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Well the issuers of the MBS are supposed to back the financial product!
The FED are merely just the investor! Buying the asset on behalf of the American people!
The Fed. effectively nationalised the two GSEs. As I remember, over time, they turned a profit as RE values rose. However the point is that the Fed. (unlike private enterprise) can hold so called 'toxic' investments and absorb the loss (yes the taxpayer). Is it right? No. But (for the moment) that is the reality.
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duc
There is no free lunch Mr Duc.
The bill always falls due, as I have said from the start of our discussion.
If I worked in congress, intel, treasury; I would be asking the FED; where is the return for the MBS asset purchases?
Don't tell me the FED are buying toxic rubbish on behalf of the American people; Jay might end up in jail for treason!
An act of betraying the nation; a very fine line Jay is walking now.
Well I never stated that the Fed. was buying/investing for US public. That was you.
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What the Fed. is currently engaged in is illegal (outside of the 1913 Act), but it is not 'treason'. Will he ever be prosecuted? I very much doubt that.
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duc
So the FED are bankrupting the entire American nation for the sake of a fraction of the people! End of story!
A criminal offense, close to the words of treason.
The problem with wide sweeping generalised statements is that almost invariably they are either wrong or so lacking in the specifics as to be virtually worthless.
Is the Fed. 'bankrupting' (making insolvent) the US? Where are your arguments and evidence to support the allegation?
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duc
"Chronos-Plutus,
1. The FED invest for listed banks, that is it.
2.I suppose that the USA are lucky at the moment that these listed banks don't have a private army; if it gets to it.
3. The FED is outside its mandate; 3(a) and must be brought into line to protect the longevity of the USA.
4. That is my opinion. I will say no more on this topic, as I am not an American citizen and I am not directly employed by the American government.
1. Incorrect.
2. I have no idea what you are talking about.
3. True. 3(a) More likely that the mandate will be amended.
4. Fine.
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duc
My comments about the FED are not merely allegations, they are fact. The FED provide the evidence.
1. The FED are known clients of JP Morgan and Goldman.
2. If you don't know now, well you will never know.
3. The FED is a cooked goose.
4. Agreed.
You will have to excuse my scepticism. You cannot even state accurately what the Fed. actually does. I have absolutely no confidence in accepting your assertion of the facts.
Please don't post some half-wit on a youtube video as evidence.
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duc
1. Known by whom and evidenced how?
2. Well clearly I don't know and it would seem that you have no explanation.
3. So you say, but always without any argument or evidence.
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duc
1. I think you know that answer. Ask your mate Mr Fly; which bank buys assets on behalf of the FED?
2. The FED don't have a military to control the printing presses. The USA government do.
3. The FED are cooked, unless little Jay awakes from his induced coma of servitude to the listed banks and actually starts working for the government of the USA.
Either way it is not our problem; we are not employed by the government of the USA and we are just investors and traders.
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