TZL - TZ Limited

[Pommiegranite]

Only down 1.67% for the year. Wish I had 50% of my portfolio in it too! Holding up very nicely during this this fearful market.

TZL has 45 million shares approx. Of these only 150k are for sale at any time (which most of are fake anyhow).

As I have said before, TZL is being manipulated for accumulation reasons. The lack of movement over the past 2 weeks is evidence in itself.

TZL is the only stock I hold and am very comfortable with my position.

 

[grace]

Ann out today - Us broker has issued a strong speculative buy on TZL with a target of $15. They say the research is on the TZL website but I can't find it. Any clues.

 

[Roddry]

I assume it is: www.jmdutton.com/research/TZ/index.html

A fairly extensive report done just recently

 

[Pommiegranite]

http://www.duttonassociates.com/research/tz/reports/tzl_report_012208.pdf

Extensive report. However it doesn't tell us anything which we don't know already. It is also very conservative.

Duttons are trying to apply accounting valuations to a spec stock. Hence the low price target of $15. They do however mention in the report that this price target is a floor.

Duttons have not taken into account the recent high volume PO from Larsons. Nor have they taken into account the 90plus customers banging on TZ's door (as told during the AGM).

It is understandable that Dutton's haven't included this, as until POs have been received, they wouldn't want to be seen as a research house which relies on hearsay (even though this information has come from management).

Current SP: $4.47
Dutton's Price target: $15


I would expect that by the next quaterterly research report from Duttons, this price target would be revised to $30+, as a 'Strong buy' as opposed to 'Strong speculative buy'.

 

[shaunm]

After being tipped off on this one, and from reading the previous posts I jumped in to day 4.80 which I thought was going to be the low but finished at 4.75. no probs as the potential for these guys looks awesome especially the home automation and the military.
The pending listing on NASDAQ is exciting. This will be a long term hold for me with top ups along the way. hopefully this will get me back some of the $$ I lost last week when the big sell was on and I panic sold into it

 

[grace]

After being tipped off on this one, and from reading the previous posts I jumped in to day 4.80 which I thought was going to be the low but finished at 4.75. no probs as the potential for these guys looks awesome especially the home automation and the military.
The pending listing on NASDAQ is exciting. This will be a long term hold for me with top ups along the way. hopefully this will get me back some of the $$ I lost last week when the big sell was on and I panic sold into it

Welcome aboard! Thought I was going to win the Jan stock comp with TZL, but 2 announcements still to come, perhaps in Feb. Pommie probably will win this month! Good luck!

 

[shaunm]

Thanks grace.
I noticed you also post on the FER thread. I am also a holder too.
I think it's good to get some other stocks apart from the usual iron ore etc.
These two appear to have a niche market and should hopefully stand well in the not so good times.

Cheers

 

[shaunm]

What is it with all these tiny sales going through!?
How can you do a trade under $500......is there some stock price manipulation going on here??

 

[Pommiegranite]

What is it with all these tiny sales going through!?
How can you do a trade under $500......is there some stock price manipulation going on here??

This article tells all. It is interesting to note that some of these tactics were developed by Credit Suisse, who just so happen to be the underwriters for the NASDAQ float.

http://ftknowledge-executive-educat...g with the help of guerrillas and snipers.pdf

By the way, this small value trading has been going on for months. Now ask yourself, why would anyone go to so much trouble

 

[grace]

What is it with all these tiny sales going through!?
How can you do a trade under $500......is there some stock price manipulation going on here??

YES! There has been for months. Read back posts - especially from Pommie. It happens every day! Someone accummulating!

 

[shaunm]

So I'm assuming that someone is trying to flush holders out with the SP price dropping. I left 2 buy orders open for 2.65 & 2.60 while I was out, thinking I probably wouldn't get it and was amazed to see the price went down even further.

Are any of you other holders getting a bit concerned about the SP dropping every day (it seems like)?

 

[Pommiegranite]

So I'm assuming that someone is trying to flush holders out with the SP price dropping. I left 2 buy orders open for 2.65 & 2.60 while I was out, thinking I probably wouldn't get it and was amazed to see the price went down even further.

Are any of you other holders getting a bit concerned about the SP dropping every day (it seems like)?

Yes very concerned, I suggest you sell asap.

Not wishing to sound rude mate, but you obviously haven't done much research on this company, if any.

Do some research for your own piece of mind before you end up making a serious mistake (even though, buying without having done any research in the first place, is a pretty big mistake in itself)

 

[shaunm]

Mate, I have done my research i.e. read the reports and the site. I usually don't commit 000's unless things look promising.
I thought it would be natural for any shareholder to be a little concerned to see the SP going down for no reason or suspicious reasons; especially after the bloodletting last week??

BTW nice work on the "bolding" of my final line.

I plan to be a long term holder, just sounding off to see if anyone identifies.

Guess I'll have to be particularly careful for fear of any future posts attracting another "smack-down"!?:ald:

 

[grace]

Just read on HC feedback from meeting today. TZL are not going to issue ASX announcements for PO's any more. The reason being that customers do not want competitiors to know what new technology they are embracing. Management said they are hanging onto new orders, but will not be making any announcements. Quarterly reports will obtain some information though. I guess that is fair enough too. I wouldn't want my competitior to know what I was up to either.

 

[grace]

The other interesting note from meeting is that they have hired 36 engineers recently. Things must be starting to move along a bit. ( again sourced from HC)

 

[shaunm]

Just read on HC feedback from meeting today. TZL are not going to issue ASX announcements for PO's any more. The reason being that customers do not want competitiors to know what new technology they are embracing. Management said they are hanging onto new orders, but will not be making any announcements. Quarterly reports will obtain some information though. I guess that is fair enough too. I wouldn't want my competitior to know what I was up to either.

That would have to be a unique approach for a listed company considering that announcements like these do bolster the shareholder ranks.
Are they required to release information as part of the requirements for listing, and would that cause a problem.

It's another roller coaster ride again today, with loads of those small parcels.

 

[Pommiegranite]

That would have to be a unique approach for a listed company considering that announcements like these do bolster the shareholder ranks.
Are they required to release information as part of the requirements for listing, and would that cause a problem.

It's another roller coaster ride again today, with loads of those small parcels.

It is not required that TZ release details of POs. Customers are not happy with specific PO information being released.

A 5% spread on daily lows and highs is perfectly normal for a spec stock.
Get used to it, as in the big scale of what is going to happen, this movement is just a blip.

 

[YELNATS]

Just read on HC feedback from meeting today. TZL are not going to issue ASX announcements for PO's any more. The reason being that customers do not want competitiors to know what new technology they are embracing. Management said they are hanging onto new orders, but will not be making any announcements. Quarterly reports will obtain some information though. I guess that is fair enough too. I wouldn't want my competitior to know what I was up to either.

An interesting business/legal issue as perhaps their customer's competitors view themselves as also potential customers of TZ. Unless there is a solid legal basis for this in place, such competitors who are thereby denied access to TZ's technology could claim a restriction of competitive supply.

Hopefully, though TZ are on top of such matters.

 

[grace]

An interesting business/legal issue as perhaps their customer's competitors view themselves as also potential customers of TZ. Unless there is a solid legal basis for this in place, such competitors who are thereby denied access to TZ's technology could claim a restriction of competitive supply.

Hopefully, though TZ are on top of such matters.

No mention of restricting sale to any customer. Just keeping orders confidential at the request of each customer. (source HC)

 

[prawn_86]

Grace,

In the future it is probably best if your source your info from more reliable areas than straight off of other forums.

thanks