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I look forward to you providing evidence that metadata retention will help solve crime and protect us against terrorism, especially when the agencies calling for it were unable to provide any. Sydboy 007
You want NOCO to provide evidence to back up a claim against the "scum ?
Seriously ? Seriously !!
It will be cold day in Hades before that dream comes true ..
So that means you are quite happy to give the Muslim radicals and criminals a free reign...Good on you Sydboy....and don't forget the corrupt criminals in the CFMEU.
You might use a mobile phone supplied by Telstra, on Telstra's network, and billed and supported by Telstra. Or your mobile might have been arranged through a commission dealer that refers customers to a reseller that sources services from a sub-wholesaler that itself gets supply from an aggregator that has a master wholesale agreement with Optus.
In the first case, there is just one organisation involved in the service. It owns the network, contracts with the customer, provides and bills the service and holds all the data associated with the whole show. In the second, up to five different players are involved, each with direct access to only part of the big picture.
And the unanswered questions are exactly which of them must record and retain exactly what information, and exactly how much will Canberra contribute to their costs of doing so?
"In many cases, there's clear overlap in the way the law applies, with lots of room for duplicated obligations," Fotheringham muses about the irony of a pro-small-business government being so insensitive to the burden it has placed on junior telcos.
October is coming but the Govt has no idea how data retention is supposed to work
http://www.afr.com/technology/data-...elcos-seeking-crucial-answers-20150601-ghcroy
Remind me again how this unworkable scheme is in the interest of tax payers, the telecommunications industry and it's customers? Sounds like Brandis is still as clear as mud as to how it's supposed to be implemented or work.
Crikey - Don't tell me Kevin Rudd is a misogynist too?
http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...cal-intimidation/story-fn948wjf-1227380496283
It is working...19 arrests have been made of terrorists with evil intentions.....you must behind with the latest news.
We can only hope that Fred Nile will kybosh the whole shebang.
Premier Mike Baird is considering stripping any reference to the availability of ethics classes as an alternative to special religious education from school enrolment forms after being lobbied by faith groups.
Documents reveal Mr Baird's office pushed for changes to the enrolment form be made before the election, despite the education department proposing it happen just after the March 28 poll.
But the government denies it is part of a deal with Christian Democratic Party MP Fred Nile - an opponent of ethics classes - whose support the government needs to pass its electricity privatisation legislation.
The metadata laws haven't come into force. So ah, how could they have helped with the 19 arrests you talk of.
Could you give me a link to those arrests please?
I did not mention meta data as the result of the 19 arrests of radical Muslims...The 19 arrest were made with the Federal Police intelligence over the past 18 months and it was on a news broad cast......I have endeavored to verify it without luck to now but will continue to search.
noco
Re: Useless Labor Party
Quote Originally Posted by sydboy007 View Post
October is coming but the Govt has no idea how data retention is supposed to work
http://www.afr.com/technology/data-r...0150601-ghcroy
Remind me again how this unworkable scheme is in the interest of tax payers, the telecommunications industry and it's customers? Sounds like Brandis is still as clear as mud as to how it's supposed to be implemented or work.
It is working...19 arrests have been made of terrorists with evil intentions.....you must behind with the latest news.
I shudder ti think just where Queensland will be 12 months time with the unions having been handed the keys to Parliament house.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...is_is_a_good_sign_for_the_queensland_economy/
As opposed to the business round a bout in the NSW Liberals
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They must find it confusing to be speaking to someone working for Govt one day, a lobbyist the next.
More jobs for Palaszczuk unions mates......Jobs for the boys.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/28348325/qld-govt-appoints-seven-department-heads/
Good on you, noco, for posting.
As you can see in Vic, it has been disastrous with this Labor/Greens Govt.
Syd, we have had quite a few picked up in Melbourne, ready to attack certain events.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ack-was-imminent/story-fni0cx12-1227347584823
* Those quite a few picked up in Melbourne have been dealt with via existing laws. The proposed data retention laws will at best catch the odd idiot, but are so easy to circumvent it's laughable. It's insanity that we're adding over $1B in extra costs to the telecommunications industry to set the system up and run it for 2 to 3 years, and then the ongoing cost to run it will be in the order of $100-$200m a year. The data stored is so valuable it will be the target of hackers from all over the world. Metadata is your life. Having access to a month or 2 of your metadata can show just about everything you do in your day to day life, who you come into contact with, where you go, how long you spend doing various activities, what the usual route is for you to get to and from work.
The germans are far better at invasive security that we are, owing to the level of knowledge they acquired from the STASI, and they saw their far more draconian data retention laws offer pretty much 0 in terms of solving crime. So why are we saddling our already uncompetitive economy with yet more costs?
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