
"It is not the seventh round of talks," Tibetan Prime Minister-in-exile Samdhong Rinpoche said.
"It is only an informal consultation."
Details of the talks, including their time and location, have not been released by either side.
A spokesman for the Dalai Lama's office in Dharamshala said the talks were unlikely to be held in Beijing but refused to say more. Chinese officials were not available for comment.
However, state media continued their attacks on the Dalai Lama, quoting a member of a government advisory board on Tibet saying he was targeting the Olympics for sabotage.
The Tibetan government-in-exile says 203 people were killed and some 1,000 hurt in the unrest and crackdown.
At least 5,715 people have been arrested since the protests began, according to figures, which the Government says have been extensively cross-checked.
China said 20 people had been killed by Tibetan rioters until Monday, when state media for the first time said police shot dead a Tibetan pro-independence "insurgent".
Chinese troops invaded Tibet in 1950 and officially annexed the region a year later.
The Dalai Lama, who fled his homeland following the 1959 uprising, has repeatedly accused China of widespread rights violations there.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/03/2234504.htm?section=justin
Himalayan snowfall hits Everest torch bid
Posted 1 hour 19 minutes ago
China's bold plan to take a special Olympic torch to the top of Mount Everest has faced a possible setback, as snow fell on the world's highest mountain.
The climbing team has been at 6,500 metres in advanced base camp or higher for at least two days, waiting for better weather to take the flame to the 8,848-metre peak and claim the crowning moment of a relay that was marred by anti-China protests on its round-the-world journey.
"It's normal to have snow in mountain areas," said Suonam Cuomu, deputy director of the Everest torch logistics department.
"We are very well-prepared. It's not necessarily bad news because after snow there is often a few days of good weather.
"But the heavy snow will have an effect on route building in the mountains," she told a media briefing.
Officials said they were unaware of conditions on Everest as they were still awaiting data from the meteorological centre.
"In my experience, in heavy snow you could make a decision to retreat or abandon, but I don't know the conditions up the mountain so it's difficult to say," Beijing organising committee consultant Liu Jian said.
"For mountaineers, the snow we can see down here is not that heavy."
Mr Liu has climbed the highest mountain on each of the seven continents and reached the north and south poles. etc
How impressive that Mr Liu has scaled the dizzy heights of Kosciusko. (assuming that and not Carstenz Pyramid in Irian Jaya, "Tectonically speaking on the same continental plate as Australia"Mr Liu has climbed the highest mountain on each of the seven continents and reached the north and south poles.
Have a look at the jpeg to see a truly terrifying climbing challengeMount Kosciusko,is the highest mountain in Kosciusko National Park, the highest mountain in New South Wales, the highest mountain in the Snowy Mountains, and is the highest mountain in Australia.
It is not however, the highest mountain on Australian Territory. This honour belongs to Mawson Peak with a height of 2745 meters , being the highest summit of "Big Ben" on Heard Island in the Australian sub Antarctic territory of Heard & McDonald Islands.
Mt Kosciusko is part of the Great Dividing Range which straddles the state boundaries of Victoria and New South Wales in the immediate vicinity of the mountain, and then forms a chain stretching north all the way into tropical far-north Queensland. Mount Kosciusko is located half-way (280 miles/450km from each) between Sydney and Melbourne in Southeastern Australia. etc
From ABC, 6 May. 08
CHINA VIRUS DEATH TOLL RISES
By Radio National's Sonja Heydeman
The death toll in China from a virus that preys on children has risen to 26, as the government presses on with its efforts to rein in the outbreak.
State media is reporting the number of people infected by the outbreak of a deadly viral disease in China has risen to almost 9,000, while 26 children have died from the hand, foot and mouth disease, most of them in the eastern province of Anhui.
EV71, which can cause hand, foot and mouth disease, is highly contagious and spreads through direct contact with the mucus, saliva or faeces of an infected person.
The World Health Organisation's Peter Cordingly has told Radio Australia's Connect Asia program in its worst form, the virus results in death.
"The virus normally will infect the child for eight to 10 days - it starts off with things like a rash on the hand and blisters and ulcers in the mouth, and then it just cures itself and goes away," he said.
"But in some cases it attacks the brain - we're not quite sure why this is happening in China at the moment - and then we see all kinds of complications that quite routinely finish in a fatality," he said.
Young children are most at risk because of lower immune systems.
A task force headed by the health minister has also been established to liaise with local level health officials on control efforts.
China's nationwide alert has involved closing kindergartens and sending officials to visit nurseries and primary schools and starting to educate staff on hygiene and prevention.
The Ministry of Health has warned that cases of hand, foot and mouth disease could increase with June and July typically being the peak months for the spread.
Beijing will host the Olympics in August, but Mr Cordingley say EV71 concerns should not deter travellers to the games.
"We don't see this as having any affect at all on travel to Beijing, or any impact upon the Olympics," he said.
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