Too good to be true

basilio · 25 July 2013

Trembling Hand said:
Actually no. Thats the way it works. You don't want smart people you want dumb and desperate. You get the desperate by putting some rubbish out there with big claims and then filter out all but the really dumb with poor delivery. It is actually a very smart tactic by scammers because if you had smart people making inquires you would waste a lot of time trying to sway them but ultimately be unsuccessful. But if you can get a larger than normal percentage of idiots making enquires you efforts will be more rewarded.

That is why Nigerian scam emails have such poor gamma and sentence structure. Educated people read it and it turns them off. Idiots read it and see nothing unusual. Its Brilliant. And its scammer 101.

Fascinating !! Never thought about that particular aspect of Nigerian scams. It does make sense in that context.

But.... what about the phishing scams which try to persuade you to respond to a bogus email from a bank ect to trick you into clicking onto a link that will corrupt your computer . I would assume that those scammers would not be deliberately making errors. After all they want as many people as possible to just click onto the link for a refund/whatever.

Thoughts ?

Boggo · 25 July 2013

On the subject of scammers, one less mob but where one gets put away another pops up I guess.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...30m-racket-jailed-25-years-Florida-court.html

stefan1 · 25 July 2013

Hello again.This is the swedish nigerian conman again.If everyone is over this by know,I know I am.I was suppose to follow my first question with another.My situation is as follows.After selling our buisnesses 2.5 years ago we been living from bank interest only.This is after being screwed by an f/p big way.Now my accountant suggested us to use a bankbloke that is charging 1% when buying shares only no fee when selling.does this sound ok or it's another screw up.it involves my smsf 1/3 of it.My smsf is 1/3 of my capital.The rest is still invested as cash for another 2 months.Any inputs would be much appreciated (G/w dont bother).Cheers from a bad spelling swede.

Trembling Hand · 25 July 2013

Commsec cost per trade,

Share trades over the Internet. $29.95 up to $10,000 transaction value 0.31% (above $10,000)
Share trades over the phone $59.95 up to $10,000 transaction value 0.52% (up to $25,000)

From,
http://www.comsec.com.au/

burglar · 25 July 2013

stefan1 said:
Hello again. ... Cheers from a bad spelling swede.

Hello again,

Best thread for newbies, by Sir Osis, is here:
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14370

The reason I direct you to this thread is due to references to behaviour by banks.
I am not inferring you are a newbie ... nor a Nigerian bank-hater! :

pixel · 26 July 2013

stefan1 said:
Hello again.This is the swedish nigerian conman again.If everyone is over this by know,I know I am.I was suppose to follow my first question with another.My situation is as follows.After selling our buisnesses 2.5 years ago we been living from bank interest only.This is after being screwed by an f/p big way.Now my accountant suggested us to use a bankbloke that is charging 1% when buying shares only no fee when selling.does this sound ok or it's another screw up.it involves my smsf 1/3 of it.My smsf is 1/3 of my capital.The rest is still invested as cash for another 2 months.Any inputs would be much appreciated (G/w dont bother).Cheers from a bad spelling swede.

1%???
You've got to be kidding! The going rate for online trades is 0.1% plus GST, with a minimum fee as low as 10 bucks in some cases. Westpac charge me $19.95 for trades under $20,000 worth; above that it's 0.11% of the trade value. D2MX are about the same; they will even let you buy or sell in smaller bites, as long as the entire trade (same stock, same direction) is finished within a day.

The difference between the two:
D2MX require you to subscribe to a software and data service - arguably one of the best T/A tools, but comes of course at a cost.
Westpac's support website is more F/A oriented and more basic - but then again: simpler as well.
Paritrade are similar to D2MX, at a minimum cost of $25 per trade; their PULSE software is also right up there.

(I've switched from Commsec to Paritrade several years ago when it was chalk and cheese. Can't say anything about Commsec's current offering because I haven't looked at it again. Ditto ANZ's E*Trade and others.)

Websites to explore:
https://onlineinvesting.westpac.com.au/LoginRequired.aspx
http://www.traderdealer.com.au/
http://www.paritech.com.au/

for a more extensive, though still not exhaustive, list you can check out this page on my website:
http://rettmer.com.au/TrinityHome/Links/index.htm

Happy Researching

too easy · 22 September 2013

Thanks Stefan1.

I've searched long and hard for an investment to be this good.
Next month looks good to go!
By chance you didn't work in Kal? Cat? Force etc???

too easy · 22 September 2013

Joe Blow said:
Stefan, the problem is that many people register at ASF with the sole intention of spamming a product or service. I spend a lot of time and energy implementing anti-spam measures to combat it, but it remains a huge problem. Please see any distrust as a healthy scepticism, rather than an attack on you personally.

I honestly can't work out whether you are spamming this product or genuinely enquiring about it, so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think the latter is more likely than the former, but I understand the scepticism nonetheless.

I think much of the problem is the way you titled this thread. A question mark would have done wonders. It is easy for others to make the mistake of thinking that you are promoting this "investment" as being "to good to be true" based on your thread title.

Great reply MR Admin.
The title should have been SAFE WORLD TV etc.....
Ive done alot of research and this is the only online forum chat site talking about it.
This monster has become to big to be a scam. IBS Safe World is programing and developing it and alot of people by word of mouth are investing in it.
Hence ive just signed up to make a comment and to get some real feed back.
The good news is this internet system will eliminate scam artists full stop...........
Like 80% of your member on this forum.

Country Lad · 22 September 2013

stefan1 said:
Now my accountant suggested us to use a bankbloke that is charging 1% when buying shares only no fee when selling.

You can get that rate from a full service broker which gives you access to all their research as well as book builds for share issues which are not available to Joe Public and advice as you need it.

Then of course if you don't need that, internet trading is a whole lot cheaper as others have said.

Cheers
Country Lad

sydboy007 · 22 September 2013

I remember reading an article that said up to 30% of those surveyed had responded to a spam email.

I always thought it would be a fraction of a %, but even that is a huge amount, but to think that anything like 30% of people have responded to spam is scary. Argh. No wonder something like 70%+ of email is spam with that kind of marketing success

too easy · 20 March 2014

I would like to kick off this Thread again.

SWTV is at the stage where it needs to sell another one million shares at $5 each.
More capital is needed to complete testing, then release it to the public & finally IPO onto the US Stock market.
The system is in BETA Testing mode with proof of concept completed.

Anyone looking to invest in this private company doing big things on a small budget please watch the below links and get on board.

http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream2/
http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream3/

Joe Blow · 21 March 2014

too easy, you are getting close to crossing the line in your promotion of this company.

Please note that the Aussie Stock Forums Terms of Use clearly states, "Securities cannot be offered to you for sale or issue through posts on Aussie Stock Forums."

I should also point out that encouraging people to "get on board" may constitute unlicensed financial advice, which is illegal in Australia.

Porper · 21 March 2014

too easy said:
The good news is this internet system will eliminate scam artists full stop...........
Like 80% of your member on this forum.

Too Easy, you are thinking of a different forum...where 80.0% are rampers.

Get a few on here like you but generally ASF is good at eliminating them. With a bit of luck
you'll be the next to get banned.

Trembling Hand · 21 March 2014

too easy said:
I would like to kick off this Thread again.

SWTV is at the stage where it needs to sell another one million shares at $5 each.
More capital is needed to complete testing, then release it to the public & finally IPO onto the US Stock market.
The system is in BETA Testing mode with proof of concept completed.

Anyone looking to invest in this private company doing big things on a small budget please watch the below links and get on board.

http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream2/
http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream3/

LOL what an absolute joke. "Safeworlds is worth the same as Google"

This guy and his two bob graphics .

Just cracked me up.

VSntchr · 21 March 2014

Is that Gus Gould, or perhaps a relative!?

Joe Blow · 21 March 2014

Porper said:
Get a few on here like you but generally ASF is good at eliminating them. With a bit of luck
you'll be the next to get banned.

Sometimes I leave threads like this open just for the entertainment value, as long as they don't go too far.

The financial markets can get a bit serious at times, so it's nice to have some occasional comic relief.

Trembling Hand · 21 March 2014

Joe Blow said:
Sometimes I leave threads like this open just for the entertainment value, as long as they don't go too far.

The financial markets can get a bit serious at times, so it's nice to have some occasional comic relief.

Seriously have a look at these scammers.

"First I asked God for the biggest job he had. Then, to my surprise, I found my mind filled with the question, OK, what do you want to do? And for some strange reason, I said, I want to know the truth."

"I then went on the say, if you're listening God, I don't care how long it takes; I don't care what I have to do; I don't care what it costs; if you will show me your truth, then I will follow."

"The next thing 'He' said to me was: go and read the Bible; which I did; and nine years later, after many, many hours of research; and many, many truly amazing conversations with God; in November 1999, I saw Universal Logic for the first time."

Alan said that it was not until about three years into his research that he realized that the truth he was searching for in the Bible was also the key to what he was looking for to do global e-business.

"When I realized that the Greeks called Jesus Logos, the personification of logic, and that the problem I was trying to solve in computerization was one of logic, it all started to come together for me."

"I then realized that the Bible was a coded message. It is not a history book, but a mathematically perfect scientific document that explains the creation of the human mind (enlightenment) and its voyage through time to achieve its divine purpose.

artist · 21 March 2014

Trembling Hand said:
Seriously have a look at these scammers.

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HaHa T/H, you just beat me to it. I was about to suggest that this thread would be more appropriately treated as one of the religious threads.

pixel · 21 March 2014

Thanks guys, Joe in particular
To a devout Skeptic, it's hard to beat the latest contributions for entertainment value and hilarity

trainspotter · 21 March 2014

VSntchr said:
Is that Gus Gould, or perhaps a relative!?

I dunno but his face rings a bell? I am sure I had dinner with this guy at Peter Fosters house around 1995?

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