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Don't wish this was a stock you had a position in?
I think you just proved moXJO's point.Sounds all good, except for 238,000 deaths from mismanagement by Chump.
He didn't need to start wars abroad, he just created one at home.
The below article popped up in my Google feed. I think it's a good read, and follows on from GG's comments above. Of course, it is just one author's opinion, so you may disagree with it. But it did give me pause for thought.
I've made no secret that I think Trump was unfit to be President, although I acknowledge the opposing viewpoints in this thread - some expressed more cogently than others.
While I am glad Biden won or, more accurately, that Trump lost, this is by no means the end of all things ailing the US, as alluded to in this article.
I'm sure I will disagree with some of Biden's (or Harris's) policies, but if he can assist in transforming the Divided States of America back to the United States of America, I think that would be a big step in the right direction. Perhaps just wishful thinking.
I guess we'll see in 4 (or more) years whether the United States has become the United Socialist States of America, as so many seem to fear.
Hopefully both parties will present and the American people will choose better candidates in 2024 than have been available in 2016 and 2020. Until then, it is what it is.
P.S.: I think I've got politics fatigue, and will likely unsubscribe from this thread and close down Facebook for a good while ?
What wars did Chump man end exactly, not ones he claimed to have ended, real evidence.I think you just proved moXJO's point.
.0what of the population?Sounds all good, except for 238,000 deaths from mismanagement by Chump.
He didn't need to start wars abroad, he just created one at home.
Im sorry did you call out Bidens endless lies ?Hang on Mo Trump kept claiming Obama was born in Kenya and was a Muslim.
It is typical of his time in power, how do keep the position Trump was hard done by in the media?
Are you saying they shouldn't call out his 10,000 to 20,000 untruths?
Should they have been more like FOX (who have called the election for Biden) and just be cringe worthy sycophants?
I think the statement "You’re not going to change the nature of President Trump in these last days" is absolutely true.Too good to miss. Mitt Romney on Trumps Last Stand
Speaking to NBC’s Meet the Press, Romney referred to Biden as “president-elect”, something other Republicans have avoided. But he said he was not even going to try to talk Trump down from his insistence that he won the election.
“You’re not going to change the nature of President Trump in these last days, apparently, of his presidency. He is who he is and he has a relatively relaxed relationship with the truth, and so he’s going to keep on fighting until the very end.”
However, Romney acknowledged the harm the president’s obduracy was doing.
“Look, I know the eyes of the world are on us. The eyes of our own people are on the institutions that we have. The eyes of history are on us,” the Utah senator said.
Republicans back Trump challenge to Biden election victory
President refuses to concede defeat to Joe Biden as Republican allies rally behind himwww.theguardian.com
Again, the main bulk began in the Democrat states. He went above and beyond to provide help to NYC who greatly exaggerated how many ventilators they needed. And it was 10s of thousands surplus. NYC stuffed up big time.Mo,
238K is deaths, are still absolute and not relative, he mismanaged the crisis from day one.
If you don't believe this is relevant, go and talk to all the family members of those that have died.
As for %, I agree, but that is irrelevant, it could have been significantly reduced.
I for one, still believe that Chump got played by China on this subject. He was just the dumb sucker who took the bait and in this case ignore it.
How much as a % of the population. Playing with numbers is fun and all. But they are 9 or 10th on the list for deaths as a % of population. Making out they are the worst in the world is disingenuous." Trump did shut down US borders at the start from China except US citizens. " Incorrect, you need to detail that statement a little more.
Again, the main bulk began in the Democrat states. " Excuses Excuses Excuses
" China exported this to the world for whatever reason. " What did he do about it, except for calling it a name. He had all the resources in the world, to make a stand, and all Chump man could do is call it a name.
"But the numbers are low compared to population. US has some real poverty. I'm surprised it wasn't more considering the freedom they still have from lockdowns. "
Maybe, I to can play with stats, but 238K dead is nearly x5 times the number of Americans that died in the Vietnam war.
So lets play some numbers to put it into perspective.
World War 11, US deaths approx 420K, Population at the time 132M.
So compared to WW11, it is currently less than 1/4 of the deaths adjusted, but the virus has not ended, by the time it is under control, I expect the figure to be around 400K, well still not as bad, but preventable.
Trump could not get cohesive strategy because the divisiveness between Republican and Democrats.
Firstly, don't be a Chump and make things up.Making out they are the worst in the world is disingenuous.
Legislation is a little different to a pandemic.That applies both ways.
Obamacare ?
Obama got elected twice on that mandate.
The Republicans blocked it.
Don't give Trump excuses that you are not prepared to give the other side.
Trying to make a situation appear worse than the numbers suggests looked to me to be exactly what it was. States are important in the decision making. You know, like how Victoria here didn't have scomo sending in the Feds to take over. The state had to handle it. Unfortunately the constitution protects US citizens from tyranny by the state.Firstly, don't be a Chump and make things up.
I did not and never have made out they are the worst in the world.
Repeat, don't be a Chump.
As a highly wealthy and rich nation, they have done appallingly. If you don't think so, go and talk to the 238K dead.
Repeat again, don't be a Chump, you are smarter than that, no need to make things up.
Cloth masks have been shown not to work either.
It is actually probably more dangerous wearing the cloth mask. Depending on handling and disposal in that situation.I will not ask you to provide evidence, I will ask you a simple question:
If you were standing next to someone who has the virus, would you choose to wear a cloth face mask or none at all?
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