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it seams to me that you may very well be her dad with your withering and fawning comments about me , you obviously didnt read my post very well,and grasp the content or the substance of the writings, for somebody who has just joined the group please dont cast aspertions about me without reading all of my posts,i HAVE never as your wonderful seamisty has, ever agreed to the removal of clauses from our constitution, this is fact, look at all previous posts, i never wanted JH as our RE at all, i had tried to get enough people to understand that we could have stood alone hiring our own RE because at the time we were still very liquid ,as i said in the previous post i am not i repeat not attacking anybody via this forum, but if you think i am going to sit and take such non constructive ramblings from somebody who obviously hasnt done their home work and is not able to simply understand the gravity of our situation, my answer to you is get a life.
Sorry Simgrund, i should have been more specific, my responce to Sel was an opinion, and i would never try to shoot down Seamisty as she is far more dilligent and gives good inteligent research reports, which in general are well accepted from all, as for other less informed posters which have just appeared i will say bye for now as my opinion is in your veiw of no value, thats fine, the sky wont fall down, and if a few more of us decide to stop posting because of this kind of responce there is a good chance there will only be six or so of you talking to each other, see you and i hope we are sucessfull with our case.To Mary Lynch;
Please check your message box; an innocent enquiry.
And to Flatback and Depressed Dad with posts #6019 #6020 respectively.
Please stay the course towards Class Action. We believe unanimously that these are our posts where the final goals will be kicked in our favour.
The amended Statement of Claim is due for filing this coming week.
This forum is the only means to provide an almost complete picture of ALL developments, however unpalatable some may be.
Please bear in mind 2 previous occasions where this thread was suspended.
Dare I say, that this may be the last word spoken in anger?
With warmest regards,
Its all coming together!!! I think this previous article is extremely relevant to the last post::From the following link:http://www.theage.com.au/business/examination-switches-to-former-mfs-director-20100801-111im.html
Examination switches to former MFS director
COLIN KRUGER
August 2, 2010
THE public examination of the collapse of the Gold Coast financier MFS continues this morning. A former non-executive director, Barry Cronin, is due to appear before the Supreme Court to help explain what went wrong at the company which collapsed in September 2008 with external debts totalling $2.5 billion.
Counsel acting for MFS liquidators, led by Kate Barnett from Bentleys Corporate Recovery, have said the company, now known as Octaviar, may have been insolvent well before its collapse.
To date, the examination has heard how documents were backdated, hundreds of millions of dollars moved between different companies in the group, and how dividends were paid out of non-existent profits.
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But these were not the only issues to raise eyebrows.
Last month the court was told how in March 2008, Louise Edwards, the head of corporate advisory at MFS, recommended that the board pay Grant Samuel $9.5 million rather than the $5.2 million it was contractually obliged to pay.
The corporate adviser had been involved in the sale of a majority stake in the MFS travel business Stella - a role that it was meant to share with another firm - and the board ultimately recommended the $9.5 million payment at a board meeting in March 2008.
The MFS chief financial officer, David Anderson, was asked at the examination if Ms Edwards established a business relationship later that year with the Grant Samuel advisers involved in the sale.
''I understand that Louise was, or is now, involved in … an advisory business. And I have understood that Grant Samuel may play some role in it itself,'' he told the court.
When asked if this had been disclosed when the increased fee was discussed, Mr Anderson said he understood the business relationship was entered into after she left MFS.
Unlike the previous leg of the examination, which focused exclusively on Mr Anderson, Mr Cronin will be joined this week by MFS's internal auditor, Nigel Fitzgerald, and the former chief of MFS Investment Management, Guy Hutchings.
MFS Investment Management was the subsidiary which acted as responsible entity for the $780 million Premium Income Fund. The fund was allegedly milked to shore up MFS in the period before its collapse.
It was sold to Wellington Capital - the income fund's current responsible entity - not long after Wellington Capital was appointed to act as an adviser to the MFS board.
Blueboy1
Its all coming together!!! I think this previous article is extremely relevant to the last post::
All doubts are banished SCOTT ROCHFORT
July 13, 2010
SIGNATURES
While some HFA shareholders may hope the rebranding will erase the nasty memories from its past association with its former shareholder MFS Limited, one former listed HFA satellite still has some clear links with the collapsed Gold Coast financial services firm.
HFA Accelerator Plus, which recently changed its name to Signature Capital Investments, is chaired by John Morrison. He helped advise MFS in his role as a consultant at Grant Samuel. By sheer coincidence, Morrison indirectly owns a stake in another corporate advisory firm, Kaleb Partners, founded in 2008 by the former MFS legal counsel Louise Edwards. By another remarkable coincidence, Edwards is the company secretary of the now named Signature.
The former MFS director Paul Manka also remains a director at Signature. But there is another coincidence: some of Edwards's private business ventures at one point shared the same office space as some of the private ventures of the former MFS chief executive and founder, Michael King.:::http://www.theage.com.au/business/all-dou
bts-are-banished-20100712-107yb.html
Extra info:
HFA Accelerator Plus Ltd was headed by founder and Managing Director
Spencer Young.(July 2004 to February 2007) HFA was wholly owned by MFS before it was floated and spun off in 2006. (http://www.theage.com.au/news/fulld...ork-for-66m-man/2006/04/17/1145126052240.html )
Spencer Young was a non executive director of:MFS LIMITED,
MFS DIVERSIFIED TRUST and MFS DIVERSIFIED GROUP
Louise Edwards and Jenny Hutson were both dealing with parties interested in the Premium Income Fund management rights. One prospective entity was told by Louise Edwards his group was 'one of 25 interested parties' who also was dealing with Jenny Hutson in her capacity as advisor to Chris Scott/OCV.
From a previous MFS power point presentation (http://media.wotnews.com.au/asxann/00750313.pdf) it states Louise edwards is also a solicitor of the Supreme Court of Queensland and the High
Court of Australia.
Seamisty
Hello Gardie, you read my mind!! Surely Bently's would be very astute in any further dealings relating to the realisation of the remaining Octaviar assets in view of past performances from others.Good morning
What happened to the interest in Sunkids child care centres MFS acquired.
Was this sold or is this something waiting to be snapped up by guess who ?
I hope you all chewed your breakfast well because I imagine the following article will make every existing investor in the PIF that was misled by Jenny Hutson want tohttp://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2010/08/03/244345_gold-coast-business.html
Seamisty
This is unbelievable, PIF investors capital misappropriated ,in addition to the 200 million taken out illegally to repay RBOS
How on Earth would WC as RE not be aware that these funds had been illegally withdrawn from our fund to pay our the OCV dividend.???
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