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Wellington Capital PIF/Octaviar (MFS) PIF

You are right Duped, my calculation was wrong.

Depends what amount you take the 20% off.
Say it comes off the current value ($253,321,000), then the calculation will be:-

$126,660,500 - $50,664,200 / 830,532,768 = 9 cents

Which seems to compare to the NSX value for most of this year.

Any news about the Class Action?
 
.................... and of course, our illustrious bleeder will still have no knowledge why there is so much interest in our fund. How naive does she think we are?? .. JohnH

Obviously just as naive as she thinks the NSX is.... The NSX believes her, but we know better!
 
IMLO all this NSX trading lately defies open market logic and common sense. Many of those big sales at highly elevated prices like 20c are 'flash trades'. I.e. neither the seller or the buyer puts in an offer or a bid for any perceptible period of time. There's no bid/offer activity for ages and then, BANG, one of these monster trades go through.

Is this what Wallace's Yuan Essentails would do if it wanted to influence the price while only buy from a specific seller. I wonder who it is?

Who's running the shadow market? If it's a broker firm then I wouldn't want to go anywhere near them. Because if they're running a shadow market aren't they the sort of firm that's more likely to trade against their clients?

I mean why bother going through the cost of transfering the units via the NSX? To influence the price? I mean PIF units can be transferred off market can't they? Just fill in an off market transfer form. No need to advertise what you pay. No need to pay broker fees, Assuming any such off market transactions aren't recorded on the NSX then these flash transactions defy common sense.

Day before yesterday we had 1million+ units trade at 20c. And now that seller of 9440 units can't even get 9c. That seller has been gradually dropping their offer price for over a day now. Shouldn't that have triggered another 'please explain' from the NSX? The price is bouncing all over the place. Over in the proper market, the ASX, But over here on the NSX the PIF price can bounce up and down by 100% and the NSX does .... nothing.

Why does WC expose our units to this illogical market mechanism? With an ex Director right there in the thick of it. Isn't WC simply exposing us Mum & Dad investors to the tricks of the sophisticated investors?
 
My second last para should read:


Day before yesterday we had 1million+ units trade at 20c. And now that seller of 9440 units can't even get 9c. That seller has been gradually dropping their offer price for over a day now. Shouldn't that have triggered another 'please explain' from the NSX? The price is bouncing all over the place. Over in the proper market, the ASX, BOW's price only jumped 60% on new of a takeover offer and it got reported on the evening news. But over here on the NSX the PIF price can bounce up and down by 100% and the NSX does .... nothing.
 
Hearing on the radio news how two countries were avoiding formal, public negotiations and choosing instead to "back-channel", I was reminded that back-channeling wasn't restricted to the field of diplomacy...
 
Some more on the Lottery of Justice in Australia:


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/roug...peed-system-20110902-1jpsb.html#ixzz1WpxDody1
 
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive
the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
 

Instructive Selciper.
And perhaps digesting latest escapes by fellow clubbers!?!@??


Justice Middleton; Justice Dowsett; etc, etc,
 

HA - HA; looks like you've garnered the entire shipping container of this resource and will be feeding us mercilessly these juicy tid-bits mirth by mirth till these briefing meetings are over.
Looking forward to mine this coming 8th as will combine the outing with a little R&R in Nerang.
Cheers selciper,
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...um-in-payout-bid/story-e6frg9jf-1226129264123

''............ASIC, meanwhile, has been taking obvious interest in the adventures of the Premium Income Fund since 2008, when it staged a legal challenge to Wellington's bid to be installed as responsible entity on the basis that unitholders were not adequately informed about the fund in August 2008, when the first date for the unitholder vote was set. The meeting, at which Wellington was voted in, did end up occurring in late September 2008....''
 
Just as John Cleese famously blamed everything that went wrong on "the war", expect JH to blame everything on "the GFC". It's unlikely that today's timely spread in the Australian brought smiles to the WC board members' faces.
 
Just as John Cleese famously blamed everything that went wrong on "the war", expect JH to blame everything on "the GFC". It's unlikely that today's timely spread in the Australian brought smiles to the WC board members' faces.

Steven Keen's warnings unfortunately appear to be playing out. Prperty prices are dropping around the country according to the press. Yes Keen took the walk to Kosciusko. But was he forced to concede by our Federal institutions stepping into prop up the market. Who dare disagree we had a massive stimulus to shield the Australian economy.

So why didn't WC take the opportunity to exit the market back then? The current "sideways" moving property market is no surprise to many. What does PIF pay WC for? Has WC's decisions resulted in PIF failing to sell when the selling was good?
 
Somehow, it's not exactly WC's day. May there be more like this one to come.

Towbar I await to hear Jenny Hutsons answer to the NSX latest "Please explain !!
I will be making time to go to the Gold Coast Briefing,are there any other PIFAG
Members from North NSW & Sothern Queensland attending"?
 
Towbar I await to hear Jenny Hutsons answer to the NSX latest "Please explain !!
I will be making time to go to the Gold Coast Briefing,are there any other PIFAG
Members from North NSW & Sothern Queensland attending"?

Yes we will be attending the meeting on the Gold Coast!!!!!
 
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