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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

In the Brisbane Supreme Court today:

RE: OCTAVIAR LIMITED (FORMERLY MFS LIMITED) Justice Philip McMurd
Court 15 Floor 3 9:15 AM
(Costs Judgment)
The outcome Marcom, Seamisty:::
http://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2010/QSC10-017.pdf
SUPREME COURT OF QUEENSLAND
CITATION: In the Matter of Octaviar Limited (In Liquidation) (No. 11)
[2010] QSC 17
PARTIES: PUBLIC TRUSTEE OF QUEENSLAND
Applicant
v
OCTAVIAR LIMITED (IN LIQUIDATION)
ACN 107 069 390
FILE NO/S: BS 5184 of 2008
DIVISION: Trial Division
PROCEEDING: Application
ORIGINATING
COURT: Supreme Court at Brisbane
DELIVERED ON: 5 February 2010
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
HEARING DATE: Written submissions
JUDGE: McMurdo J
ORDER: The applications for costs by Wellington Capital Limited
and OPI Pacific Finance Limited are dismissed.
CATCHWORDS: PROCEDURE – COSTS – APPLICATION TO WIND UP
COMPANY – where creditors successfully supported
adjournment of application to permit voluntary administration
– whether their costs should be costs in the winding up
Corporations Act 2001 (Cth), s 601FS(1)
Re Octaviar Limited (No. 1) [2008] QSC 216
Re Octaviar Limited (No. 9) [2009] QSC 273
SOLICITORS: McCullough Robertson on behalf of Wellington Capital
Limited
Russell and Company Solicitors for OPI Pacific Finance
Limited
[1] There are applications by Wellington Capital Limited and OPI Pacific Finance
Limited for certain orders for costs. Each seeks an order that its costs of and
incidental to the hearings of 24 July, 9, 10, 12 and 15 September and 10 October
2008 and otherwise in respect of the adjournment of the application for the winding
up of the company, be costs in the winding up of the company.
2
[2] Until 15 October 2008, the responsible entity of the Premium Income Fund was
Wellington Investment Management Ltd. On that date Wellington Capital Limited
became the responsible entity. It seeks provision for the costs of its predecessor
upon the basis that s 601FS(1) of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) provides that the
rights of the former responsible entity in relation to the fund became its rights. If an
order were to be made in favour of Wellington Capital, there would have to be some
further consideration of that submission. As it happens, I am not persuaded that
either of these applicants should have an order for costs.
[3] The first of those hearings was a routine directions hearing. At that stage the
attitude of the noteholders, represented by the Public Trustee, was not known. The
outcome of the hearing on 9 and 10 September 2008 was Re Octaviar Limited (No.
1).1 I was then persuaded to allow the company an opportunity to appoint
administrators and the winding up application was adjourned. The company’s
argument was supported by each of the present applicants. The hearings of 12 and
15 September and 10 October 2008 were concerned with whether further orders
should be made to permit a voluntary administration to be pursued. The outcome of
those hearings was supported by the present applicants.
[4] Each was a substantial creditor with a commensurate interest in whether the
company was wound up or was allowed to pursue some alternative arrangement.
But further, each company had another reason to oppose a winding up, which was
that it would be likely to be subject to a liquidator’s investigation. I made the same
observation when refusing Wellington Capital Limited its costs of the proceedings
to terminate the deeds of company arrangement.2 Further, the proper interests of
these applicants, as creditors of the company, did not require them to be participants
in the subject hearings in order to protect the interests of the company and creditors
generally. Their case for the adjournment of the winding up application was no
different from that argued for the company and subsequently its administrators.
[5] Mainly for the reason that each company had its own interest in resisting an order
for the winding up of the company, I am not persuaded to grant the order for costs
which is sought. Each application for costs is dismissed.
1 [2008] QSC 216.
2 Re Octaviar Limited (No. 9) [2009] QSC 273 at [7].
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

In the Brisbane Supreme Court today:

RE: OCTAVIAR LIMITED (FORMERLY MFS LIMITED) Justice Philip McMurd
Court 15 Floor 3 9:15 AM
(Costs Judgment)

ORIGINATING
COURT: Supreme Court at Brisbane
DELIVERED ON: 5 February 2010
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
HEARING DATE: Written submissions
JUDGE: McMurdo J
ORDER: The applications for costs by Wellington Capital Limited
and OPI Pacific Finance Limited are dismissed.

And the reasons for dismissal:

"...[4] Each (WIM &OPI) was a substantial creditor with a commensurate interest in whether the
company (Octaviar) was wound up or was allowed to pursue some alternative arrangement.
But further, each company had another reason to oppose a winding up, which was
that it would be likely to be subject to a liquidator’s investigation. I made the same
observation when refusing Wellington Capital Limited its costs of the proceedings
to terminate the deeds of company arrangement.2 Further, the proper interests of
these applicants, as creditors of the company, did not require them to be participants
in the subject hearings in order to protect the interests of the company and creditors
generally.
Their case for the adjournment of the winding up application was no
different from that argued for the company and subsequently its administrators.

[5] Mainly for the reason that each company had its own interest in resisting an order
for the winding up of the company, I am not persuaded to grant the order for costs
which is sought. Each application for costs is dismissed."

Justice McMurdo has stated this twice now - WC intervened in the Octaviar case at substantial legal cost to our fund to avoid a liquidators investigation and to protect the interests of Octaviar.

Grounds for removal of the RE on the basis of acting contrary to the interests of unit holders in contravention of the Corporations Act?
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

ORIGINATING
COURT: Supreme Court at Brisbane
DELIVERED ON: 5 February 2010
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
HEARING DATE: Written submissions
JUDGE: McMurdo J
ORDER: The applications for costs by Wellington Capital Limited
and OPI Pacific Finance Limited are dismissed.

And the reasons for dismissal:

"...[4] Each (WIM &OPI) was a substantial creditor with a commensurate interest in whether the
company (Octaviar) was wound up or was allowed to pursue some alternative arrangement.
But further, each company had another reason to oppose a winding up, which was
that it would be likely to be subject to a liquidator’s investigation. I made the same
observation when refusing Wellington Capital Limited its costs of the proceedings
to terminate the deeds of company arrangement.2 Further, the proper interests of
these applicants, as creditors of the company, did not require them to be participants
in the subject hearings in order to protect the interests of the company and creditors
generally.
Their case for the adjournment of the winding up application was no
different from that argued for the company and subsequently its administrators.

[5] Mainly for the reason that each company had its own interest in resisting an order
for the winding up of the company, I am not persuaded to grant the order for costs
which is sought. Each application for costs is dismissed."

Justice McMurdo has stated this twice now - WC intervened in the Octaviar case at substantial legal cost to our fund to avoid a liquidators investigation and to protect the interests of Octaviar.

Grounds for removal of the RE on the basis of acting contrary to the interests of unit holders in contravention of the Corporations Act?

That is why I asked the basis of W.C.'s action as second mortgagee against the first mortgagee bank selling up that property. W.C. says its taking the action because there is no money for the PIF in the sale - so what?

Isn't that just a big spend on legal fees too?

Isn't it just a slap in the face of investors to see Hutson's husband (or whatever he is) reaping in fees from your fund when there are hundreds of law firms that are totally at arm's length.

Hutson says she wasn't going to charge fees, but I guess she didn't say she wouldn't give hubbie a pile of work. It'd be interesting to see the fee notes, billed by the micro-second?

This is what happens when there is no opposition - a fragmented unitholding in a frozen fund is doublessly a manager's delight.

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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Quote mellifuous::"This is what happens when there is no opposition - a fragmented unitholding in a frozen fund is doublessly a manager's delight."


Mellifuous, PIF unitholders are far from fragmented and are constantly collating and using all available Fund related information as it becomes available.
Forum support from the three duly elected IAC representatives would have been a great step forward in knowing that all those who voted for them were guaranteed the best possible representation!! Where else is all PIF related issues discussed and all relevant court results (posted on here before the NSX!!!) and media articles made available apart from this thread?


Cheers, Seamisty
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Quote mellifuous::"This is what happens when there is no opposition - a fragmented unitholding in a frozen fund is doublessly a manager's delight."


Mellifuous, PIF unitholders are far from fragmented and are constantly collating and using all available Fund related information as it becomes available.
Forum support from the three duly elected IAC representatives would have been a great step forward in knowing that all those who voted for them were guaranteed the best possible representation!! Where else is all PIF related issues discussed and all relevant court results (posted on here before the NSX!!!) and media articles made available apart from this thread?


Cheers, Seamisty


Well, I can only conclude that members (properly informed and up to date) concur with the use of Heading's company as the PIF's solicitors. It would also seem that your leadership is also comfortable with Heading's firm being the fund's solicitors, otherwise there would be a concerted effort to force W.C. to engage another firm.

I'm also surprised that active members of this forum were not aware of the fact that the explanatory memorandum contained a misleading statement as to why it was necessary to wind the fund up in the event the three proposals were rejected.

It seems to me that members are not well informed, but that's only my opinion.

My aim is only to give some thoughts from 'outside the box'.

If you're comfortable that members are fully informed then all should be well.

Thanks.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Heading's company!! Does this mean that Brett Heading , Jenny Hutson's husband, owns Mc Cullough Robertsons Lawyers? I thought he was just a partner? Well, if that is the case then this will just enable us to push/ enforce our argument of 'related party transactions', 'pecuniary interests', 'non arms length tranactions' etc etc. Please confirm that Mc Cullough Robertsons lawyers is owned by Brett Heading, especially since we do not appear to have benefitted in way from the copious quantity of legal representation to date from said firm!! ( which has been extensively collated and kept up to date for future/current reference)
Also, how does 'one' force their RE to use another law firm mellifuous, apart from calling an extraordiary general meeting at investors expense, because I can assure there are many who are not comfortable with the current situation and are using the options open to them to report their concerns to appropriate authorities. Please do not undermine the efforts of some PIF investors that are extremely pro active in seeking solutions to our current predicament. Instead, if you are so concerned, please contact ASIC with your issues so that they may be recorded to help support the investors that have already made the same complaints which I hope are being acted on. Thanks, Seamisty
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Heading's company!! Does this mean that Brett Heading , Jenny Hutson's husband, owns Mc Cullough Robertsons Lawyers? I thought he was just a partner? Well, if that is the case then this will just enable us to push/ enforce our argument of 'related party transactions', 'pecuniary interests', 'non arms length tranactions' etc etc. Please confirm that Mc Cullough Robertsons lawyers is owned by Brett Heading, especially since we do not appear to have benefitted in way from the copious quantity of legal representation to date from said firm!! ( which has been extensively collated and kept up to date for future/current reference)
Also, how does 'one' force their RE to use another law firm mellifuous, apart from calling an extraordiary general meeting at investors expense, because I can assure there are many who are not comfortable with the current situation and are using the options open to them to report their concerns to appropriate authorities. Please do not undermine the efforts of some PIF investors that are extremely pro active in seeking solutions to our current predicament. Instead, if you are so concerned, please contact ASIC with your issues so that they may be recorded to help support the investors that have already made the same complaints which I hope are being acted on. Thanks, Seamisty

Why do you think that there is a difference between a 'partner' and an 'owner' when it comes to related party transactions? Yes, of course, Mr Heading is a partner, but I was using the term 'his' in the ordinary sense, that is, 'the company in which he is an owner (as partner)'.

I would have thought that when a manager says she wouldn't get a fee and then goes and engages her husband's firm (opps, yes, the firm in which he is a partner and stands to gain financially), then that smacks of nepotism - you know, wife gives work to husband's company (in which he is a partner).

I didn't refer to a meeting of members, I refered to bring pressure onto the manager to change to another law firm. I would have thought there might have been a general feeling of discontentment by members of this forum about the fund's legal representations and adventures.

One might put pressure on the manager by representations on behalf of a group of members, complaints to ASIC, letters to the media - after all, it seems a tad tacky that the husband of your manager stands to gain financially when the manager made representations that she would not take a fee - that is, not benefit financially.

To my mind, and really only to my mind, it seems that Ms. Hutson stands to gain through Mr. Heading's company (in which he is a partner) from business given by the fund's manager to his firm (in which is a partner).

I'd be happy to make a complaint to ASIC about the statement in the explanatory memorandum, and yes, I'm aware that others, in particular Jadel, have made complaints to ASIC - complaints which were either unheeded or ignored.

I also think that ASIC should bring pressure on your manager to engage another firm of solicitors.

I don't infer in any way that Mr. Headings firm is not a good firm of solicitors, I only infer that it seems (in my opinion) to not sit well with W.C.'s promise about no fees (that is, if such a statement should include other finanical benefits that might flow from the fund's business activities).

I do not infer anything with respect to what work is done out of sight of members, nor do I infer that there is nothing being done - my only comment was directed to the fact that no one seemed happy with the fund's legal arrangements but nothing seemed to be being done about it.

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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Law firms aren't companies. They dearly would love to be. So the partners can make loads more $$$$. They keep pushing for it. But fortunately for all of us decent Australians, that gate at the top of that steep and very slippery slope has held. But for how long.

Do we really think we'll get a better deal with another firm? Conflict-of-interest is a round-about way of getting JH to ditch MR. IMO the problem lies with JH herself. JH was a partner herself and hence should be well skilled in balancing costs and benefits. (She certainly wasn't shy telling us at the forum that going after Hutchings & Co.s insurers wasn't worth it) JH is also the ONE who provides instructions. MR may well just be acting as a 2nd opinion and back office.

Lets focus on the real issue: that we PIF keeps on losing. We've come out of all these 'battles' with hardly a victory to praise. AND we keep on racking multiple MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in legal bills. From what I've read so far, JH's legal skill ain't impressing me. The lawyers at PTQ have outplayed us.

Anyone have a list of all the decisions? My list so far is:
QCA09-282
QSC08-243
QSC09-037
QSC09-202
QSC09-283
QSC10-017
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

How will WC announce this latest court defeat to PIF investors? And will the release be carefully edited to avoid any criticism of WC?
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Wellington Capital has lost yet another legal action on the 5th February.
More million dollars coming out of our Fund, to support JH family.


Why cannot WC inform us of the total of funds lost to all legal actions
thus far?


Wellington must RESIGN and hand the Fund to someone else.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Law firms aren't companies. They dearly would love to be. So the partners can make loads more $$$$. They keep pushing for it. But fortunately for all of us decent Australians, that gate at the top of that steep and very slippery slope has held. But for how long.

Do we really think we'll get a better deal with another firm? Conflict-of-interest is a round-about way of getting JH to ditch MR. IMO the problem lies with JH herself. JH was a partner herself and hence should be well skilled in balancing costs and benefits. (She certainly wasn't shy telling us at the forum that going after Hutchings & Co.s insurers wasn't worth it) JH is also the ONE who provides instructions. MR may well just be acting as a 2nd opinion and back office.

Lets focus on the real issue: that we PIF keeps on losing. We've come out of all these 'battles' with hardly a victory to praise. AND we keep on racking multiple MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in legal bills. From what I've read so far, JH's legal skill ain't impressing me. The lawyers at PTQ have outplayed us.

Anyone have a list of all the decisions? My list so far is:
QCA09-282
QSC08-243
QSC09-037
QSC09-202
QSC09-283
QSC10-017

Thanks Duped - legal firms aren't companies, they are partnerships.

I'm always surprised how trivia raises its head and substantive issues are ignored.

Who is to say that another firm of solicitors would see good sense in the legal adventures undertaken to date?

Who among you have seen senior counsel's opinion as to the success or otherwise of such adventures? Who gave your manager the advice to take the actions it took?

It's really nice to report all your fund's lost cases, a task which will doubtlessly keep you engaged for some time, but where will it get you?

'The lawyers at PTQ outplayed us"? Is it too much to understand that your manager might has taken your money and wasted it on an adventure with little opportunity for success?

I know it's a really hard thing to come to grips with, but most legal cases are won or lost on facts - that's why I'm wondering why your fund is now fighting the first mortgage holder on the sale of property on the basis that there's no money left over for the second mortgagee - wow! and the third mortgagee is in there too - things must really be desparate.

You can keep reporting the losses, it's just not going to take you anywhere.

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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Anyone have a list of all the decisions? My list so far is:
QCA09-282
QSC08-243
QSC09-037
QSC09-202
QSC09-283
QSC10-017

Here is the list off the Supreme Court site http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/qld/QSC/toc-O.html

# Octaviar Investment Notes Ltd, Re [2008] QSC 342 (18 December 2008)
# Octaviar Limited (Formerly MFS Limited), Re [2008] QSC 216 (12 September 2008)
# Octaviar Ltd & Ors v. Grieg & Anor [2008] QSC 335 (12 December 2008)
# Octaviar Ltd (Administrators appointed), Re [2008] QSC 272 (10 October 2008)
# Octaviar Ltd, Re (No 10) [2009] QSC 283 (9 September 2009)
# Octaviar Ltd, Re (No 8) [2009] QSC 202 (31 July 2009)
# Octaviar Ltd, Re (No 9) [2009] QSC 273 (21 August 2009)
# Octaviar Ltd, Re; Re Octaviar Administration P/L [2009] QSC 37 (6 March 2009)

Plus last weeks cost decision: http://www.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/latest

In the Matter of Octaviar Limited (In Liquidation) (No. 11) [2010] QSC 017 McMurdo J 5/02/2010
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

In the Sydney Federal Court Wed 10 February:

Justice Perram Court Room 18C

9:30 AM Directions

1 by Videoconference

(P)NSD1628/2008 BOND STREET CUSTODIANS LTD v WELLINGTON INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT LTD

By Video conference? - a cost cutting exercise???
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

I guess the questions are these:-

1. Would you have listed the fund if you knew that the manager didn't have to wind the fund up if the fund remained unlisted?

Hi Mel

On behalf of the AG I have previously advised ASIC of this bullying 14c firesale threat used by WC in the 2008 RE vote. It was a grossly unfair tactic!
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Hi Mel

On behalf of the AG I have previously advised ASIC of this bullying 14c firesale threat used by WC in the 2008 RE vote. It was a grossly unfair tactic!

'bullying threat'? I would thought it was misleading - As I understand it, the manager is saying that because the maximum period redemptions are to be frozen (subject to the fund's constitution) then the only option left is to wind the fund up - that is, as Michael West said, "wrong".

The manager is not merely saying that it 'will' wind up the fund, it is saying that it 'has' to wind up the fund - which is not true.

It is clear that the effect of the statement was to give members the impression of an ultimatum, when such an impression was based on a false premise - I think the manager seemed to be stating the facts as the manager (mistakenly) believed.

ASIC should force the de-listing of the fund - at the manager's sole expense.

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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

In the Sydney Federal Court Wed 10 February:

Justice Perram Court Room 18C

9:30 AM Directions

1 by Videoconference

(P)NSD1628/2008 BOND STREET CUSTODIANS LTD v WELLINGTON INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT LTD

By Video conference? - a cost cutting exercise???
Who knows Marcom, but JH will be very busy as usual accruing legal expenses on our behalf with no apparent results to date. Friday JH is back in court re the St George Bank sale of the Sheraton Mirage to Pearls. Thursday 18th Feb is the CA hearing where I see WC has finally filed their affidavit re being dropped as a named respondant in the CA. Would love to see what excuse it contains!!!


09-Feb-2010 Affidavit Wellington Investment Management Ltd

Is it any wonder PIF investors are bombarding ASIC with WC complaints!!!Seamisty
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Mellifuous. Remind me where WC said that the fund 'has' to be wound up?

I made an incorrect assumption based on the info that WC provided to me. But was I mislead? Maybe, as other posters seem to be suggesting, WC merely hustled me. But does that necessarily mean that WC fell into the definition of 'misleading and deceptive conduct'. I think I was mislead. But isn't taking advantage of imbalances in the market (like information imbalances) called smart business practice? And both Labor & the Coalition promote a market economy. At what point does WC's taking advantage of my lack of knowledge of the law surrounding the PIF Trust become illegal? (There's a huge chasm between being legal and being ethical. Ethics is to many lawyers like alternative medicine was once to most of our suburban GPs. I.e. their livelihood depends on maintaining that ethics is irrelevant)

(There has to be a limit to the lack of knowledge and intelligence of the audience. How much should WC be expected to have to spell everything out. I think that level is too high. See my posting #125 on your ‘Managed fund co-operation group’ thread. But the Fed and their spin off commissions like ASIC and ACCC can't be seen to admitting that they expect too much knowledge from their citizens because they risk becoming redundant or being seen to fail.)

Was I mislead or just hustled? IMO it's dangerous for us to have WC do either. And it certainly feels that WC is just hustling me. Dressing it up as the virtues of strength and tenacity with all those quotes and putting everything possible behind the commercial-in-confidence wall.

Look at the decision from the action ASIC took against WC. Originating application was filed 11 September 2008. See http://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2008/QSC08-243.pdf.

Neither ASIC nor McMurdo addressed this point. Both had the opportunity.

ASIC’s action and/or McMurdo’s consideration was incomplete. It looked at questions of distributions, size of distributions, etc. Meanwhile WC was selling an apocalyptical story to me. Neither ASIC nor McMurdo seem to have explored the effect of this story telling. Not once does the decision look at this story telling from my perspective i.e. absolutely zero knowledge of the winding up procedures. Look at these two excerpts from that decision:

Page 3 “In broad terms the comparison is between an estimated 14 cents per unit in the event of a redemption in March of next year and about 45 cents in the event that the fund continues to trade, is able to conduct an orderly realisation of assets and otherwise is able to conduct its affairs over the next three to five years.”

Page 17 “It seems to me to be likely that many unit holders would be affected in their consideration of the business proposed for tomorrow's meeting by what was proposed by way of interim payments. Of course that is not the only thing which is proposed and there are other financial considerations involved in a choice between effectively terminating the fund early next year and allowing it to trade on for three to five years, which perhaps have even more importance for investors than what they will receive by way of quarterly payments.”

Now I'm being told that there is vast number of alternatives in between these two “choices”. Something that ASIC and McMurdo also failed to even hint at. This implies to me that WC's story telling wasn't illegal.

As for the disclaimer that I should seek professional advice before making a deision on which way to vote. Both my AFS licensed (an ASIC system) financial advisor as well as Lonsec recommended a yes vote.

Looks like it was all a hustle by WC.

Look at the spin JH put on the affair in the following AFR article; emphasis added. Contrary to what JH said, I now agree with ASIC taking it to court. It’s not ASIC’s role to provide legal advice, to “respond positively to what was a practical solution”. ASIC is not there to provide free second opinions and propose amendments. JH knows that. The article reads that according to JH, anything in the documentation and presentation that could mislead is ASIC’s fault because ASIC didn’t give WC the corrections. What a hustle. IMLO: WC had ASIC in a corner with no time left to throw any counter punches. I hope ASIC has learnt a lesson from our experience but I doubt it.

Australian Financial Review 15Sep2008
“ASIC fights Gold Coast meeting.
” The Australian Securities and Investments Commission has started proceedings in the Supreme Court of Queensland to stop Wellington Investment Management from holding a meeting involving Premium Income Fund unit holders on the Gold Coast this week.
The meeting was called to ask the fund's 10,300 unit holders to approve several proposals including its listing on the National Stock Exchange, which would allow some investors to start retrieving their funds.
But ASIC has sought a restraining order stopping Wellington from holding the meeting claiming that unit holders require additional information in order to make informed decisions. The proceeding will be heard on September 17 in Brisbane, while the meeting is set down for September 18 on the Gold Coast.
An angered Jenny Hutson, managing director of Wellington Investment Management, said she was disappointed that she had offered ASIC a solution to the issues it had raised and she would vigorously oppose the corporate watchdog's application.
"What is disappointing to me is on Friday I offered ASIC a solution to the issues they have raised," she said.
"I indicated to ASIC in correspondence sent at 2pm as chairman of the meeting scheduled for next Thursday I was more than prepared to advise the meeting of any issue of concern to ASIC and invite a meeting to adjourn until such time they had had the opportunity to consider whatever ASIC thought was reasonable.
Instead of responding positively to what was a practical solution to a procedural difficulty ASIC have now served me with documents seeking an injunction from the Supreme Court the day before the meeting is to be held. I am currently anticipating that more than 1000 people will attend that meeting.
Ms Hutson said more than 5320 of the 10,387 investors in the fund had already lodged a proxy representing more than $400 million, or 53 per cent of the value of the fund. “On every resolution more than 95 per cent of the vote by value is in favour of what is proposed,” she said.
“ASIC asked me in July to ensure they had the opportunity to review all documents prior to it being printed. ASIC was provided with the meeting material seven days before it was due to be finalised. I had three discussions with them in relation to issues. It was consultative. I made adjustments to ensure everything they raised was fully addressed.
“This is a last minute inappropriate reaction to the voice of the minority who remain distressed and angry about their situation.”
Ms Hutson said it would cost , more than $100,000 to adjourn the meeting with some investors travelling from Tokyo and Auckland as well as from every Australian city.
Ms Hutson argued there were a lot of issues, such as the fund's $55 million exposure to the stricken Raptis Group, that had to be dealt with in the next month.
"We have got to move now because we have a lot of issues that have been waiting an outcome of this meeting. If we wait a month it could cost the PIF $20 million in lost opportunities," she said.
Meanwhile, ratings agency Lonsec, has supported and recommended to their clients they vote yes to all three resolutions Wellington had proposed for PIF investors at the meeting on Thursday.
". . . in the absence of any alternatives which potentially offer a better outcome than the 45c (plus any recovery from MFS) and taking a medium-term view as to the best total return outcome for investors, Lonsec recommends voting yes to all three proposals."
Lonsec also notes that while Wellington is a "relatively new investment banking and funds management boutique", the firms's extensive legal experience "is likely to be of significant assistance over the short to medium term".
"Despite limited direct funds management experience, Jenny Hutson and her team at Wellington have a strong motivation to make the PIF successful and are enthusiastic about tackling the challenges presented," Lonsec said."


Have we passed the “short to medium term” now? Any of you Lonsec ‘clients’ still around? What’s Lonsec saying now? WC still a go-er? How does Lonsec value WC’s “extensive legal experience” for the fund now? Especially in the light of our multi million $$$ legal bills and the relative lack of success.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

'bullying threat'? I would thought it was misleading - As I understand it, the manager is saying that because the maximum period redemptions are to be frozen (subject to the fund's constitution) then the only option left is to wind the fund up - that is, as Michael West said, "wrong".
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G'day Mel

The terms "misleading" and "bullying" are not mutually exclusive

Have you passed your concerns on to ASIC and if so in what capacity - are you a PIF unit holder?
 
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