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I guess my main point is that the economy is not a cake where if i take a larger slice, you automatically get a smaller one. If i my company makes a million dollars, it's because i have delivered more than a million dollars of value back into the economy, I haven't stolen from anyone and nobody got less, we all got more.
My staff had more shifts available
My suppliers had greater sales
I paid more taxes
My customers had products they needed
And i made a profit, which i then reinvest the bulk of, or i spend generating more of the same benefits listed above for other businesses.
I thought that you were some how suggesting it was immoral that a person could amass large amounts of personal fortune when there are others in the world living in poverty.
No
There is community in the third world, very strong community's..its how they survive extreme poverty, when good fortune smiles on one or a small group it is shared around, and expected to be...fertile ground is managed and worked, water a vital resource, intelligence is local and based on living to see tomorrow.
With respect: Anyone who spends more than 5 minutes close up and personal in the third world knows that...community is a vital part of staying alive, poverty is what they are trying to overcome and that's not easy when everyone is poor...the **** i have seen people do for a couple of dollars is amazing.
Nice post.
It's hard to believe, but there really are plenty of people in the world who passionately believe that if you do manage to get ahead in the manner you're describing, it can only be done at the expense of someone else. Bizarre, right? My theory is they hold this view mostly to make themselves feel better about never having pulled their finger out and had a crack themselves. A harmless enough delusion. But they vote. And breed
... insanity.
What were Easter islanders thinking when they uprooted their last tree?
What am I thinking when I fuel my car?
Pure insanity!
When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money.
~ Cree Prophecy
You have a very succinct way with words. Reminds me of an ancient American saying I first saw on a T-shirt ...
I'd like to see more school organised trips to 3rd world countries. Get kids exposed to the bigger world picture from a young age.
Craft,
What is the purpose of this thread?
(This is not a rhetorical question)
I think all we should ‘teach’ our children is how to think independently. Then expose them to as much variety as possible and they will learn and learn far more than we can ever ‘teach’ them.
Craft,
What is the purpose of this thread?
(This is not a rhetorical question)
I don't know.
Am I supposed to assign it a purpose?
There's no shortage of disadvantaged people right here in Australia. It might be good if some of the critics of western civilisations could look at doing something themselves as individuals before engaging in so much self-flagellation about the evils of our capitalist society. Perhaps it's my own social milieu, but all around me I see people giving their time and skills to AusAid overseas and personally engaging in helping others, both in terms of time and money right in their own community.
Seems more constructive to me than celebrating greater profits every year on a personal basis.
I don't know.
Am I supposed to assign it a purpose?
Re an earlier suggestion that children should be taken as part of the school program to third world countries, perhaps consider that many parents in lower socioeconomic areas have trouble finding the money to fund a day excursion. never mind an overseas trip.
Neither should schools take on the responsibility of keeping children safe in countries where safety is an issue, even for independent adults.
There seems to be an impression that no reference is made in schools to disadvantaged third world countries.
As part of a school mentoring program I've been in several classes, usually Grades 4 and 5, where a video has been shown depicting the lives of children scavenging in rubbish dumps. The teacher has then led a quite astonishingly perceptive discussion comparing the lives of these children with those in the class, many of whom we middle class people would consider decidedly disadvantaged.
Not really,That's a real shame.
I don’t want to share what I do personally - Some people want to be acknowledged in the area some want to be anonymous. If you want to share in such a way – go for it. The thread has no purpose no boundaries, share your hart out.Such threads could actually be of real benefit if the participants (and creators) would be willing to share just what it is they actually do, in order to address the issues that they seem to care so much about.
What do YOU personally do that demonstrates your concerns about the issues raised and what actions do you take on a regular basis that others can emulate? How do you lead by example?
I'll tell you where you (anyone reading this) can start...
Accept responsibility and take control of your own actions so that they reflect your beliefs. That is all that each and every single person on this planet can do.
The problem we have is that we're all too concerned about what everyone else is doing.
Craft,
What is the purpose of this thread?
(This is not a rhetorical question)
I don't know.
Am I supposed to assign it a purpose?
Craft,
What is the purpose of this thread?
(This is not a rhetorical question)
My observation (and I think it's as obvious as dogs balls) is that money system is concentrating wealth at an extraordinary rate, rather then circulating benefits to where they are needed the most and more of the same isn’t going to fix that. That’s something I can’t fix personally, the best I could do was start this thread to provoke some thinking.
Craft, do you mind if we start again?
The End.....(Meaning, no response from me)
Last edited by ftw129; Today at 11:22 AM. Reason: Punctuation makes all the difference
I understand that, skc, and agree about the personal impact being greater in the reality.When I was at school there were plenty of focus ski trips, but nothing to 3rd world country. Yes, not everyone can afford an overseas trip but at least the option is available to those who'd like to attend. And I have read or watched plenty of documentaries on 3rd world countries and issues etc, but the impact was a million times greater when I had the opportunities to travel there and experience it in person first hand. And hence my suggestion.
Exactly, and that's why if we all adopt some of the many opportunities right here in Australia to address some of the disadvantage, then surely it's better than just being a critic.This is unlikely to be a solution to the inequality issue... but I'd imagine the issue cannot be solved with a single action anyway. It may need hundreds and thousands of smaller changes to eventually turn the tide very gradually.
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