University killing in USA

robert toms said:

Calm down Bel 352...We only get dial up in our area so I have not got a line open constantly.
Now ,I quickly searched through "Middle East set for disaster' posts and you are right ,as far as I can see you did not advocate bombing Iran.If I did misrepresent what you said ,I unreservedly apologise.
However,I did get the picture of one very aggressive person...pleased with the bombing campaign in Bosnia,aggrieved that the USA had to do the "heavy lifting" in Afghanistan and calling people cowardly.
Do you know how many countries the USA has bombed since WW2?

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bel532 said:

Do you know how many innocent people have been killed by fanatical Muslims in the last thirty years, starting with the Munich Olympics?

I suppose you consider the bombing of Sebrenica by the Americans (because the Euros didn't have the guts) unacceptable? You obviously would have preferred more slaughter of Bosnian Muslims by the Serbs. And the Dutch received medals for their cowardice!

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nizar said:

Bel.
Why cant you just answer the question?

If you dont know, i'll give you a clue, its SEVERAL.
They just done get the same media coverage.

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nizar said:

Bel.
Why cant you just answer the question?

If you dont know, i'll give you a clue, its SEVERAL.
They just done get the same media coverage.

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robert toms said:

Do you know how many countries the USA has bombed since WW2?

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happytown said:

I remember this as being worded slightly differently, however Elbert Hubbard (US author) at least once exclaimed:

"So long as governments set the example of killing their enemies, private citizens will occasionally kill theirs"

cheers

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Wysiwyg said:

How long do you think man has been killing man?

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Wysiwyg said:

The mind is a complex distortion of reality

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"You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today," Cho Seung-Hui said in one of 29 video files included in a package of writings, pictures and videos mailed from Blacksburg where Virginia Tech university is located. "But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.

"Thanks to you I die like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and the defenceless people," he ranted.

The 23-year-old English major appears to be wearing different clothes and filming himself in different locations in the various clips. "I didn't have to do this. I could have left. I could have fled. But no, I will no longer run. It's not for me. For my children, for my brothers and sisters that you (expletive). I did it for them," Cho said on one of the videos.

He also railed against wealthy students: "Your Mercedes wasn't enough, you brats? Your golden necklaces weren't enough, you snobs? Your trust fund wasn't enough? Your vodka and cognac weren't enough? All your debaucheries weren't enough? Those weren't enough to fulfil your hedonistic needs? You had everything.

"Do you know what it feels like to be torched alive? Do you know what it feels like to be humiliated and be impaled on a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement? You have never felt a single ounce of pain your whole life." NBC said it had turned the material over to the FBI.

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2020hindsight said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1900952.htm
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261951
hatred of the wealthy etc etc
not sure how that fits with accusations of photographing girls legs etc under uni desk which incidentally is what one of his lecturers (lady prof) said on PM last night )

presumably a wealthy person can afford to pay someone else to take the photos

I'll let others comment further.
One sick dude.
You're not OK (hence I judge you unworthy to live), I'm not OK (bang)

what a shame he didn't reverse the order
I'm not OK... end of story.

PS I notice he took off his glasses for this photo before his final killing spree - hopefully he missed a few people as a result

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Wysiwyg said:

Interesting 2020 that in a western or "civilised" society that the killing of humans is more newsworthy or shocking than in an (for example) an African nation where life is considered, duh, less important.

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bel532 said:

The reason is obvious. In Africa the massacre, mutiliation and killing of 'innocents' is almost a daily occurence, and, unfortunately, to a certain degree, we become immune to it. Prime examples are :

Ruanda, .

Darfur,

Somalia and, last, but not least

Zambia

It is a very sad fact that, compared to Western countries, the killing of humans on a comparatively large scale is quite common in Africa and to a lesser degree in parts of South America and Asia.

This daily occurence dulls the senses and we assume it is all a part of living in those countries. This is the reason that some people in the West suffer, from what is known as 'aid fatigue', especially in regards to Africa. What has the billions of dollars donated to that continent ever achieved except to line the pockets of brutal dictators?

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Wysiwyg said:

Interesting 2020 that in a western or "civilised" society that the killing of humans is more newsworthy or shocking than in an (for example) an African nation where life is considered, duh, less important.

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Partial list of earthquake dead released. Killed in (1989) San Francisco included Jeffrey Choi, 50; Yuk Lin Lau, 34; Scott Dickinson, 3 1/2 months; Donald McGlinchy, 59; and Diane Laufer, 40. Timothy Moss, 40, of San Francisco, was killed on the Cypress Freeway.

Portland Red Cross chapter shipped bread and other supplies to earthquake victims in San Francisco.

President Bush {senior} arrived at Moffett Field Naval Air Station to tour areas damaged by earthquake. He was briefed by civic leaders, including Mayor Agnos.

...Tass news agency reported that the Soviet government offered to send doctors, geologists and rescue workers to assist with San Francisco earthquake relief.
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October 24, 1989
USGS today revised upward the magnitude of the Oct. 17 earthquake, from 6.9 to 7.1 on the Richter scale, after checking data from 18 seismic stations around the world.

Bank America Corp. shares dropped $1.25 on the New York Stock Exchange on an unfounded rumor that the bank's California and Kearny Street headquarters building was damaged by the earthquake. A bank spokesman said that the structure was not harmed by the temblor and isn't owned by the bank.
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Congress began debate on an earthquake relief bill. "We were hit by ten times the amount of explosive power of World War II, including the atomic bomb," said Rep. Nancy Pelosi, "Please give us a chance to rebuild." A Wisconsin congressman complained that the median home price in San Francisco is $350,000, and Californians don't need help because of their waste and affluence.

First major convention since the earthquake opened at the Civic Auditorium. Don Dowd, spokesman for the Computer-Aided Software Engineering Conference and Exposition said, "Our keynote speaker addressed a full house and our exhibits are open as scheduled, with about 1,500 delegates in attendance. No one here is talking about the earthquake - they're talking about improving their information technology systems."

October 25, 1989
USGS scientists said there was a 50-50 chance that an earthquake big enough to cause more damage will strike during the next two months and urges officials to prepare.

Evangelist Billy Graham toured the Marina District today. "I don't think we can say this earthquake was sent by God," he said. "We have to keep in mind that he is a God of love, mercy. Why this earthquake took place, I can't explain. I can only explain God gives grace, peace, and strength to those who trust in Him."

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TSUNAMI IN ACEH. On 26 December 2004, a 9.1-magnitude underwater earthquake caused a tremendous tsunami that devastated Aceh Province, Indonesia, resulting in the deaths of some 128,715 people (as of 18 April 2005). This tragedy evoked great concern internationally. Governments, multilateral organizations, international, national and local NGOs, religious organizations, ethnic organizations, professional organizations, educational institutions and others have rushed to provide aid to the people of Aceh.

note estimate increased ..."More than 200,000 people were killed when an earthquake beneath the ocean sent giant waves crashing ashore". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4559404.stm

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bel532 said:

This daily occurence dulls the senses and we assume it is all a part of living in those countries. This is the reason that some people in the West suffer, from what is known as 'aid fatigue', especially in regards to Africa. What has the billions of dollars donated to that continent ever achieved except to line the pockets of brutal dictators?

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