Yeah, love 80's music. Chris D B sucked though..I like it a little louder. More like Metallica, Van Halen and Ozzy (most people here wouldn't know these bands). I just play my guitar to chill. I know I should just kick it back..just erks me that there is no logical reasoning to some comments. I know that noone here would really vote for the L word..they just stir, and I give it back..it's in my hard rock nature to.
...How much money do you think you will get back via an orderly windup with an independant administrator once all the associated costs involved have been deducted? .... Some of the 'positive people' I know have been quietly working behind the scenes investigating other alternatives, some even getting legal advice at their own expense, and have still came to the same conclusion, listing on the NSX is nowhere near as financially detrimental as liquidation, orderly or otherwise. Regards, Seamisty
If all of the 50M was given as a special distribution it would equate to about 0.65 of a cent per unit (or $650 for every $100,000)
Boots
No to both your qustains What the offer & bid on the exchange has got nothing to do what a unit is realy worth Units are realy only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for them In other words they could be valured at say 60 cents but if buyers are only willing to pay 40 cents say that is only what they are worth //////////What happens after the fund is listed on the NSX for xxx amount.
If down the track it is put into recievership and liquidated with a orderly wind up.
Will the unit price be still a $1 or will it be the listed price that we get a percentage off.
DoraNBoots only the SF component of any cash the PIF gets will be distributed and my understanding is that has to by law as the SF was put in place to cover any short fall in distributions. So I am no expert but I would imagine that less than 1/4 of any money recieved would constitute the SF share. JH is not giving that to unit holders out of kindness, she is legally obliged to. Regards, Seamisty
If we as investors own the fund....then why can't we have access to ALL the paperwork? .......maybe then we could run it ourselves and save a fortune....is this possible?
Some folk are sure easley lead and get sucked in They are the ones that snake oil sales people love Of cause your not on of them are you Javis ???????????????
This is from the Gold Coast Bulletin Aug 9th. I have highlighted the relative PIF bit.
Nick Nichols
August 9th, 2008
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The Premium Income Fund has already indicated it will accept the payout offer, ...
I’m sorry but I find it hard to swallow that the ‘press’ keep getting this wrong.
We’ve already seen the believers justify the octavia deal saying it’s better than nothing. Spare us any more of this nonsense. JH and SC have had their game of tiggy and are sitting at the ends of the earth right now laughing at you people. Do ya think NAB took 22.5 cents in the dollar for the $40 million they were paid out this week? Let’s see what the 20 largest noteholders come up with. Here’s hoping they don’t negotiate a deal, you can bet it won’t be 22.5 cents in the dollar. Our only chance of a decent deal now is if the noteholders put OCV into administration.
Hmmmm. My Warning-Danger gene is in overdrive today. I see conspiracy everywhere.
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Duped
It will be interesting to see what happens on 18 th Aug on the Gold Coast.
There is something about the number 18.
Regards
Splitpin
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When's the deadline for PIF to accept the OOCV offer? All the docs merely say a 'similar offer' has been put to PIF. So, when's the deadline? I ask because this morning I'm suspicious the whole WC thing is a decoy. (Maybe I inhaled too much of the sealant I was painting with on the weekend.) Is it before our vote on 18 September?
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Thank Dora for all that info I got the same story when i spock to them too Its Bloody awlful to say the least Once WC gets the vote 75% there is not much we can do If you try to sell your units on the NSX any time in the furture you will get nothing for them Believe me i know i buy & sell shares Not on the NSX but the ASX i would not touch the NSX with a 1000 FT poll But dont take my word for it ask any leading stockbrooker or share trader what they think of the NSX WC could loose the vote for being so pig headed over this GD ////////Timeline
- WC’s original date for vote was August
- PTQ went to court to wind up OCV July 24 and 25, but JH and CS stopped that.
- OCV’s original deadline for Creditor offer Aug 11
- Creditor offer deadline extended to Aug 29th because most (big) creditors want more time to negotiate (but not JH!)
- PTQ (or new trustee?) going to court to wind up OCV Sept 9 and 10
- WC’s vote changed to Sept 18
I spoke with WC hotline yesterday and was told the NSX is the only exit option in the short term apart from the off market transfer option which is available right now if you can organise it. When asked if redemptions can be started up again when the fund is stable and brining in money again the answer was that it won’t be that kind of fund – redemptions will be removed from the constitution all together in the Sept vote.
When asked why we won’t be given the option for a moratorium the answer (when you cut thought the spiel) is that WC aren’t interested in that option. What happened to give priority to the members’ interests! And don’t tell me we aren’t interested – we've basically been told this is not an option and haven't been given any info on this to enable us to decide.
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