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Wellington Capital PIF/Octaviar (MFS) PIF

Does it mean that when in the past I was naive enough to telephone the WC "help line", I wasn't connected to a well-briefed rep but to a "counsellor"? Possibly, that explains the vacuous nature of any information elicited.
 
Marcom, How is any distribution from Bentleys to be treated by Wellington. Does it go into the fund for expenses etc? If a distribution is made will this be counted towards previous distribution of two cents and if sufficient to make the grand total to three cents will this be treated as a return of capital like the rest? Therefore, can Wellington then commence to charge the .07% fee. If so where is the justification for that? Greatful for an explanation.

Rest assured Charles she will do everything she can to pilfer our money!!!!
 
Just sent the following email to Adam Hoey at Bentleys Brisbane office:

Hello Adam

Just enquiring if the payments to Octaviar creditors has/will occur as promised by today? Any update on when the statements of claim will be served on Octaviar directors and others?

Cheers
Robert Axam
Premium Income Fund investor

I'll post his reply when it is received.

Here's the reply:

Dear Marcom

I refer to your email earlier today regarding Octaviar.

Mr William J Fletcher and Ms Katherine E Barnet were appointed Joint and Several Liquidators of Octaviar Limited (Receivers and Managers Appointed) (In Liquidation) (OL) on 9 September 2009 and subsequently over other entities within the Octaviar Group. The Administrators of the group, Deloitte, issued a declaration stating that there is no likelihood that shareholders will receive any distribution on their shares. This form can be found on our website.

Please note however that the investment described in your email below relates to the Premium Income Fund, a fund now under the control of Wellington Capital. For further information on your investment, please refer to www.wellcap.com.au.

If there is any other way I can assist, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,

Adam Hoey
Accountant Corporate Recovery

I guess he didn't want to answer the question.
 
Rest assured Charles she will do everything she can to pilfer our money!!!!

Another urgent submission is needed to be sent to the Court for payment treatment determination by a Justice who knows his Book of Justice inside out.
I wonder if Bentlery's as official liquidators have an authority to give a
determination to release payment direct to PIF holders of which WC is just one.
among many.
Surely there are guidelines for Liquidators on a duty like this.
I can't do research, perhaps we can look into it closer.
Regards,
 
Perhaps, like me, he watched Yes Minister on the weekend. It's back on TV for a new generation of fans

I'll look forward to watching Yes Minister - nothing has changed. Remember the episode about the hospital that won the award for efficiency when they had no patients - what a hoot, trouble is is was based on fact!
 
With the pigs firmly stuck in the trough.
I often wonder where ASIC our corporate regulator is. I wonder how Bill shorten and his labor cohorts feel having full knowledge of how Wellington have treated us.

I anxiously await the day that JH and everyone that have done their bit to steal part of our lives learn what the meaning of justice is.
 
At about the same period as 'Yes Minister' was first screened, SBS ran a brilliant Italian drama series of a very different genre. 'Octopus' showed the workings of the Mafia in Sicily and how Italian politicians of the highest order were heavily involved in all kinds of criminal activity. The overall message was 'don't trust the powerful', which is pretty well what the "occupy" movements are saying.

I've just heard a BBC business report describing how hedge funds have found a way of doubling their money by taking advantage of Greece's weakness - confirming that money addicts have no scruples.
 
Maybe we should also have been targeting the taxation dept re reporting WC activities duties regarding regulating/monitoring as I am researching info that there is a whole other scam out there that is using so called legitimate businesses to hide income from not for profit organisations? Maybe also using govt grants? Regular weekend workshops run by current/former Wellington Capital staff employees (many enneagram associated) are charging fees well in excess of the pittance they receive for their few hours of 'counselling' while employed by David Burke on behalf of WC for the PIF. If these activities are all above board then those involved wont have a problem. At least the taxation dept appear more on the ball than ASIC!!
 
At about the same period as 'Yes Minister' was first screened, SBS ran a brilliant Italian drama series of a very different genre. 'Octopus' showed the workings of the Mafia in Sicily and how Italian politicians of the highest order were heavily involved in all kinds of criminal activity. The overall message was 'don't trust the powerful', which is pretty well what the "occupy" movements are saying.

selciper is this the series you mentioned?
Italy / Crime
Playing Time 411:00 minutes over
Content Model: DVD, 2 discs,
Data Stage Line: How it all began, this Disc 2 was originally Octopus (La Piovra 9) that was placed between the Series 7 & 10.
Production: Dutch Filmworks
Director: Giacomo Battiato with Raoul Bova, Anja Kling & Fabrizio Contri
Description:
In this fascinating and exciting episodes of the acclaimed Italian film series La Piovra (The Octopus), we see how the mafia in the 50 years gets a firm grip on the Italian police and politics. Sicilian farmers extortion and put under pressure. Nobody dares to do something. Besides police inspector Carlo Arcutti. In secretly gather evidence against the mafia, which he is aided by his former girlfriend Barbara Altamura, who suspects that her husband, a wealthy banker, dealing with organized crime.
While between Barbara and a romance blossoms Arcutti inspector, the mob gets wind of the investigation and destiny strikes.
Category Image
Source DVD
Language Italian
Subtitles Dutch
Audio Dolby Digital 2.0
 
Marom - Yes indeed, that's the series I was thinking about. If you enter La Piovre into YouTtbe, there's
a short montage.

I found some US guff about Enneagram helping to run businesses efficiently. I notice that the lady pictured is partial to red clothing.

http://www.sandrawalston.com/enneagram/the-business-model/

This one appears to likes black selciper and works for Wellington Capital as??? You guessed it, a part time PIF hotline 'counsellor'!! I used to get Jayana quite often on the WC hotline way back in the beginning. Anyone called the hotline recently?? Competition must be fierce in the enneagram workshop arena, theres not shortage 'training providers' offering retreats, mediation weekends, Colloquiums, reflection days, professional training programmes etc etc etc
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The Color Code and the Enneagram
The Color Code is an interesting personality theory created by Taylor Hartman. It divides personalities into four types, Red, Blue, White, and Yellow.

According to TheColorCode.com:

RED (Motive: POWER)””These are the power wielders. Power, the ability to move from point A to point B, and get things done is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of vision and leadership and generally are responsible, decisive, proactive and assertive.

BLUE (Motive: INTIMACY)””These are the do-gooders. Intimacy, connecting, creating quality relationships and having purpose is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of quality and service and are generally loyal, sincere, and thoughtful.

WHITE (Motive: PEACE)””These are the peacekeepers. Peace, or the absence of conflict, is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of clarity and tolerance and are generally kind, adaptable, good-listeners.

YELLOW (Motive: Fun)””These are the fun lovers. Fun, or the joy of doing something just for the sake of doing it, is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of enthusiasm and optimism and are generally charismatic, spontaneous, and sociable
 
The Color Code and the Enneagram
The Color Code is an interesting personality theory created by Taylor Hartman. It divides personalities into four types, Red, Blue, White, and Yellow.

According to TheColorCode.com:

RED (Motive: POWER)””These are the power wielders. Power, the ability to move from point A to point B, and get things done is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of vision and leadership and generally are responsible, decisive, proactive and assertive.

BLUE (Motive: INTIMACY)””These are the do-gooders. Intimacy, connecting, creating quality relationships and having purpose is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of quality and service and are generally loyal, sincere, and thoughtful.

WHITE (Motive: PEACE)””These are the peacekeepers. Peace, or the absence of conflict, is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of clarity and tolerance and are generally kind, adaptable, good-listeners.

YELLOW (Motive: Fun)””These are the fun lovers. Fun, or the joy of doing something just for the sake of doing it, is what motivates and drives these people. They bring great gifts of enthusiasm and optimism and are generally charismatic, spontaneous, and sociable

Seamisty what colour are you? I know who is "RED"
 
Seamisty what colour are you? I know who is "RED"
charles36 I am a rainbow traveller of no specific colour. I am a totally transparent being who absorbs the colours surrounding me at any given time or place so that I may remain invisible. I can astral travel and read minds and am also receptive of thought projections from others. I have many different personalities which are on call to deal with any given circumstance at any given time. I also have many loyal friends from many different backgrounds and individual beliefs. I am an enigma with an agenda. I hope this answers your question:)
 
charles36 I am a rainbow traveller of no specific colour. I am a totally transparent being who absorbs the colours surrounding me at any given time or place so that I may remain invisible. I can astral travel and read minds and am also receptive of thought projections from others. I have many different personalities which are on call to deal with any given circumstance at any given time. I also have many loyal friends from many different backgrounds and individual beliefs. I am an enigma with an agenda. I hope this answers your question:)
We'll take that as read!! ........... and blue, and indigo, violet etc etc
 
We'll take that as read!! ........... and blue, and indigo, violet etc etc

And then, colours would mean zilch without numbers.
From Riso's Enneagram Part II Nine Personality Types, under Analysing the Unhealthy Three, The Exploitative Opportunist, Page 99:
Failure is one of the most humiliating prospects for Threes. If they continue to overextend themselves and cannot make good on their claims, they will attempt to maintain their inflated self-esteem by exploiting others.
As unhealthy Threes aee it, exploitation of some sort is necessary to continue to protect a superior self-image. Ironically, they have become superior not only to everyone else but also to themselves by overshooting the limits of their talents. Either they must come down to earth and recognize their limitations, or they must take from others to maintain their superiority.

Enough said. Chin up Seamisty, you are up there in the dozens.
Regards
 
EXAM TROUBLE

The founder of the failed Gold Coast financial concern City Pacific, Phil Sullivan, has been resisting a request to appear at an examination by the corporate regulator.

Sullivan last week initiated proceedings in the Federal Court against the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, which was seeking to examine him under Section 19 of the ASIC Act.

The court ordered on Monday - by consent - that the examination ''be deferred to a date to be fixed as directed by the court''. The first directions hearing has been set for November 18. ASIC has the power under Section 19 of the act to question under oath if it ''suspects or believes that a person can give information relevant to a matter that it is investigating''.

ASIC issued Sullivan a notice requiring appearance at an examination on October 4.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/russians-cheer-qantas-grounding-20111101-1mtw6.html#ixzz1cUdHGo2y
 
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