- Joined
- 30 May 2008
- Posts
- 328
- Reactions
- 0
ASIC media release from yesterday with details on withdrawals from frozen funds for hardship...Just listening to the 5 o'clock news - Wayne Swan was being pressured into giving investors in funds greater access to their frozen monies. Something like access to $20,000 or half their investment over 1 year, but I might have got that wrong.
...
J
But the good thing about all this, is, that we are not a lone fund crying out in the wilderness anymore!
Breaker, we are lonely because we are one of the only funds not currently paying a distribution.
I did say "one of" but the majority of national mortgage funds are still paying distributions. It is interesting it is the two Gold Coast funds suffering the most. Something about the colour of shoes.Others out there as well.
See following article in todays AFR and how City Pacific FMF customers are suffering:
http://www.afr.com/home/viewer.aspx...home&title=Stress+mounts+as+fund+freeze+bites
It is interesting it is the two Gold Coast funds suffering the most. Something about the colour of shoes.
Breaker, we are lonely because we are one of the only funds not currently paying a distribution.
Not too lonely:
"Today the Directors of City Pacific have announced that the City Pacific First Mortgage Fund (Fund) has been deemed non-liquid and that the payment of future distributions will be dependent upon the level and timing of loan repayments by borrowers to the Fund. The City Pacific First Mortgage Fund will not be paying distributions for the months of September or October. As a result of this the Income Fund will not be able to pay distributions for the months of September or October and the payment of future distributions by the Income Fund will be dependent upon the City Pacific First Mortgage Fund paying distributions."
Sound familiar? JH could almost have worded our 28 Oct investor update the same way.
When the average PIF investor, who has not got a clue, get their 28 Oct Update in the mail and find out their won't be any 1.5c distribution & sus out the Dec 1.5c is unlikely - #$%^>*<&!! They will do most of the talkin for us!
Regardless, if the money in asset sales fell through and is not their to be paid, it would appear that JH has decided to cope the flack, instead of jeopardize our already hard pressed fund any further. Under this painful circumstance, I would prefer that, to WC fire selling or taking loans to make it happen simply to save face.
Section 26 Winding up of scheme of the constitution answers your question. Have a look at it here: http://www.nsxa.com.au/ftp/news/021720781.PDF as the constitution on the newpif website is the wrong one!Can some body out there who knows something tell us investors this If WC cant pay a div in Dec Can WC put the fund into a con trolled wind down if they wish Like the old MFS managers wanted to do Before WC took over /////////
Thanks Dora for that You sure are a great asset to the Forum / Dane //Section 26 Winding up of scheme of the constitution answers your question. Have a look at it here: http://www.nsxa.com.au/ftp/news/021720781.PDF as the constitution on the newpif website is the wrong one!
The constitution says the RE must comply with section 601NC(2) of the Corp Act before winding up which enables members to put this to a vote. Also note 22.2.1 which enables members to direct the RE to wind up the scheme.
A unit holder called WC on Friday 28 Oct 2008 to ask about the cash payment which was due and was told:
“It wasn't going to be paid because they had only just realised that they had to give nsx at least 2 weeks notice of any distributions to be paid. so it will probably be paid early november.
Can you believe it - I thought I had heard all their BS stories, but no here's another one.”
It doesn’t surprise me that WC didn’t know about the NSX requirements after what GD posted (#3308) but surely if that was the reason and if they intend to pay early November there would have been an x div date on the NSX last week.
I know WC cant make a payment when there is no cash But what bugs me is this JH would have know this when she asked for an yes vote at the last GC meeting No body can prove me wrong on this point / Dane //
Yes thats true But that is not the point I am making Investers voted yes at that meeting being told we would get a payment at the end of Oct WC were saying we would get one But WC would have known then we were not getting one Nobody can prove me wrong on this one PS they were called payments with MFS in those days not dividence You can only call them dividends when they are listed on the exchange & are a public company // That should give you a clue why i am right / Dane ///Dane, think back to March this year. I am sure many readers of this forum, had budgeted and promised to pay bills in the knowledge that they would be receiving their dividend from MFS around the 10th of the month!!!!
You dont trust real estate and LAWYERS your words you dont trust LAWYERS That means you dont trust your great leader JH Who is a lawyer Yes i must agree with you on that one Cheers / Dane ///Other threads discuss "capitulation" basically where everyone just throws in the towel and gives up taking a loss. I am very wary of your comments Deano because I honestly believe that nothing would be easier for our RE if everyone just threw in the towel and took 15 c on NSX. Wow what a windfall to have all those pesky unitholders eliminated for peanuts and without ever having to give a "capital distribution". I would love to know the origins and game plan of the bidders offering to buy on NSX.
Note to self, remember parents rule # 10.
Don't trust real estate agents and lawyers. I have added financial advisors to my list.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?