Useless Labor Party

[noco]

It's obvious you've never understood what the mining tax was for or you'd know that nobody would be paying it now. Speaking of dumb arses.

Labors dumb mining tax cost more to administer than the revenue gained.....Not only that The Green/Labor left wing socialist spent the money they thought they would receive. What dumb arses the Labor Party are

 

[sptrawler]

It's obvious you've never understood what the mining tax was for or you'd know that nobody would be paying it now. Speaking of dumb arses.

That is dead right, also most of the junior miners would be out of business, as they wouldn't be able to raise funding.

Yes great, have a tax that hits a sector with huge exploration and up front capital cost.

If they have a few good years, hammer them, if they are losing money hand over fist just tax them like other businesses.

What a brilliant plan. OMG
Real rabbit out of the hat tax policy. Why only hit miners if they make a 'super profit' what about other companies? why exempt them?
Because dumb Labor, used knee jerk policy, to try and stem the fiscal bleed.

 

[banco]

What a brilliant plan. OMG
Real rabbit out of the hat tax policy. Why only hit miners if they make a 'super profit' what about other companies? why exempt them?
Because dumb Labor, used knee jerk policy, to try and stem the fiscal bleed.

To take the steam out of mining booms so they don't drive the currency up and hollow out the rest of the economy?

 

[noco]

When will the Green/Labor left wing socialist crawl out of their cocoons and begin to realize the necessity to do something about the economy....They have been in denial since the 2013 election and their negative approach to the situation is starting to wear thin with the average Joe Blow...Maybe another boost in the polls for Abbott next week may set a rocket up Shorten or else HIS job maybe on the line instead of Abbott's.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...|section|homepage|homepage&itmt=1425690089592

 

[Smurf1976]

I can tell you from a blue collar background, the Labor Party has been hijacked by chardonay socialists.

I'd argue that the Labor party today is somewhat comparable to what the Liberal party was a generation or two ago in terms of Left versus Right. Meanwhile the Liberals have moved well to the Right with their nastiness and "born to rule" thinking.

The Greens haven't changed greatly though. Lost some of the grassroots aspects yes, but their overall philosophy hasn't really gone to the Right as has occurred with Labor and Liberal.

What Australia desperately needs is good leadership and good policy regardless of who's in power. It's not impossible, and it's not unprecedented to have both unions and the business lobby backing the same side at least at a state level. And if you can get both on side, through sensible policy, well then you're pretty much guaranteed to find yourself in government.

 

[sptrawler]

I'd argue that the Labor party today is somewhat comparable to what the Liberal party was a generation or two ago in terms of Left versus Right. Meanwhile the Liberals have moved well to the Right with their nastiness and "born to rule" thinking.

The Greens haven't changed greatly though. Lost some of the grassroots aspects yes, but their overall philosophy hasn't really gone to the Right as has occurred with Labor and Liberal.

What Australia desperately needs is good leadership and good policy regardless of who's in power. It's not impossible, and it's not unprecedented to have both unions and the business lobby backing the same side at least at a state level. And if you can get both on side, through sensible policy, well then you're pretty much guaranteed to find yourself in government.

The Labor Party today is nowhere near as right winged as the Hawke/Keating government. The Hawke Keating wage accord reduced real wages 20%. That can be easily checked for accuracy.
The government, with the co operation of the unions, reduced wages and conditions, in real terms.
I'm not saying it wasn't necessary, but to ignore the fact it happened is deceptive, the unions and government realised action had to be taken and did it.
They certainly weren't taken to task and abused, as the current government is.

To say the coalition has had a massive step to the right is a bit weird, Malcolm Fraser a couple of decades ago, was one of the most right wing Liberals I've ever had the misfortune to have been a taxpayer under.

People are in for a real shock, if they think the current coalition government is extreme right.
They obviously haven't been through a real recession and been unemployed.

I don't know where you were through the last two recessions smurph, but saying that this government is extreme right wing, would indicate to me you haven't seen extreme right wing.

 

[sptrawler]

To take the steam out of mining booms so they don't drive the currency up and hollow out the rest of the economy?

Well the steam is certainly out of the mining boom, and the mining tax had nothing to do with it. dumb tax policy from a dumb government.
Populist policy to prop up an inept government, absolute dicks, that's why Shortens dribble is failing.

 

[sptrawler]

To take the steam out of mining booms so they don't drive the currency up and hollow out the rest of the economy?

Jeez I mean it is great to be one eyed and parochial banco, but we are going backwards at $50million dollars a day.

Get a grip, that is a really big shortfall, the miners are going broke and unemployment is going up.

It all sounds nice to bag the government for being concerned, I personally am really worried, the economy is hollowed out without the aid of the mining industry.

 

[noco]

Jeez I mean it is great to be one eyed and parochial banco, but we are going backwards at $50million dollars a day.

Get a grip, that is a really big shortfall, the miners are going broke and unemployment is going up.

It all sounds nice to bag the government for being concerned, I personally am really worried, the economy is hollowed out without the aid of the mining industry.

She'll be right SP...when Labor get back in they will fix it and pigs might fly.

The aim of the Green/Labor left wing socialists is to send the country down the gurgler with another huge debt, renege on payment to the Chinese and move to central control.....sounds like another Greece coming up.

 

[sptrawler]

Apparently Labor is concerned about the amount of students dropping out of uni after the first year.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-dropout-rate-if-elected-20150311-141cf5.html

It wouldn't be because they shouldn't have been there in the first place? would it.

No just throw more money at it.

 

[Knobby22]

Apparently Labor is concerned about the amount of students dropping out of uni after the first year.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-dropout-rate-if-elected-20150311-141cf5.html

It wouldn't be because they shouldn't have been there in the first place? would it.

No just throw more money at it.

Yes, or they realise the courses are a waste of time. Some of the most successful people in recent history are Uni dropouts - that facebook guy, that Microsoft guy etc. Imagine if they hadn't left.

 

[noco]

I just listened to an interview between John Faine and Bill Shorten....How anyone could possibly make any sense out of that interview is beyond me.....Shorten was asked some 10 times how he would raise revenue to pay off debt and things like infrastructure, health and education and he evaded the question each time......Shorten wants to be the alternative Prime Minister and he does not have a clue how to handle the finances....


https://soundcloud.com/774-abc-melbourne/who-is-bill-shorten-mornings-with-jon-faine

 

[sptrawler]

I just listened to an interview between John Faine and Bill Shorten....How anyone could possibly make any sense out of that interview is beyond me.....Shorten was asked some 10 times how he would raise revenue to pay off debt and things like infrastructure, health and education and he evaded the question each time......Shorten wants to be the alternative Prime Minister and he does not have a clue how to handle the finances....


https://soundcloud.com/774-abc-melbourne/who-is-bill-shorten-mornings-with-jon-faine

Well the classic comment there noco, was at about the 3.20 point, where the idiot said the mining boom and resource prices have dropped and the mining boom of the last six years is over.

Well they precided over the boom and stuffed it. Talk about digging holes with your mouth, how people can criticise Abbott, when you listen to his dribble is beyond me.

Fairfax needs to watch its step, if they think Bill is their champion.

Great post noco.

 

[noco]

Senator Mitch Fifield on question time in Parliament today......So why have these pair of idiots done a back flip

Bill Shorten has now put Federal Labor in the ludicrous position of supporting Daniel Andrews and the Victorian Government in tearing up contracts for the East West Link, sending shivers down the spine of international investors.

This flies in the face of the sensible comments of his Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen at Press Club speech at the National Press Club in September last year where he said:

“Bill Shorten and I are of one mind, Labor honours contracts. Labor in Government honours contracts entered into by previous governments. Even if we don’t like them for issues of sovereign risk Labor honours contracts entered into by previous governments.”

SHARE if you think Bill Shorten is wrong.
'Bill Shorten today said he opposes the East West Link. Why is he opposing a road that will make life easier for Victorians and create jobs? SHARE if you think Bill Shorten is wrong.'

 

[Tink]

Agree, noco, a backstabber and a backflipper.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...=28524&page=12&p=863542&viewfull=1#post863542

It is true that the Victorian Labor party are divided on the East West Link, was mentioned on 3AW radio station a few days ago.
How I see it, we have been hijacked by the minority Greens.
It was mentioned that Daniel Andrews was contemplating building the second stage.
Of course, everyone has kicked up and said, build it all.

We have had a few well known people come forward through the Grand Prix that want this East West Link saying,

Melbourne reassured the GP contract is binding, and I thought Vic contracts were not worth the paper they were written on

They are not thinking very highly of him.

 

[noco]

We now have a case in Queensland where a school in Fortitude Valley with less than 60 kids was closed in 2013 for economic reasons.

The property is worth some $50 million and Palaszczuk and Kate Jones have decided to retain it.

Are they going to reopen the school or do they fear a back lash on their promise not to sell assets.....It seems to be a secret service with Labor after promising open government.

Typical Labor no plan for the future of this state, no new ideas and no plan on how to reduce the Beattie/Bligh $80 billion debt.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...265427919?sv=8728689aaf50b21320b6f0c193748d30

 

[sptrawler]

In W.A not long ago, Labor and the unions were saying, the new Fiona Stanley hospital couldn't get staff.

Now they are saying there isn't enough parking, they haven't got a problem with staff, just too many.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-30/hames-concedes-fiona-stanley-hospital-problems/6359928

It seems Labor can talk endless $hit, and the media will keep printing it.

Why people buy newspapers, is the next wonder of the world, it is just mindless gossip from self obsessed mushrooms.IMO

 

[sptrawler]

What is with this Billie Gordon issue in Queensland?

The Labor Party say they had no idea, yet there is pictures of him with Rudd years ago.

You would think after the dubious members past, Labor would be a bit more efficient and thorough with their selections.

But then again, when you think about their policy process, I guess any snake oil salesman can get through.

Labor the Party to see you through to retirement. All you need is pre selection.lol

 

[noco]

What is with this Billie Gordon issue in Queensland?

The Labor Party say they had no idea, yet there is pictures of him with Rudd years ago.

You would think after the dubious members past, Labor would be a bit more efficient and thorough with their selections.

But then again, when you think about their policy process, I guess any snake oil salesman can get through.

Labor the Party to see you through to retirement. All you need is pre selection.lol

It will be interesting to see how the Queensland situation with Bill Gordon plats out.

Palaszczuk won the election by default, she did not expect to win and was in shock when she realized she had the Beattie/ Bligh mess on her hands and now she has it, she does not know what to do with it.

I am sure she will be happy to lose a bi-election and hand back the baton to the LNP because it has become all too difficult for her...She says she will put her job on the line and good reason why.

 

[drsmith]

Anna might be hoping to retain Billy Gordon's seat in a by-election on the basis that it's traditionally been a Labor electorate.

I see the Katter outfit is trying to extract its pound of flesh and the campaigning from the majors has already begun in Queensland's far north,

Ms Palaszczuk is visiting Mr Gordon's electorate today and is expected to comment on the letter.

Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg is also in the state's far north.

Earlier, he told the ABC he wanted to hear locals' concerns about the political crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...-second-woman-accuses-mp-billy-gordon/6360860