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SirRumpole said:
Absolutely right, and the even more insidious aspect to this saga is how these allegedly private emails got into the public domain. I doubt if either the sender or the recipient would have released them, so this falls into the black hole of electronic intelligence gathering, not in the cause of national security, but to embarrass one's political adversaries.

Maybe people who had no doubts about the integrity of the security services in regard to protecting personal privacy should think again.
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How the "News of the World" phone hacking scandal is quickly forgotten.

Murdoch and his News Corp rag the NT News should 'put up' the source of the leaked emails or 'shut up'.
 
Macquack said:
"Tony Abbott defends claiming travel expenses for Ironman event"

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...onman-event-20131008-2v58a.html#ixzz3HcimcNkT
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Actually a Prime Minister, or any minister, claiming travel expenses to participate in a physicaly demanding sporting event, should be applauded.
Most of the fat B@stards claim expense for eating or attending as a spectator. Maybe if more of them competed in sporting events it would encourage the general public to get of their ar$es.

It is weird, IMO, that we jump on the only politician that used army barracks as accomodation, rather than buy an investment lodgings. Talk about tall poppy syndrome or inferiority syndrome, who knows which.:D
 
Macquack said:
"Tony Abbott defends claiming travel expenses for Ironman event"

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...onman-event-20131008-2v58a.html#ixzz3HcimcNkT
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Mr Abbott recently said the Pollie Pedal event had raised more than $3 million for charity since it was started in 1998, including this year’s earnings of $750,000 for Carers Australia and $140,000 for the Manly Women’s Shelter. He said he met dedicated carers and spoke of the importance of the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...onman-event-20131008-2v58a.html#ixzz3HcncbHZQ
 
sptrawler said:
Actually a Prime Minister, or any minister, claiming travel expenses to participate in a physicaly demanding sporting event, should be applauded.
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Yeah sptrawler, what if Abbott had not claimed travel expenses, would you give him a knighthood or what?:rolleyes:
 
noco said:

Mr Abbott recently said the Pollie Pedal event had raised more than $3 million for charity since it was started in 1998, including this year’s earnings of $750,000 for Carers Australia and $140,000 for the Manly Women’s Shelter. He said he met dedicated carers and spoke of the importance of the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...onman-event-20131008-2v58a.html#ixzz3HcncbHZQ
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Don't worry noco, McQuack and Rumpole have short term memory loss, they are forgetting the Canberra riot caused by a direct phone call from the P.M's staff.

As McQuack said, "how short memories are"
 
sptrawler said:
Don't worry noco, McQuack and Rumpole have short term memory loss, they are forgetting the Canberra riot caused by a direct phone call from the P.M's staff.

As McQuack said, "how short memories are"
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What has that got to do with Nova Peris, absolutely nothing.
 
SirRumpole said:
Absolutely right, and the even more insidious aspect to this saga is how these allegedly private emails got into the public domain. I doubt if either the sender or the recipient would have released them, so this falls into the black hole of electronic intelligence gathering, not in the cause of national security, but to embarrass one's political adversaries.

Maybe people who had no doubts about the integrity of the security services in regard to protecting personal privacy should think again.
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My understanding from listening to a part of her speech to the senate today is that the emails were leaked by someone who has been blackmailing her over some custody issue. No government involvement. She even thanked members from BOTH sides for their support over the past 24 hours.
 
bellenuit said:
My understanding from listening to a part of her speech to the senate today is that the emails were leaked by someone who has been blackmailing her over some custody issue. No government involvement. She even thanked members from BOTH sides for their support over the past 24 hours.
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Awww come on, can't the head bangers blame Tony, Jeez that's not fair.lol
 
How can the Labor accept this dirty money from these CFMEU thugs who bribe and obtain money through extortion and death threats.

This makes the Labor as corrupt as the CMFEU.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...113794544?sv=add64f117719e66b143a1e04f1bd3296

WHY is Labor taking money from a union buried under allegations of thuggery, blackmail, intimidation, death threats and links to organised crime?

Why did Labor under Julia Gillard agree to get workplace police off the back of this union, the CFMEU?

And why does Victorian Labor under Daniel Andrews still let the CFMEU help decide party policy and candidates?
 
Well said, noco.

I just can't believe Victorians considering voting for them.

Does Andrews even speak? Of course not, the unions speak for him.
 
sptrawler said:
Actually a Prime Minister, or any minister, claiming travel expenses to participate in a physicaly demanding sporting event, should be applauded.
Most of the fat B@stards claim expense for eating or attending as a spectator. Maybe if more of them competed in sporting events it would encourage the general public to get of their ar$es.

It is weird, IMO, that we jump on the only politician that used army barracks as accomodation, rather than buy an investment lodgings. Talk about tall poppy syndrome or inferiority syndrome, who knows which.:D
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That has to be a tongue in cheek post.....:xyxthumbs

The trouble is that there are actually people out there who believe that is it not reprehensible to accept cudos for charity when you are actually selling your services. Equally, because you have less of your snout in a trough, doesn't mean you are feeding any less.

As far as role models go, I doubt more than a handful of people took up running after seeing John Howard doing it and likewise with Abbott I doubt many have taken to walking like Wyatt Earp, holsters on the ready.:rolleyes:
 
Only Labor could have their former icon turning in the box before he's even put down the hole.

The former prime minister is greeted by Malcolm and Tamie Fraser as an usher standing behind Ms Gillard points to vacant red seat.

There is a look of realisation as Ms Gillard sees that the vacant pew is beside the man she deposed from the leadership, and who led to her own political downfall only three years later.

Ms Gillard stands firm, refusing to occupy the bench next to her political nemesis as the seemingly unaware usher continues to direct the former PM to her place.

She doesn't budge until a swap is organised, with Whitlam's former driver Michael Vlassopoulos and his wife stepping in to create a buffer between the pair.
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-gough-whitlams-memorial-20141106-11hu01.html
 

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The following part of a Paul Kelly piece is very scathing indeed.

The risk for Labor in 2016 is looking too similar to the Rudd-Gillard party, with climate change being the prime exhibit, and underestimating Tony Abbott’s ability to sink the ALP by this branding…

Much of the media gives [Bill] Shorten high marks as Opposition Leader for only one reason ”” opinion polls. No assessment is made of Labor’s policy or direction…

Shorten has staged the most comprehensive assault on a budget since Malcolm Fraser’s very different decision in 1975 to reject Labor’s budget and force an election. This will have long-run dangers for the nation.

The forces driving Labor’s tactics are the belief that Rudd-Gillard Labor has nothing for which to apologise, the myth that Labor in office got a raw deal and that Abbott must get a dose of his own medicine, and the judgment that the natural cycle for governments has got shorter…

Labor believes the notion that it left a serious budget repair job is a fraud. This delusion is now embraced as a faith by senior ALP figures.

The party opposes any further increase in the pension age or indexation reform, rejects the principle of a Medicare co-payment, rejects the principle of university fee deregulation, dismisses petrol excise indexation, rejects any industrial relations liberalisation, opposes the move to the one-stop shop to streamline resource sector approvals, opposes in relation to asylum-seekers any boat turn-back policy by pretending it had no impact and rejects any tax reform involving GST changes with an irrational insistence the tax must be frozen thereby putting more of the burden on personal income tax.

Labor had a choice. It could frame policy based on verified fiscal truth ”” the tax base cannot sustain the social benefits Labor loaded on to the budget.

It has chosen, instead, to intensify the hoax it perpetrated in *office and pretend Australians can enjoy the current and projected social benefits consistent with a responsible fiscal outcome and without serious and painful policy adjustment.
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http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg..._itself_pity_us_if_we_believe_those_lies_too/
 
drsmith said:
The following part of a Paul Kelly piece is very scathing indeed.



http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg..._itself_pity_us_if_we_believe_those_lies_too/
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DOC, I was about to post the same link......Paul Kelly sums up Labor very well......Labor is rotten to the core and have no interest in the welfare of this Nation of ours.

If the lefties on ASF keep hounding Abbott about "LIES", I will continue to hound them about their connection to the Fabians who have only one thing in mind and that is to ruin the economy of Australia.....I will continue this attack and hope to hell I can covert some of the naive who swallow the Fabian Green/Labor propaganda and lies.
 
noco said:
DOC, I was about to post the same link......Paul Kelly sums up Labor very well......Labor is rotten to the core and have no interest in the welfare of this Nation of ours.

If the lefties on ASF keep hounding Abbott about "LIES", I will continue to hound them about their connection to the Fabians who have only one thing in mind and that is to ruin the economy of Australia.....I will continue this attack and hope to hell I can covert some of the naive who swallow the Fabian Green/Labor propaganda and lies.
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What proof does Paul Kelly provide that is so compelling that the truth eludes/deludes members of parliament, usually with Labor pollies who has had to battle through a tough terrain to get preselection in the first place and usually have enough brains for tertiary smarts?

I have seen enough figures from dept of finance to also smell a rat, so I'm not convinced the age old practice of forward loading costs onto the previous incumbent, as practiced by incoming CEOs of the private sector, hasn't happened here e.g. Reserve Bank gift that will eventually be brought back as a "saving".

I'm neither a Fabian nor Green or "leftie as far as that goes, but I do believe in social justice, and I do think lies continue to be told. Abbott made the mistake of bare faced lying before he was PM and I can't see he would change given how comfortable he was about core, scripted and other nonsensical excuses for his deceptions.

I do know that (good) friends of mine who would defend the LNP through thick and thin are wondering what the hell is going on and where an inspirational leader is hiding in the mix of can do nothings.
 
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