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Wellington Capital PIF/Octaviar (MFS) PIF

Mary, I am truly saddened by your circumstances

The PIFI is fighting, and I can assure you we will continue to do everything in our power to protect the rights of investors such as yourself , who have been forced to sell their units on the NSX for a pittance, to ensure that your rights to the class action are not diminished.

In the meantime please do not give up hope. I am a great believer in alternative therapies if they have been fully researched.

Have included the protocol of Royal Prince Alfred Hospital below :

O'Brien decided cancer treatment facilities should be expanded to a purpose-built cancer centre, probably on the other side of Missenden Road. A million-dollar business plan has been completed and the Federal Government has promised $50 million. More funds are needed.
Says O'Brien: "We don't want to create an ivory tower but we want to create a new way of dealing with the disease. The other thing we want to do is to create a wellness centre, to deal with the psychology of cancer, giving people clinical support and information.
"We would also have a place for alternative therapies. There are so many unanswered questions. There is so much that conventional medicine does not provide. We would create an environment where some of these therapies - herbal treatment and so on - could be studied in a scientific environment and subjected to clinical trials. So many medicines have come from plants and there is no doubt that many people have benefited from them."

Kind Personal Regards Chris
 
They should have paid Jenny 'Not Illegal' Hutson's WC to be a consultant.

Or perhaps PIF is shielded by its link to MFS/Octaviar which is too big/interconnected to be seen/allowed to be examined. Y'know connected to Peacock, KPMG etc. And apparently Deborah Beale. Ex of Bill Shorten, son in law of our GG. Wikipedia tells me Debbie Beale' grandfather was our Ambassador to the US.

There's an interesting mention of a bloke from a "Fortress" in the book $hitstorm. Something about him being the bloke in the US that our diplomats go to? Or something like that. Anyone got a copy? I'll have to get it from the library again to check the reference.

As time passes and more names pop up, it will become possible to produce one of those charts setting out "connections." Little boxes with names, and arrows leading to persons presently not in the frame. Well, that's how it often happens in movies.
 
Some of you probably think. Here goes Duped again on one of his rants. ASIC squatting on crap legislation blah blah blah. Corporations Act aptly named because it protects corporations and not investors blah blah blah. Public Sector conflicted because their super is defined benefit and also because they need to keep $ flowing to raise taxes to pay themselves blah blah blah. ASIC gifted financial advisors a free ride of the Commonwealth brand through the Australian Financial Services License regime blah blah blah.

Well check out the World Bank's latest ranking for Australia:

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/Australia-falls-World-Bank-abc-2160469500.html?x=0

"Australia is the 15th easiest place in the world to do business, a World Bank report has found, but it has fallen five places from last year. ....
But its overall ranking was dragged down by low ratings on ease of paying taxes (53rd), investor protection (65th) and dealing with construction permits (42nd). ..." [emphasis added]

ASIC - that's a big fat Fail for protecting us PIF Mum and Dad investors.

Haha. So perhaps this is why Shorten wants to cut taxes for foreign investors? (It's candy to temp) Because we can transfer more of the foreigners wealth to us by ripping them off than taxing them? Think they'll fall for it? Think they know there's lots of witches in the Hansel and Gretel ginger bread and candy houses in Oz.

Seems to have worked before. How much did the Japanese pay to build the the Cape Schanck Resort? And you much did the RACV pick it up for? My vague recollection was RACV paid about 30% of what it cost the Japanese investors to build.
 
http://www.graysonline.com/sale/700...pment/unreserved-it-equipment-brisbane-pickup

Bentley's is liquidating Octaviar assets through Graysonline. Time to grab a trophy if you missed out on a hat.

I wonder how much Octaviar originally paid for the coffee pot warmer.
What were the Jastek scales used for? To measure the annual reports to check they were heavy enough to impress?

I wouldn't be bidding on the 'Fellows Powershred c-129 Paper shredder'. What's the chance of it having been overworked.
 
http://www.graysonline.com/sale/700...pment/unreserved-it-equipment-brisbane-pickup

Bentley's is liquidating Octaviar assets through Graysonline. Time to grab a trophy if you missed out on a hat.

I wonder how much Octaviar originally paid for the coffee pot warmer.
What were the Jastek scales used for? To measure the annual reports to check they were heavy enough to impress?

I wouldn't be bidding on the 'Fellows Powershred c-129 Paper shredder'. What's the chance of it having been overworked.

Looks like all safes with the loot went to related parties pre-auction!?!?
Bummer, missed again.
 
http://www.nsxa.com.au/ftp/news/021724517.PDF

Well, there we go!!!! Price Waterhouse have resigned as Wellington's auditors .............. guess we all know why!!

New auditors are just across the road....other side of Creek Street from the irresponsible entities offices.
Creek St rings a bell, Creek Street Holdings Pty Ltd HMNN??
I am on a crappy airport computer will do some further research during the next few days. I wonder how many of these big companies like PWC have previously felt compelled to dodge unfavourable reports to the big end of town with the possibility of losing business as a result? I think there could be a shift in the equation, is it possible that supporting the previous big end of town is now causing embarassment to reputable some bussineses ??
 
Creek St rings a bell, Creek Street Holdings Pty Ltd HMNN??
I am on a crappy airport computer will do some further research during the next few days. I wonder how many of these big companies like PWC have previously felt compelled to dodge unfavourable reports to the big end of town with the possibility of losing business as a result? I think there could be a shift in the equation, is it possible that supporting the previous big end of town is now causing embarassment to reputable some bussineses ??

OK Bon voyage (wherever that might be) JH
 
http://www.nsxa.com.au/ftp/news/021724517.PDF

Well, there we go!!!! Price Waterhouse have resigned as Wellington's auditors .............. guess we all know why!!

New auditors are just across the road....other side of Creek Street from the irresponsible entities offices.

Interesting times ahead. We paid , that is all the unit holders, $211,000 for the INCOMPLETE audit by PWC. It is our audit. Wellington are responsible for this debacle. PWC, "We have not been able to obtain sufficient APPROPRIATE audit evidence to provide the basis for an audit opinion. Accordingly we do not express an opinion on the financial report." It appears to my untaught mind that if the law says you shall have the fund audited it is your duty to assist and KEEP APPROPRIATE evidence for an audit. FAILURE which has happened here, either by design or incompetence, is in my opinion negligent, at the very least. The Corporations Act (Cth) deals with such negligence. This brings into question another matter, PWC, very respected auditing firm cannot sign off on the Financial Report but the Directors of Wellington could? Same documents, who is right and who is wrong. I ask this question, the PIF has a Compliance Committee, chaired by a Director who signed off on the Financial Report, who has no doubt reported to the Compliance Auditor (PWC) "Do unit holders have confidence in the management of the Premium Income Fund?" I did not attend any of the meetings held recently by Wellington Capital but one might question the timing of the meeting and the rush to hold such meetings. As the audit report was due to be handed down shortly after the meetings would it not have been more prudent for a competent management team to hold off on the meetings and then give unit holders a chance to question the annual audit report. Of course it would have been but for one reason, the result of the audit was probably predicted and unit holders may have become angry. The reason being the NTA could not be justified and therefore the value of our units would have been diluted yet again. I refer you to the post of SEAMISTY wherein she competently as usual outlines the value of Forest Resort which is for sale. Valued at $26 million, on our books for $41 million, there is a descrepancy of $15 mill. representing a deflated value of your units by approximately another 1.5 cents. By the way you will re call that PWC is not the only auditing firm to give Wellington the "flick" recently.
 
Bearing in mind that several previous employees of MFS/OCV have been involved with Equititrust ,the following articles will be of interest

http://www.smartcompany.com.au/prop...es-of-troubled-property-fund-equititrust.html
ASIC raids offices of troubled property fund Equititrust
Friday, 21 October 2011 09:43
Patrick Stafford
(extracts from above media link)
The Australian Securities and Investments Commission has reportedly raided the offices of fund management group Equititrust, also removing the company's financial services licence
According to a statement released by the company yesterday, statutory accounts and compliance audits were in arrears for the financial year ending June 2011. It also said there was "an absence of a consolidated integrated database across the property assets

http://www.couriermail.com.au/busin...raid-equititrust/story-e6freqmx-1226172406007
 
From the NSX announcement 21 October "Pricewaterhouse Coopers have resigned as auditor from the Premium Income Fund and the Wholesale Premium Income Fund. The appointment of Johnston Rorke remains subject to regulatory approval."

If the appointment of the new auditors is subject to ASIC approval, the resignation of PWC must also be actioned by ASIC. If ASIC let this one through it will prove that there is NO EFFECTIVE COMPANY REGULATION IN AUSTRALIA.

COME ON GREG DO YOUR BLOODY JOB!
 
So familiar it's spooky!
Note 100 shareholder attendance for a $44 billion stake-holding.

Murdoch survives News Corp shareholder vote
Simon Mann
October 22, 2011 - 6:59AM

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/murd...holder-vote-20111022-1md62.html#ixzz1bSyjim3J


HTML:
Rupert Murdoch has thwarted attempts by dissident shareholders to remove him as chairman of News Corporation, the company he has headed for more than five decades.

......attended by about 100 shareholders and their proxies.

"It is fair to say that the company has attracted a certain amount of attention in recent months ... and I wanted to reaffirm the seriousness by which I take what has gone on in London, as well as put that controversy in context of our entire global business... and to share with you my optimism about the potential growth for our profits, our products and our people," he said.

"The story of our company is the stuff of legend – from a small newspaper in Adelaide, to a global corporation based in New York with a market cap of $44 billion ... informing, entertaining and educating at least a billion people each day."

The company was counting votes and was expected to confirm later in the day the vote in favour of board members.

Accusing the company of a “gross lack of independence and poor governance”, Mr Mayne said decisions had been taken that treated shareholders as if they were in “a family-run company”.

“I really think you should get with the program,” Mr Mayne told Mr Murdoch. “It’s time to take the governance high road.”

At several points Mr Murdoch questioned the veracity of Mr Mayne’s statements, saying at one point: “Stephen, I’d hate to call you a liar but I don’t believe you.”

In a comical twist Mr Mayne called for a show of hands among directors who believed that News Corp’s dual class voting system was a good thing. Several had complied, with Mr Mayne inviting a second straw poll before Sir Rod Eddington stepped in: “Stephen, Stephen . .  with all respect: Rupert runs the meeting, not you.”

At times Mr Murdoch struggled to keep the meeting on track and was reminded on a number of occasions by interim counsel Janet Nova on how to proceed. At one point he read rules for asking questions from the floor after several had already been asked.

Regards,
 
I'm afraid that if ASIC fail to act on the PWC matter, Wellington will be gleeful and take a non-intervention in this disturbing matter as a signal to continue doing "business" as usual. And PIF investors will be ever more cynical about the mysterious regulator.
 
I'm afraid that if ASIC fail to act on the PWC matter, Wellington will be gleeful and take a non-intervention in this disturbing matter as a signal to continue doing "business" as usual. And PIF investors will be ever more cynical about the mysterious regulator.

Would you agree Selciper. that such ommissions would, in USA, be dragged before the appropriate Senate Commission quick and smart.
I dread to think of Bernie Madoff's legal team preparations had he been indicted in Australia.
And ASIC's more MYTHICAL, (bragging about its "successes" like Centro), than MYSTICAL.
 
PWC are a well respected Auditing Firm and no doubt staffed and managed by very astute personnel. This company may have the perception that there may be another Class Action in the wind and want no part of any litigation. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that at sometime in the future when the totality of the MFS/Wellington alliance is known that unit holders may see an avenue to further recoup some of their losses. Who knows what the future holds. I only hope we all remain healthy and see some finality to our well intentioned investments to our advantage. The PIFAG are in for the long haul and there to help ALL unit holders, all assistance is appreciated. We have not cocooned ourselves away because of the aborted EGM, far from it. I note that Wellington have not seen the need to call for nominations for the IAC which was supposed to be called every two years from my recollection. As they did such a "WONDERFUL" job you would thinlk their assistance to Wellington and Unit Holders in general, it would be a number one priority. It may well be that Wellington cannot find suitable candidates like the last lot selected. ANY VOLUNTEERS?
 
I note that Wellington have not seen the need to call for nominations for the IAC which was supposed to be called every two years from my recollection. As they did such a "WONDERFUL" job you would thinlk their assistance to Wellington and Unit Holders in general, it would be a number one priority. It may well be that Wellington cannot find suitable candidates like the last lot selected. ANY VOLUNTEERS?
I have no doubt that Charles that we would have no difficulty providing candidates for the IAC. But what is the point in even standing. Wellington refused to publish the voting in the last "election", and for all we know the representatives were figments of somebody's imagination.

However, there is hope. In the last few days we have seen the grisly end of another dictatorship.;)
 
Simgrund, I'm far from being any kind of expert on US law, but from what I've seen and read their judicial system comes down hard on operators who manipulate the vulnerable. After all, shonky American fund managers receive massive prison sentences. Bernie Madoff, had he lived here, might have received five years and a pat on the back for showing remorse and offering co-operation.
 
PWC are a well respected Auditing Firm and no doubt staffed and managed by very astute personnel. This company may have the perception that there may be another Class Action in the wind and want no part of any litigation. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that at sometime in the future when the totality of the MFS/Wellington alliance is known that unit holders may see an avenue to further recoup some of their losses. Who knows what the future holds. I only hope we all remain healthy and see some finality to our well intentioned investments to our advantage. The PIFAG are in for the long haul and there to help ALL unit holders, all assistance is appreciated. We have not cocooned ourselves away because of the aborted EGM, far from it. I note that Wellington have not seen the need to call for nominations for the IAC which was supposed to be called every two years from my recollection. As they did such a "WONDERFUL" job you would thinlk their assistance to Wellington and Unit Holders in general, it would be a number one priority. It may well be that Wellington cannot find suitable candidates like the last lot selected.
ANY VOLUNTEERS?

Thank you charles36 and all in PIFI /AG. These are hearty words.
Further on that with my cent and a quart:
New IAC needs to be able to sleep on WC doorway on the eve of
every IAC - WC legislation prescribed meeting.
I would welcome someone's diligence in producing on these pages
statutory provisions in ASIC or other guidelines for this compliance.
WC commitments to same in their PDS's, Explanatory Memorandums, Jenny in Wonderlands literature are indecently inoperative.

We must continue this mission.
You can count on our collective outing of ASIC at every opportunity.
Regards,
 
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