Trump 2.0

[Sean K]

If this works, the world will be changed and a better place. If it fails, it will be more of the same.

It has been tried before, in the 1970's, but the UN failed.

What choice do we have, but to wait and see.

Netenyahoo did a little second look when that was announced. Not sure if he was really in on it.

The Leftards are going to go absolutely bananas on this one.

Two state solution? From the River to the sea? The UN is going to explode.

Haven't seen Bandt throwing a tantrum just yet. Can't wait.

 

[JohnDe]

Believe his son in law is going to get the best beach location for a development! Win win.
Just got to get rid of the inhabitants. Maybe they could set a Palestinian State in the desert region of Egypt adjacent?

It will be good to see some private money for business development start, might get the Saudi's involved, starting with the royal family.

 

[Knobby22]

It will be good to see some private money for business development start, might get the Saudi's involved, starting with the royal family.

You reckon the Israeli's would let them? I doubt it.
Plenty of US and Jewish money anyway. Would have thought there would be big profits to be made.

Just saw this:

The Saudi Arabian government, a major US ally and regional power in the Middle East, has released a very strong statement following Trump's press conference, stating a few "non-negotiables" on the status of Gaza.

• It rejects any attempts to displace Palestinian people from their land.
• It will not establish formal relations with Israel without the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
• The support of such a state is "firm and unwavering" and is not be interpreted otherwise.

 

[IFocus]

The Leftards are going to go absolutely bananas on this one.

TBH its the conservatives that are going nuts over it, they remember the consequences of war in the middle east.

You would have to be a cult follower to believe it, if it happens then Australian lives will be likely lost supporting another bad adventure in the middle east.

Irony is we still get hammered by the Trump tariffs

 

[JohnDe]

You reckon the Israeli's would let them? I doubt it.
Plenty of US and Jewish money anyway. Would have thought there would be big profits to be made.

Just saw this:

The Saudi Arabian government, a major US ally and regional power in the Middle East, has released a very strong statement following Trump's press conference, stating a few "non-negotiables" on the status of Gaza.

• It rejects any attempts to displace Palestinian people from their land.
• It will not establish formal relations with Israel without the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
• The support of such a state is "firm and unwavering" and is not be interpreted otherwise.

I reckon nothing, I wait and see before making assumptions.

So far, we have heard that Trump's tariffs were going to kill the world economy, then we see that Canada and Mexico negotiated a deal.

We heard that if Trump won the presidency the end of the world was nigh, instead we have seen orderly transition, and the promises made during the election process are now being implemented.

I will comment, but I will not assume on what will happen during the negotiation phases.

 

[Knobby22]

TBH its the conservatives that are going nuts over it, they remember the consequences of war in the middle east.

You would have to be a cult follower to believe it, if it happens then Australian lives will be likely lost supporting another bad adventure in the middle east.

Irony is we still get hammered by the Trump tariffs

I am sure there is clever way out of this.
For instance, Israel takes the best land to the north to build the resort and provides new 30 storey apartment living for the Gaza dwellers (my friend says there are no such thing as Palestinians) over a much smaller area.

You can put parkland on top of these buildings nowadays so it won't be that cramped. They might be able to see the sea from the top. And if they revolt, it will be over far more quickly.

 

[Sean K]

TBH its the conservatives that are going nuts over it, they remember the consequences of war in the middle east.

You would have to be a cult follower to believe it, if it happens then Australian lives will be likely lost supporting another bad adventure in the middle east.

Irony is we still get hammered by the Trump tariffs

Everyone should be going nuts on this one, it's way out of the box. But, the Left will be particularly rabid.

 

[IFocus]

So far, we have heard that Trump's tariffs were going to kill the world economy, then we see that Canada and Mexico negotiated a deal.

Unless there is further movement what's been announced mostly was already agreed to last year under Biden.

So what is the point other than ego grandstanding?

Problem with Trump and more so with his administration is when you cannot measure the risk then the risk is open ended i.e. extreme.

How can companies commit capital under those circumstances?

 

[JohnDe]

Unless there is further movement what's been announced mostly was already agreed to last year under Biden.

So what is the point other than ego grandstanding?

Problem with Trump and more so with his administration is when you cannot measure the risk then the risk is open ended i.e. extreme.

How can companies commit capital under those circumstances?

I don't know, and these are issues that no one outside of the USA can have any influence on.

As for companies having difficulty committing capital, well there has been no major capital investment from companies for the past 3 or 4 years. They can't compete with governments throwing vast amounts of money at every vote buying exercise available.

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[JohnDe]

“You have to learn from history, you just can’t let it keep repeating itself,” Trump said. “I don’t want to be cute, I don’t want to be a wise guy, but ‘the Riviera of the Middle East.’” Trump, a longtime global property developer, said he wanted it to be done “world-class” and said a future development could be “so magnificent.”​

Five takeaways from the Trump-Netanyahu press conference

President Donald Trump hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House on Tuesday for the first bilateral press conference and Oval Office meeting with a foreign leader of his second term.
Here were the top takeaways on the Middle East:

Future for Israel and developing Gaza​

Trump, likening Gaza to a demolition site, repeated his sentiments from earlier in the day that millions of Palestinians should leave Gaza for neighbouring countries, perhaps permanently, doubling down on a proposal that has been rejected by Arab countries and the Palestinians themselves.

“The US will take over the Gaza Strip … level the site, get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area,” Trump said at the press conference.

Trump also didn’t rule out sending US troops to the Gaza Strip. During his meeting with Netanyahu ahead of the press conference, Trump called for Palestinians to be permanently relocated out of Gaza, which he has described as “hell.” Trump said the developments in surrounding nations will result in “thousands of jobs and they’ll be jobs for everyone, not just a specific group of people but jobs for everyone.”

“I have a feeling that the king in Jordan and the general in Egypt will open their hearts and give us the kind of land that we need to get this done,” Trump said.

‘Riviera of the Middle East’​

Trump said he envisioned a redeveloped Gaza Strip, where people from all nations lived, including Palestinians. He said the current situation, with both Israel and Palestinians seeking to live in the area, was unsustainable – as evidenced by the fighting for the past year. Asked if that meant he didn’t support a two-state solution, Trump said: “It doesn’t mean anything about a two-state or one-state or any other state, it means that we want to give people a chance at life because the Gaza Strip has been a hell hole.”

“You have to learn from history, you just can’t let it keep repeating itself,” Trump said. “I don’t want to be cute, I don’t want to be a wise guy, but ‘the Riviera of the Middle East.’” Trump, a longtime global property developer, said he wanted it to be done “world-class” and said a future development could be “so magnificent.”

More pressure on Iran​

Trump said that the two world leaders would continue to push back against Iran developing nuclear weapons by “enforcing the most aggressive possible sanctions” to drive Iran’s oil exports “to zero.” Trump said that without oil purchases, Hezbollah would become weakened. Trump took credit for weakening Iran during his first term, and on Tuesday signed a memorandum reimposing tougher policy on Iran.

Trump said that he “hated doing it” but that it needed to be done to restrict terrorism.

“They cannot have a nuclear weapon, it’s very simple.”

“We’re both committed to rolling back Iran’s aggression in the region and ensuring that Iran never develops a nuclear weapon,” Netanyahu said.

What’s next for ceasefire​

The meeting between Trump and Netanyahu comes at a critical moment for the Middle East. Negotiations for a second phase of the ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas are expected to begin soon.

Trump said that he hopes the delicate ceasefire in place between Hamas and Israel holds.

“I’m hopeful that this ceasefire could be the beginning of a larger and more enduring peace that will end the bloodshed and killing once and for all,” Trump told reporters. He said that he was working to build American strength in the region, and noted that the US on Tuesday withdrew from the United Nations Human Rights Council and ended support for the UN Relief and Works Agency.

No love lost for Biden​

Both leaders offered digs – some implied, others overt – at former President Joe Biden.

Trump, with Netanyahu occasionally nodding alongside him, blamed his predecessor Joe Biden for “not so many victories in the past four years, ” saying that “the horrors of October 7 would never have happened if I were president.” Netanyahu, in response, called Trump “the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House,” noting that in his first term, Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv and brokered the Abraham Accords, which established diplomatic relations between Israel, Bahrain and the Emirates.

Moving to Trump’s second nascent presidency, Netanyahu spoke of the recently brokered ceasefire – and Trump’s decision to send a supply of 2000-pound bombs to Israel that Biden had held back.

“Ladies and Gentlemen, all this in just two weeks,” Netanyahu said. “Can you imagine where we’ll be in four years?”

Dow Jones

 

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