Too good to be true

[trainspotter]

Your a funny guy Trainspotter, i got little chuckle out of that.

Yes Wikipedia is a great source of information. Difference is i quoted it to back up a fact, whereas you quoted a science fiction movie.

Regards,

crestzest

Science fiction ?? Have you not heard of the NSA ? Edward Snowden ring a bell? Anyhooo you want to be specific in relation to the internet .. OK go for it.

Intergalactic Computer Network or Galactic Network[1] was a computer networking concept similar to today's Internet. J.C.R. Licklider, the first director of the Information Processing Techniques Office (IPTO) at the The Pentagon's ARPA, used the term in the early 1960s to refer to a networking system he “imagined as an electronic commons open to all, ‘the main and essential medium of informational interaction for governments, institutions, corporations, and individuals.’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergalactic_Computer_Network (Thanks Wikipedia ... again)

Even so I seriously doubt Alan Metcalfe would have been tinkering with this idea 30 years ago HENCEFORTH I will not be buying any of his stock. As the blurb on the website was so fanciful and grammatically incorrect I was compelled to go with this flight of absurdity and post my reply in the manner as to which it was meant. Look below at this picture to see what level of Non compos mentis I was applying to this "deal of a lifetime".

 

[Bozley]

I have been offered shares in acompany called **** ****** with some fantastic returns promissed.To good to be true or the deal of a lifetime?Any input from you guys would be appreciated. Cheers Stefan

Hi Stefan1

Safe Worlds TV is a new internet platform that provides both an IPTV network and an Electronic Global Marketplace (GMP) for buyers and sellers. You use the system by downloading a FREE app - currently only available for PC but soon to be released for Mac,ipad,cell phones etc. Take a look at http://greathomebiz.swtv.biz and download you own app to try it out for free.

 

[Bozley]

Got bored on a Friday night so thought I'd entertain myself by googling **** ****** and alan metcalfe.
Here are a couple of links including a 2008 youtube interview of Alan Metcalfe promising that Safe worlds IPTV will be released in a few months. 5 years later and you're still waiting?
http://safeworlds.net/
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Alan-Metcalfe/521108298
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFypumMWuNo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRs940g1j1Y
The youtube interview is in 2 parts - both as pointless as the other.
Make up your owned informed decision - Universal Logic - seems to be the "secret" patented technology behind **** ****** IPTV. It's based on the Bible.
I'm a Christian and I HATE it when these religious kooks start to use their beliefs to con people out of money. I won't get on my soapbox but I think you get the point. And yes - I think it is a scam. You will never see your money again.

Dear Payday

O ye of little faith - how wrong you are.
This system was released to the general public on 28th May 2014
yes a bit later than anticipated but then "universal Logic" is a global
first - and these things take whatever time they need to in order to
become reality. You can see this system live at http://greathomebiz.swtv.biz
so please have a look around the system and reserve you scam comments
until you understand what you are witnessing.

 

[MichaelBNZ]

I would like to kick off this Thread again.

SWTV is at the stage where it needs to sell another one million shares at $5 each.
More capital is needed to complete testing, then release it to the public & finally IPO onto the US Stock market.
The system is in BETA Testing mode with proof of concept completed.

Anyone looking to invest in this private company doing big things on a small budget please watch the below links and get on board.

http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream2/
http://www.safeworlds.net/livestream3/

Safeworlds TV is a vehicle for a few people (Alan Metcalfe) to earn a decent living until they die, I do not disagree that there is a product being developed, but the time thats been taken to generate a very basic and counter-intuitive Silverlight based website indicates there is almost no one working in this platform.

I have many family members invested in this and I feel sorry that they will lose their investment money and they will lose all of it, I watched Alans videos and explanation and could not understand how he would ever make money doing this, even the 'Blue chip' investors (Water board of America and The Tea party are rubbish as far as I can tell).

Below is an email that I sent to Alan with his responses, DO NOT INVEST IN SAFEWORLDS TV unless you understand how his system works, he can't even explain it himself!

My email to Alan

Hello Alan, sorry to contact you out of the blue but I'm very interested in how your technology will make a difference to the existing ecommerce technologies that are available and how the TV channels are going to provide a good experience for the channel owners.

AMM: I will try!!!

When I run google searches there is no reference to your technology other than self promotion sites, the terms 'universal logic' haven't registered either so I wonder whether that is such a big discovery as I would certainly register and trademark something so fundamentally new.

AMM: This is very hard to explain to people. However, you need to know that the world is not honest. Google and the mainstream media is a direct competitor and they will not go out of their way to promote me or Safe Worlds TV. The good news is this suits me because, particularly until now, I have not been interested in educating our competitors as to how Universal Logic (Artificial Intelligence) works. Unfortunately, we get one chance to protect and capitalize on this technology; and once we lose control of it; we will lose any chance of every capitalizing on it. I therefore have to be very careful what I say; and to whom I say it. The world of science; and even many parts of the Christian Church, do not want to hear about my work on the Bible. It is totally unacceptable to many in science that I found Universal Logic in the Bible. THE GOOD NEWS out of all this; despite all this; we have it; and no one can take that away from us. We just now need to capitalize on the fact.

I was browsing the channels today and its extremely difficult to navigate if I was to compare with other Ecommerce sites such as eBay or Amazon.

AMM: I understand that it is at this stage, because it is so comprehensive. It has to be to cover the World Economy. Google is simple because it doesn’t do a fraction of what Safe Worlds TV does. E-Bay, Amazon, etc., are simple because they are single user monopolies (silos). Safe Worlds TV has to provide a common User Interface for millions of users. This isn’t easy. When Channels start to use their own Vanity URLs within Safe Worlds TV – this will make a big difference – I think. Also, be assured that we will keep working on simplifying the interface; and educating people to what it is. I believe it is very important to know what Safe Worlds TV is; then you will marvel, like we do; that it is as simple as it is.;

As a system architect (infrastructure) myself I would really like to understand how the systems work and how its going to repair the global economy.

AMM: As a system’s architect, you should know the difficulty of designing a common user interface for the entire World Economy. Designing a user interface for a single user Website, no matter how big the user, is simple. Try designing one for a million users and see how difficult it becomes. This is the beauty of the Safe Worlds TV user interface. It is a common user interface that can handle every business; every enterprise; and every participant in the World Economy.

I have been told about what Safeworlds is multiple times and I'm very curious as I have people suggesting that I should buy into it.

AMM: You have to come to that decision yourself. However, I humbly suggest that if you understand where the IT world is at this stage; and what are the big obstacles that the industry has run into; you should know that “he who wins the Artificial Intelligence battle” wins the whole prize. That’s why Safe Worlds TV is such a good investment, because we have AI. I made the critical breakthrough 14 years ago. This gives us a huge start in understanding what it is; and how to get it working commercially. And you should know that the AI that I am talking about is not the AI that IBM has developed, for example; that is not distributable on a mass basis; as Safe Worlds TV is. What we have is real AI – we have the Holy Grail.

I'm very curious how the system is going to change the economy because that would be an amazing thing.

AMM: The economy is already changing; we are moving from the traditional way of doing business; into the Digital Age. We are now past the tipping point where the world must go electronic. The only problem is that the world does not have the platform or the system to go electronic. The World Wide Web is not suitable and cannot be retrofitted as required for ubiquitous e-business. Every IT expert in the world recognizes this. So my job, as a system designer, is not to come up with the smart idea of how to change the world; I just have to design the vehicle that makes it possible. This is what is now missing. To design such a vehicle, you must first find and come to under4stand Artificial Intelligence, because there is no other way to handle the load. You can’t build a centrally controlled silo, big enough.

 

[Sdajii]

Did he say they scanned the bible and found artificial intelligence in it?

 

[MichaelBNZ]

Did he say they scanned the bible and found artificial intelligence in it?

I think after disseminating the full contents of the bible, Sateworlds TV was still not able to make sense of the story and therefore decided if so many believe in the bible, then a system based on a 'universal logic' that is equally impossible to understand would surely get decent buy in from greedy people who despite not understanding how the system could ever work, liked the catchy phrase 'Universal Logic'.

 

[idmprofile]

I have been offered shares in acompany called **** ****** with some fantastic returns promissed.To good to be true or the deal of a lifetime?Any input from you guys would be appreciated. Cheers Stefan

Hi Stefan1, ever thought of investing in Indonesia for Agribusiness fields.

 

[pixel]

It's amazing for how long an obvious scam can be discussed, laid bare, defended, and reiterated ad nauseam. It's also amusing to read some of the initial "explanation" of how the Great Insight occurred to the inventor. ... particularly amusing when read after some contributions to the crazy Religion thread

I am, however, somewhat surprised that nobody has picked up on this bit of "research":

"When I realized that the Greeks called Jesus Logos, the personification of logic, and that the problem I was trying to solve in computerization was one of logic, it all started to come together for me."

Isn't anybody even that superficially familiar with the New Testament to unmask the above as an English joke?
"Logos" in connection with Jesus has nothing to do with "logic". It simply means "word" and as such appears in the introduction to St John's Gospel. The literal translation is "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was by the God and God was the Word (and) nothing was in the beginning but the God."
The next sentence has often been misinterpreted; the Greek word used to refer to the source by which/ whom everything was subsequently created, is "αυτου", which is a reference back to the previously-mentioned subject, i.e. the God-Word entity. "Everything appeared/ came into being (εγένετο) through the aforementioned (αυτου)."

Only by later association, when Jesus became elevated as a member of the Holy Trinity, was a connection between "the Word-God" and God jr. established. But that has got nothing to do with logic either. Logic as in computer logic and logic circuits is a new word of the English language. In ancient Greek, the adjective "λογικοϛ" would simply describe something as "word-related" or "verbal".

PS:In Wilhelm Pape (1807–1854), Handwörterbuch der griechischen Sprache, the authoritative German Standard Dictionary, I found a reference to "ἡ λογική" translated as Beredsamkeit, i.e. persuasiveness or something we would today call "the gift of the gab". I thought I'd share that additional "insight" with you - how apt in this particular context

 

[samdell]

The scary part of this "great investment" and that the expected investors are the supposed dummies is that my brother in law a 20 year CPA with his own practice and my brother who has his own plumbing business, along with a cray fisherman mate all stumped up 50k for this investment opportunity of a lifetime. The even stranger thing is that the all live in Geraldton and from what I can tell, they are part of a significant number of locals who invested.

Man, God works in mysterious ways!

 

[stockhead]

What gets me about these "scams" is there are easy ways to check things out - they start to turn a profit and get returns they need to claw back the millions if not tens of millions already spent.

With the prolific nature of web companies coming.....an going to think throwing a decent amount of coin at someone who quite obviously is so far behind the eight ball in terms of what matters is strange

I am sure some of the investors are good hearted people who think putting their money with what seems a good idea and has potential seems good but sure some basic homework tells you otherwise

surely a lower risk option makes sense and if you are dumb enough to just throw your money away being either greedy or gullible I have very little sympathy

Safe Worlds TV have never put anything of substance up, not attracted even 1% of the businesses needed in order to make the business plan work (if they even have one) - they don't market, advertise or encourage people to use it, only rub their own ego and silly awards and the push for more investors - lots of people "owed money" I cannot see anyone getting any back

in saying that it is a legitimate business model and "could" work so while not a true scam it is a very dangerous option to put your cash

I think what is sad is the person/s running it are smart enough to know regardless of their belief in "AI" which is simply not founded or credited anywhere else that the model must need years and years to get off the ground

This same message applies to everything - become sensible by doing some ABC's and logical stuff before dumping money or I can send you my bank account - I will provide a free virtual hug which may be worth a whole lot more......

 

[ShannonASF]

"17-308MR ASIC accepts enforceable undertaking from US-based e-business system developer"

http://asic.gov.au/about-asic/media...ng-from-us-based-e-business-system-developer/

 

[pixel]

"17-308MR ASIC accepts enforceable undertaking from US-based e-business system developer"

http://asic.gov.au/about-asic/media...ng-from-us-based-e-business-system-developer/

That's last year's news.
The big question is, Did she comply? Or is it crook business as usual?
And How does ASIC's EU help the people that got scammed all those years since 2010?
Most likely outcome will be the same as for all the other dodgy dealings that come to light in the Banking Royal Commission: The crooks keep the rewards. Some token crocodile tears and promises "we'll give back what we over-charged". But the bulk of the victims remain shafted.

 

[bullyboy]

What gets me about these "scams" is there are easy ways to check things out - they start to turn a profit and get returns they need to claw back the millions if not tens of millions already spent.

With the prolific nature of web companies coming.....an going to think throwing a decent amount of coin at someone who quite obviously is so far behind the eight ball in terms of what matters is strange

I am sure some of the investors are good hearted people who think putting their money with what seems a good idea and has potential seems good but sure some basic homework tells you otherwise

surely a lower risk option makes sense and if you are dumb enough to just throw your money away being either greedy or gullible I have very little sympathy

Safe Worlds TV have never put anything of substance up, not attracted even 1% of the businesses needed in order to make the business plan work (if they even have one) - they don't market, advertise or encourage people to use it, only rub their own ego and silly awards and the push for more investors - lots of people "owed money" I cannot see anyone getting any back

in saying that it is a legitimate business model and "could" work so while not a true scam it is a very dangerous option to put your cash

I think what is sad is the person/s running it are smart enough to know regardless of their belief in "AI" which is simply not founded or credited anywhere else that the model must need years and years to get off the ground

This same message applies to everything - become sensible by doing some ABC's and logical stuff before dumping money or I can send you my bank account - I will provide a free virtual hug which may be worth a whole lot more......

Has there been anymore updates on this scam? Is it still alive?

 

[greggles]

Has there been anymore updates on this scam? Is it still alive?

Given that their URL is not resolving to a website (www.safeworlds.tv), my guess is no.

Alan Metcalfe died more than two years ago: https://www.assistnews.net/australi...metcalfe-has-passed-on-to-his-eternal-reward/