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Putin has made it clear that he won't allow or risk Ukraine falling under NATO rule ever - he's had enough of just about every other country nearby to Russia being controlled/under NATO influence at Russia's doorstep so to speak - he told Macron re-iterating above reason for wanting to take all of Ukraine to ensure it doesn't fall into NATO hands. This is unification of Ukraine with Russia that Putin wants - to try keep NATO military threat at bay.

Putin will be cornered/pushed into possibly using nuclear weapons at some stage (I don't condone this as I really hate the atrocities of war no matter the underlying reasons as it can never be justified the terrible horrific human suffering/misery caused by war).

I see a terrible escalation of Ukraine war crisis spreading into neighbouring countries - the prophecies are clear stating that this will happen but in the end neither one will win.

Putin will weaken NATO & the US allies much so.. howver Putin will eventually fall on his sword so to speak after wrecking much chaos/terrible misery across Europe & the Middle East.
 
xris said:
Yes!!
Soldiers are taught/drilled to OBEY orders, not to evaluate or judge them.
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In some Armies that may be true, but in most western armies it is the soldiers responsibility to evaluate whether an order is Lawful or not, the fact that you were "following orders" is not a defence in you break laws and committing war crimes.

For example, if you have an insane Captain that orders you to fire on non combatants and you do it, both him and you can be jailed.
 
People can still get in and out of Kyef by the Southern route though it is being heavily bombed. Holding off Russian troops for a week longer will allow more weapons and support from the South. Attacking the supply route to Russian forces may well be the aim of the Ukraine armed forces. Oligarchs fear their money and assets are set to be sold for war reparations.
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Putin is ‘trying but failing’ to control Ukraine invasion narrative by shutting down non-state media

Two independent Russian news outlets that refused to spout the Kremlin's talking points following President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine were forced off the air this week.
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Telamelo said:
Putin has made it clear that he won't allow or risk Ukraine falling under NATO rule ever - he's had enough of just about every other country nearby to Russia being controlled/under NATO influence at Russia's doorstep so to speak - he told Macron re-iterating above reason for wanting to take all of Ukraine to ensure it doesn't fall into NATO hands. This is unification of Ukraine with Russia that Putin wants - to try keep NATO military threat at bay.

Putin will be cornered/pushed into possibly using nuclear weapons at some stage (I don't condone this as I really hate the atrocities of war no matter the underlying reasons as it can never be justified the terrible horrific human suffering/misery caused by war).

I see a terrible escalation of Ukraine war crisis spreading into neighbouring countries - the prophecies are clear stating that this will happen but in the end neither one will win.

Putin will weaken NATO & the US allies much so.. howver Putin will eventually fall on his sword so to speak after wrecking much chaos/terrible misery across Europe & the Middle East.
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NATO and EU were doing a fine job of weakening themselves , but now they have Russia as a scapegoat as they pilfer more tax-payer money under the guise of 'security '
 
It does look as if Russia will take over the greater part of Ukraine. As weapons are going into the country there will probably be an unstable situation continuing for years to come. That situation set then to continue until there is a new regime in Russia.

China's President Xi Jinping is reported to be peeved as Putin attacked before his Olympic winter Games are completed leading to abstention votes. However, he sees now that if the West stops importing so much oil and gas from Russia. Then he may well get Russian supplies at a very big discount to the market price. Russia have batted themselves into a stale mate position with Ukraine likely to continue to be costly.

The Russian Oligarchs are set to lose most of their assets in America as Biden offset their costs supporting Ukraine. Russia thus paying for the weapons that are set to kill their own army.
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President Putin looks set to seize the assets of all foreign investors and also leading to foreign shareholders losing all their interests held in shares in retaliation. Another move may be to nationalise all bitcoin miners interests even if Russian. Then continuing setting up Russia's own crypto currency.
 
noirua said:
President Putin looks set to seize the assets of all foreign investors and also leading to foreign shareholders losing all their interests held in shares in retaliation. Another move may be to nationalise all bitcoin miners interests even if Russian. Then continuing setting up Russia's own crypto currency.
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One wonders if it will be a joint currency, between China and Russia.
 
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Russian troops aiming to 'mine' nuclear plant to 'blackmail the whole of Europe:' Zaporizhzhia employees

Staff at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Enerhodar sent a message to Ukrainian media and government authorities warning that the Russian troops that took the plant are trying to lay down explosives in order to "blackmail all of Europe."
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Gannytskyi told Fox News Digital that Ukrainian officials fear that the Russians "can use this fact that they control the nuclear power plant to organize pressure on Ukraine, they can use that station like a big hostage." The workers warned "that they are putting explosive materials near the buildings of the nuclear plant to provide pressure on the Ukrainian army, people."
 
Russia and Ukraine are large suppliers of many critical products. The longer and more destructive this war becomes the higher the risk of food and material shortages across the globe as well as escalating prices.
This analysis explores the question.

How a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the ‘breadbasket of Europe,’ could hit supply chains​

Published Wed, Feb 23 202212:16 AM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 23 20222:26 PM EST

Weizhen Tan@weizent
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Key Points
  • Russia is also the world’s top wheat exporter. Together with Ukraine, both account for roughly 29% of the global wheat export market.
  • “China is also a big recipient of Ukrainian corn — in fact, Ukraine replaced the U.S. as China’s top corn supplier in 2021,” said Dawn Tiura, president at Sourcing Industry Group.
  • Russia and Ukraine are also big suppliers of metals and other commodities, analysts said.
  • While the European Union would be affected by the escalating crisis, Germany would be especially hit.
www.cnbc.com

How a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the 'breadbasket of Europe,' could hit supply chains

From wheat to barley, and copper to nickel, analysts tell CNBC that supply chains are set to be disrupted as the Russia-Ukraine crisis takes a turn for the worse.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
basilio said:
Russia and Ukraine are large suppliers of many critical products. The longer and more destructive this war becomes the higher the risk of food and material shortages across the globe as well as escalating prices.
This analysis explores the question.

How a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the ‘breadbasket of Europe,’ could hit supply chains​

Published Wed, Feb 23 202212:16 AM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 23 20222:26 PM EST

Weizhen Tan@weizent
Share
Key Points
  • Russia is also the world’s top wheat exporter. Together with Ukraine, both account for roughly 29% of the global wheat export market.
  • “China is also a big recipient of Ukrainian corn — in fact, Ukraine replaced the U.S. as China’s top corn supplier in 2021,” said Dawn Tiura, president at Sourcing Industry Group.
  • Russia and Ukraine are also big suppliers of metals and other commodities, analysts said.
  • While the European Union would be affected by the escalating crisis, Germany would be especially hit.
www.cnbc.com

How a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the 'breadbasket of Europe,' could hit supply chains

From wheat to barley, and copper to nickel, analysts tell CNBC that supply chains are set to be disrupted as the Russia-Ukraine crisis takes a turn for the worse.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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To be honest I really don't give a crap whether the west has to pay more for certain commodities as a result of this war...I'm more concerned about the humanitarian crisis that is playing out for millions of Ukrainians,
 
noirua said:
www.foxnews.com

Russian troops aiming to 'mine' nuclear plant to 'blackmail the whole of Europe:' Zaporizhzhia employees

Staff at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Enerhodar sent a message to Ukrainian media and government authorities warning that the Russian troops that took the plant are trying to lay down explosives in order to "blackmail all of Europe."
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
Gannytskyi told Fox News Digital that Ukrainian officials fear that the Russians "can use this fact that they control the nuclear power plant to organize pressure on Ukraine, they can use that station like a big hostage." The workers warned "that they are putting explosive materials near the buildings of the nuclear plant to provide pressure on the Ukrainian army, people."
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I guess Putin's plan will be to use the threat of using the nuclear plant as one massive "bomb" if things don't go his way
 
MovingAverage said:
To be honest I really don't give a crap whether the west has to pay more for certain commodities as a result of this war...I'm more concerned about the humanitarian crisis that is playing out for millions of Ukrainians,
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It won't simply be a matter of higher cost. If the wheat exports from Russia /Ukraine are significantly reduced there just won't be enough wheat/food to go around. :(

I agree however that the humanitarian crisis facing Ukraine is far more concerning. But this particular thread was intended to focus on financial implications of the war.
 
basilio said:
It won't simply be a matter of higher cost. If the wheat exports from Russia /Ukraine are significantly reduced there just won't be enough wheat/food to go around. :(

I agree however that the humanitarian crisis facing Ukraine is far more concerning. But this particular thread was intended to focus on financial implications of the war.
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Understand, but war has far reaching consequences and we will all pay a price one way or the other.

As a matter of interest--does Australian import wheat. I know we export a lot.
 
What happens if Russian oil and gas exports are stopped ?

A Russian oil and gas embargo is in the cards. And analysts warn it will have huge consequences​

Published Thu, Mar 3 20226:57 AM ESTUpdated Thu, Mar 3 20226:46 PM EST

Sam Meredith@smeredith19
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  • Western sanctions imposed on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine have so far been carefully constructed to avoid directly hitting the country’s energy exports.
  • The U.S. has said that sanctions on Russia’s oil and gas flows are “certainly on the table,” but that going after exports now could be counterproductive in terms of raising global energy prices.
  • “If Russia continues to wage this war ... it is only a matter of time before we’re talking about full secondary sanctions on energy exports,” Helima Croft, head of global commodities strategy at RBC, said.
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A Russian oil and gas embargo is in the cards. And analysts warn it will have huge consequences

The U.S. has said the potential for sanctions on Russia's oil and gas flows is "certainly on the table."
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Re: Financial implications, wheat and oil futures have increased in price in response to the war.

Those companies able to secure valuable commodities will be be prized. Speculative plays will probably get demolished as the price of oil will force a response to inflation
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