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Trump 2.0

If this works, the world will be changed and a better place. If it fails, it will be more of the same.

It has been tried before, in the 1970's, but the UN failed.

What choice do we have, but to wait and see.

Netenyahoo did a little second look when that was announced. Not sure if he was really in on it.

The Leftards are going to go absolutely bananas on this one.

Two state solution? From the River to the sea? The UN is going to explode.

Haven't seen Bandt throwing a tantrum just yet. Can't wait.
 
Believe his son in law is going to get the best beach location for a development! Win win.
Just got to get rid of the inhabitants. Maybe they could set a Palestinian State in the desert region of Egypt adjacent?

It will be good to see some private money for business development start, might get the Saudi's involved, starting with the royal family.
 
It will be good to see some private money for business development start, might get the Saudi's involved, starting with the royal family.
You reckon the Israeli's would let them? I doubt it.
Plenty of US and Jewish money anyway. Would have thought there would be big profits to be made.

Just saw this:

The Saudi Arabian government, a major US ally and regional power in the Middle East, has released a very strong statement following Trump's press conference, stating a few "non-negotiables" on the status of Gaza.
  • It rejects any attempts to displace Palestinian people from their land.
  • It will not establish formal relations with Israel without the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
  • The support of such a state is "firm and unwavering" and is not be interpreted otherwise.
 
The Leftards are going to go absolutely bananas on this one.

TBH its the conservatives that are going nuts over it, they remember the consequences of war in the middle east.

You would have to be a cult follower to believe it, if it happens then Australian lives will be likely lost supporting another bad adventure in the middle east.

Irony is we still get hammered by the Trump tariffs
 

I reckon nothing, I wait and see before making assumptions.

So far, we have heard that Trump's tariffs were going to kill the world economy, then we see that Canada and Mexico negotiated a deal.

We heard that if Trump won the presidency the end of the world was nigh, instead we have seen orderly transition, and the promises made during the election process are now being implemented.

I will comment, but I will not assume on what will happen during the negotiation phases.
 
I am sure there is clever way out of this.
For instance, Israel takes the best land to the north to build the resort and provides new 30 storey apartment living for the Gaza dwellers (my friend says there are no such thing as Palestinians) over a much smaller area.

You can put parkland on top of these buildings nowadays so it won't be that cramped. They might be able to see the sea from the top. And if they revolt, it will be over far more quickly.
 

Everyone should be going nuts on this one, it's way out of the box. But, the Left will be particularly rabid.
 
So far, we have heard that Trump's tariffs were going to kill the world economy, then we see that Canada and Mexico negotiated a deal.

Unless there is further movement what's been announced mostly was already agreed to last year under Biden.

So what is the point other than ego grandstanding?

Problem with Trump and more so with his administration is when you cannot measure the risk then the risk is open ended i.e. extreme.

How can companies commit capital under those circumstances?
 

I don't know, and these are issues that no one outside of the USA can have any influence on.

As for companies having difficulty committing capital, well there has been no major capital investment from companies for the past 3 or 4 years. They can't compete with governments throwing vast amounts of money at every vote buying exercise available.



 
“You have to learn from history, you just can’t let it keep repeating itself,” Trump said. “I don’t want to be cute, I don’t want to be a wise guy, but ‘the Riviera of the Middle East.’” Trump, a longtime global property developer, said he wanted it to be done “world-class” and said a future development could be “so magnificent.”


 
I have misjudged Mr Donald Trump.
I thought with almost absolute power he would make decisions, get things done for good or bad and change the world.

I now realise he is just a thought bubble man. Nothing is going to happen. Tariffs to Canada and Mexico, Gaza, etc.

And now with poor Rupert forced to listen and smile, a sovereign fund.
It's purpose? To buy TikTok.
And how is it going to be funded?
"By tariffs and other smart things".

As this article says, What was Rupert Murdoch really thinking?

 
I have misjudged Mr Donald Trump.
I thought with almost absolute power he would make decisions, get things done for good or bad and change the world.


Hahaha no you didn’t, every post you wrote about Trump, before this comment, proves it.
 
I am still sitting on the fence with Trump.
He has certainly upended politics, which is to be applauded.
Watching some of the Liberals blowing up is always a good laugh.
His expose of the corruption that is endemic in US orgs like USAID, and in international ones like UNRWA, the WHO etc can only be a good thing.
His use of Tariff threats has indeed forced both Mexico and Canada into doing something about their porous borders.
Or maybe his quid pro quo with Ukraine where if you want our money, give us your rare earths in exchange.
the fact that so many of those rare earth deposits are now in the hands of Russian forces is but a small detail.
Its all in the art of making a deal, somewhat like the ambit claims that Unions put out to business safe in the knowledge that they will not get those claims, but the bosses will have to give them something.
His imbecilic idea that he could buy Greenland, or take ownership of the Panama Canal, and now Gaza is ridiculous.
Perhaps he has some negotiating trick up his sleeve time will tell.
But he promised to get US troops out of countries in which they don't belong (which is every country other than America) seems rather hollow.
Like his promise to close Gitmo, now he wants to send illegals who have committed felonies to Gitmo.
At the end of the four years, will the positives outweigh the negatives?
I don't really have much hope.
mick
 
The legal barrier to President Trump, a former real estate mogul, is the UN, whose charter prohibits the threat or use of force to transfer a population and calls for respect for the sovereignty of other states.
The Ottoman Empire, the last sovereign entity to legally own the territory, ceded ownership of Gaza via the Treaty of Lausanne, signed in 1923.

 
Yeah , well that did not stop the Russians in Ukraine, did not stop the Chinese in Tibet, or potentially in Taiwan, did not stop Indonesia in East Timor or West Papua, the Israelis in West Bank , Gaza and few other hotspots.

The UN is just another boondoggle for bureaucrats to wallow in their own self importance and scm money from countries stupid enough to pay them.
Mick
 
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