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Hang on a minute Burnt, if you are talking about accuracy!
Page 63 of the Memorandum clearly states in Note #1 "No management fee will be charged until after 3 cents in cash has been paid to Unitholders."
.Quote Burnt; Re-financed Loan - the loan of $9.5mil is a completely new loan provided by a "non-bank" lender (as stated in the Annual Report). End Quote ::::age 26 annual report: Since the end of the financial year, the bank debt, which had been incurred by the previous directors and which carried with it the threat of liquidation, has been repaid. Accordingly the threat of receivership from this source has been extinguished. To enable the repayment of the bank debt, the fund has entered into a new finance facility with a non-bank financial institution.:::: I read that as the remainder of the existing loan was refinanced. Seamisty
so what is happehing with that claim in the supreme court lodged by wc ,that was months ago when is it going to be heard. or was it lodged just so nothing could be said because it is before the court
Suggest if you think you are entitled to this information and would like to participate in the responsibility of repaying it, then by all means contact WC and inform them of what you perceive to be your right. I am quite happy for WC to earn their money and do their job without personal intervention from me. SeamistyRegarding the $9.5mil Loan. Seamisty, your post 3640 stated "that loan of $9.5mil was the remaining part of the $100mil outstanding from RBOS when WC took control. It was renegotiated, not a new loan".
By the way, who is this loan with ?? What are the terms and conditions ??
Shouldn't Unit Holders be entitled to know - we are the ones that have to repay it.
Quote Burnt::If WIM were still the RE and they were to receive management fees before May 2009 (representing their net profit as all costs are paid by the Fund), then purchase price would be 4 x that amount.
WIM are no longer RE !! WIM will have no net profit !!! end quote::: What is the significance of this debate, if there is a profit WC will pay OCV four times that amount, and the value of NTA of assets of the PIF at the end of the 12 month period , regardless of who the RE is. End of story. Seamisty
The claim was filed in the Brisbane Registry on 24 June 2008. Assuming the papers were served on the defendants within 7 days (1 July 2008), the defendants had 28 days to file a defence (29 July 2008). A Notice of Intention to Defend should have been filed with the court. No Notice of Intention to Defend has been filed with the court.so what is happehing with that claim in the supreme court lodged by wc ,that was months ago when is it going to be heard. or was it lodged just so nothing could be said because it is before the court
Look at the real culprits and don't tie yourself down by this any further, anyone would think you were asked to pay for the cost of acquiring the PIF out of your own pockets. Jeeze Louise!!!!
P.S. Where are you Rance...I miss your calming sanity?????
The claim was filed in the Brisbane Registry on 24 June 2008. Assuming the papers were served on the defendants within 7 days (1 July 2008), the defendants had 28 days to file a defence (29 July 2008). A Notice of Intention to Defend should have been filed with the court. No Notice of Intention to Defend has been filed with the court.
There are now over 3700 posts to this thread. I agree, Splitpin, it is time for WC to meet with some PIF investor reps. It's our money that's been locked up. I guess we could reach a total of 7000 posts by this time next year and still be in a depressing fog!
Selciper, I don't think there would be a problem with meeting with JH, it is just that you will not be told any more information than you can get by calling the hotline. If those who answer your call are unsure of anything, I find they seek further advice from those more qualified and pass it on. JH has already indicated to the AG that there is very little at this point in time that can be passed on to investors, but that does not mean that WC is not sitting idle in the meantime. If you have questions you would like put foward that do not require a price sensitive market response contact WC yourself. JH is not going to risk making statements regarding distributions again that cannot be met until they are absolutely certain that they will take place, the priority being I think is re paying the outstanding loan of $9.5million which is due at the end of November. I just read SPLITPINS post, and yes by all means go for it, just not sure who you will get to agree to it. At the end of the day, it will not make one scrap of difference to some unit holders what JH says, they have already reached their own conclusions, but I personally have no problem with your suggestion. SeamistyThere are now over 3700 posts to this thread. I agree, Splitpin, it is time for WC to meet with some PIF investor reps. It's our money that's been locked up. I guess we could reach a total of 7000 posts by this time next year and still be in a depressing fog!
Sume, I seriously think that if you are a unit holder (and I am not saying you aren't) you have a lot of background research on your investment to catch up on. Most of the information can be obtained by googling each issue individually. All the information is out there, but you sound as though you have already formed an opinion and I am not sure of your agenda. Call WC hotline for any information you require, the number is on most of the correspondence you would have received from WC in regard to your investment. At least that way, you can get your answer from the (dead) horses mouth. Seamistyso does that mean that the claim was just a sham and jh never intended to sue her friend chris scott,and accept the pittance offered to her and all the other tame re's like msf pacific etc leaving stella untouched so then being debt free , the share price in oct will go up and chrssie will get his money back good plan
Quite the contrary Burnt, I suggest you or Dora put your hand up to represent the PIFI, I am sure either of you will be well received by WC. It does seem that there a few who are a bit shy using the hotline and I have always found it very usefull, that is why I encourage others to use it. My expertise lies in other areas although I am sure I would make a good PR person just as some would qualify as NR people. SeamistySeamisty,
Thanks so much once again for giving instructions on contacting JH and WC -
how to, the purposes of, how JH & staff will respond, the restrictions, etc.
You sound like you might be JH's personal assistant.
Are you saying it is pointless for unit holders to meet with WC ? Or is it only certain unit holders that should be discouraged from trying to obtain information ? What would the point of having a unit holder advisory committee be then ?
There is lots of information which WC should be providing us about our fund. Do not be put off asking a question because it is price sensitive. Information being price sensitive dose not prevent WC from disclosing, it just means WC must announce the information to the NSX first. This is a good thing. Hopefully if lots of unit holders contact WC asking for info we'll see NSX announcements worth reading....JH has already indicated to the AG that there is very little at this point in time that can be passed on to investors, but that does not mean that WC is not sitting idle in the meantime. If you have questions you would like put foward that do not require a price sensitive market response contact WC yourself. JH is not going to risk making statements regarding distributions again that cannot be met until they are absolutely certain that they will take place,...
A fifth of $20 mill is 1% of our fund and not to be scoffed at.OMG OCV have debts in excess of over $1.3B dollars and rising everyday, and you lose sleep over whether WC will or will not pay 10-20 million piddly dollars (in the scheme of things), to add to the pool to be divided amongst all creditors....
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