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Trading The SPI - NON-Gann Techniques

Stopped out... and not a convincing WC... yet??
 

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Gee guys I'm struggling to trade this strength. Looks to far gone to get in on the long side. Been burnt trying to short it. All i can seem to do today is scalp the bid/ask. Not much fun :confused:

hi TH - something I've noticed with SPI gap opens - often if it hasn't made a decent attempt at a retrace within the first 30-45 mins or so you'll get a trending day. can be a frustrating grind if you get stuck trying to fade it.
 
hi TH - something I've noticed with SPI gap opens - often if it hasn't made a decent attempt at a retrace within the first 30-45 mins or so you'll get a trending day. can be a frustrating grind if you get stuck trying to fade it.

Yep. I have a trade setup that is based on the opening range in relation to the overnight action. Which was triggered on today's open, only trouble is when it gaps up 3% its a bit hard to think its going to 5%
 
hi TH - something I've noticed with SPI gap opens - often if it hasn't made a decent attempt at a retrace within the first 30-45 mins or so you'll get a trending day. can be a frustrating grind if you get stuck trying to fade it.
I've noticed the same thing while paper trading. Fade plays being one of my main strategies.

I know people fade back to S3, R3 or Cramer, but I'm going to look at the probability limits of filling gaps on opens. Has anyone previously done a similar thing?

I'll let you know when I eventually get around to it.

Cheers,
Chops.
 
I've noticed the same thing while paper trading. Fade plays being one of my main strategies.

I know people fade back to S3, R3 or Cramer, but I'm going to look at the probability limits of filling gaps on opens. Has anyone previously done a similar thing?

I'll let you know when I eventually get around to it.

Cheers,
Chops.

hi Chops - would be interested to hear what you find out. I haven't done any detailed study on it yet either but % retrace to gap fib levels is one thing I'll be looking at at - as well as to fib extensions on the gap.

fibs, % gap open, where the gap fits in the overall action etc - all important but not as important as the price action in the first few minutes in my opinion
 
If this plays out I guess we might end the day pretty flat??
Cheers
........Kauri
 

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interesting the difference between the cash chart & your all sessions chart Kauri - cash it looks as though we were still in 4 later in the day yesterday, & now moving up into 5

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interesting the difference between the cash chart & your all sessions chart Kauri - cash it looks as though we were still in 4 later in the day yesterday, & now moving up into 5

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Hi Edwood..
very interesting... I'm trading off the IG Markets platform.. don't know if it ties up with your cash chart???
Just pyramided into my original long on todays chart.. second trade not looking too flash at the moment... :(
Cheers
..........Kauri
 

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Any thing but GANN Daz. Going on my trend line theme its interesting to note that although the ASX 200 broke through this bull trend line the DJI did not,also the long trend line which started 1982 is still holding with the DJI. porkpie
 
hi Dazt49, welcome to the thread

there's a mix of stuff pops up on the thread really, price action, pivots, support & resistance, trend following, patterns, fibs (quite a few fibs from time to time! :)), & some use time as well

Kauri is using something called an Elliott Wave method to count the waves of price action, which basically splits moves down into impulsive and corrective action - EW aims to identify the next "likely" course of action
 
yours will look totally different Kauri - the cash chart is only showing normal session so misses all the out of hours. so mine is probably more relevant to the XAO thread really
 
yours will look totally different Kauri - the cash chart is only showing normal session so misses all the out of hours. so mine is probably more relevant to the XAO thread really

Hi Edwood,
Ok, sorry about posting in the wrong thread.. :eek: I'll fade away and maybe find a thread thats more relevant.. :) Good trading to all
Cheers
..........Kauri
 
Thanks guys.
I always take XJO and the DOW into account with trading my decisions.
I havent traded the xjo as yet.
Will watch with interest.
 
Hi Edwood,
Ok, sorry about posting in the wrong thread.. :eek: I'll fade away and maybe find a thread thats more relevant.. :) Good trading to all
Cheers
..........Kauri

I would think what you are trading is linked to the SPI. would certainly have to be for the out of hours prices.
 
Hi Edwood,
Ok, sorry about posting in the wrong thread.. :eek: I'll fade away and maybe find a thread thats more relevant.. :) Good trading to all
Cheers
..........Kauri

no no Kauri, I think we've got some wires crossed - MINE should be on XAO :D

I just stuck a cash chart up here to flag that counts on a cash chart can be completely different to counts on all-sessions SPI. Some people only count cash charts to avoid the out-of-hours mess. I'm not saying one is better than the other its just that some people have a preference either way
 
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