Victorian Politics

[wayneL]

Celente of The Trends Journal, epic rant about Der Führer. Interesting that the @rshole is so well known overseas.

*Language Warning*

 

[sptrawler]

The really big question from the last post is, if :
The state’s net debt is set to grow from about $135.4 billion by the middle of next year to $171.4 billion by mid-2027. “No one has presided over a program this big that is transforming our transport network,” Allan told ABC radio.

How the hell do they pay for the transition from coal to renewables, how do they pay for the influx of migrants and the public housing required, am I not seeing something? Or is this a train wreck in slow motion?

 

[sptrawler]

Celente of The Trends Journal, epic rant about Der Führer. Interesting that the @rshole is so well known overseas.

*Language Warning*

I don't think that is appropriate, just my opinion, but a step too far. The guy IMO always was strange, but I have a SIL that married a Victorian and she became strange.
I got off a ship in Port Melbourne last year and walked into the city, said hello to passers by and they all looked away, Melbourne is a strange place.
But to slag them off isn't right IMO, they are what they are and it is peoples choice to live there, everyone's different, so be it IMO.

 

[wayneL]

I don't think that is appropriate, just my opinion, but a step too far. The guy IMO always was strange, but I have a SIL that married a Victorian and she became strange.
I got off a ship in Port Melbourne last year and walked into the city, said hello to passers by and they all looked away, Melbourne is a strange place.
But to slag them off isn't right IMO, they are what they are and it is peoples choice to live there, everyone's different, so be it IMO.

I disagree. The rant is about Dan primarily. Apart from those who tried to resist, including some here, the quip about Victorians in general is well deserved.

Gerald can certainly be OTT, but he is spot on here IMO.

 

[wayneL]

I disagree. The rant is about Dan primarily. Apart from those who tried to resist, including some here, the quip about Victorians in general is well deserved.

Gerald can certainly be OTT, but he is spot on here IMO.

Maybe I'm biased though @sptrawler 'cause it pretty much exactly mirrors my frequent rants about our own McStalin and his subsequent henchmen.

 

[Knobby22]

Victorian pollie goes to jail.

Former MP Russell Northe jailed for gambling more than $170,000 of electoral office funds

Former Victorian MP Russell Northe has been sentenced to nearly two years in prison for using more than $170,000 of public money to fuel his gambling addiction.

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

Maybe I'm biased though @sptrawler 'cause it pretty much exactly mirrors my frequent rants about our own McStalin and his subsequent henchmen.

All of our politicians are pushing the boundaries of what the public will accept, eventually people say enough is enough, covid certainly made people more aware.
My sons best mate lost his job, because he refused to have the vaccine, that IMO is a stel too far, time will tell.

 

[farmerge]

Victorian pollie goes to jail.

Former MP Russell Northe jailed for gambling more than $170,000 of electoral office funds

Former Victorian MP Russell Northe has been sentenced to nearly two years in prison for using more than $170,000 of public money to fuel his gambling addiction.

www.abc.net.au

Perhaps just the tip of the iceberg, he was stupid enough to be found out.

 

[Knobby22]

Perhaps just the tip of the iceberg, he was stupid enough to be found out.

I just think he represents society. Caught the gambling bug and acted dishonestly. I have met a few and most politicians are just ordinary people.

He is on suicide watch.

 

[wayneL]

Perhaps just the tip of the iceberg, he was stupid enough to be found out.

Probably a better use of money than what Vic Labor spends it on.

 

[cynic]

Maybe I'm biased though @sptrawler 'cause it pretty much exactly mirrors my frequent rants about our own McStalin and his subsequent henchmen.

Maybe different puppets, but perhaps the same puppeteer.

 

[mullokintyre]

Victoria is well on its way to overspend the budget deficit fior the year.

Sp despite spending almost half the budget deficit in the first quarter, the report reckons the state net debt at the end of the year will actually be lower than forecast.
Do they really believe the crap they dish out?
Mick

 

[farmerge]

Victoria is well on its way to overspend the budget deficit fior the year.
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Sp despite spending almost half the budget deficit in the first quarter, the report reckons the state net debt at the end of the year will actually be lower than forecast.
Do they really believe the crap they dish out?
Mick

Say something often and regularly enough and the peasants will eventually believe it to be gospel.

 

[sptrawler]

Victoria is well on its way to overspend the budget deficit fior the year.
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Sp despite spending almost half the budget deficit in the first quarter, the report reckons the state net debt at the end of the year will actually be lower than forecast.
Do they really believe the crap they dish out?
Mick

Obviously relying on stamp duty, from selling houses to overseas pozi gamblers, I mean investors.

 

[IFocus]

I don't think that is appropriate, just my opinion,

Glad you said this, nasty name calling with derogatory comments about someone's appearance worst still its someone from the US which is riven by this stuff, we don't need it.

 

[farmerge]

Obviously relying on stamp duty, from selling houses to overseas pozi gamblers, I mean investors.

Next we will be hearing that Victoria the rust bucket State will be baying for WA's GST once again.

 

[Knobby22]

Next we will be hearing that Victoria the rust bucket State will be baying for WA's GST once again.

Victoria collects 24.92% of the GST but receives only 22% due to our strong economy. The difference goes to support South Australia, ACT and Northern Territory.

Historically it has been NSW that has complained the most.

We don't want WA's GST but we don't want you guys to take from us as well. We already have 3 states to support.

 

[farmerge]

Victoria collects 24.92% of the GST but receives only 22% due to our strong economy. The difference goes to support South Australia, ACT and Northern Territory.

Historically it has been NSW that has complained the most.

We don't want WA's GST but we don't want you guys to take from us as well. We already have 3 states to support.

I thought WA was supporting every State with out GST past the WA/SA border

 

[Smurf1976]

Victoria collects 24.92% of the GST but receives only 22% due to our strong economy. The difference goes to support South Australia, ACT and Northern Territory.

The actual reason, a cornerstone of federation itself, is simply due to scale of economy.

That is, it costs more per capita to provide services in smaller population states than it does in larger ones, that's the original reason.

In terms of contributing to Australia's overall prosperity however it's a very different story. On a per capita basis WA and Queensland are the economic powerhouses when it comes to exports but beyond that it's not what most would expect. Victoria's the bottom of the heap by a considerable margin - on a per capita basis SA and Tas both outperform it considerably.

The relative performance of the states ultimately has far more to do with federal policy than the states themselves. Change federal policy and we could easily see the present situation reverse, just as today's situation is a reversal of that which existed historically.

I wonder how many Australians realise that there was a time when the nation's third largest city was Adelaide and that even in the relatively recent past, 1990, there wasn't much to separate Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth since all were roughly equal?

It'd shock even more to realise that at one point Tasmania's heavy industrial output ranked third among the states in absolute terms.

Overall the states themselves do have some impact but it's largely federal policy that brings that about. Victoria's trade performance being for the same reasons as SA and Tasmania's relative decline and the growth of WA and Qld - all due to the national economic shift from manufacturing to mining. Mining being a minor industry in Vic and relatively under-represented in SA and Tas where the focus was always more on the refining and processing not digging the hole.

 

[sptrawler]

Spare a thought for Victorians.

Victorian families go backwards at fastest pace in the nation

Households in the state have suffered their biggest financial hit in more than 30 years amid cost-of-living pressures, mortgage pain and soaring population growth.

www.theage.com.au

Victorian families have suffered their biggest financial hit in more than 30 years, with cost of living pressures, mortgage pain and soaring population growth dragging the state’s households backwards at the fastest pace in the nation.
Figures released by the Bureau of Statistics on Tuesday show how much the financial position of the average Victorian household has deteriorated under the burden of soaring interest rates and rising prices.