Too good to be true

[stefan1]

Thank's for your input Payday.Thank god I didn't invest with that scum bag and asked the question here.It is a very sad world when people like that get away what they do.Fair enough if you invest with companys and the shares are fluctuating beacuse of the world economi etc.I still belive what goes around comes around .But after all this it comes down to greed when you get sucked into these sort of scams.Cheers Stefan

 

[Calliope]

Thank's for your input Payday.Thank god I didn't invest with that scum bag and asked the question here.It is a very sad world when people like that get away what they do.Fair enough if you invest with companys and the shares are fluctuating beacuse of the world economi etc.I still belive what goes around comes around .But after all this it comes down to greed when you get sucked into these sort of scams.Cheers Stefan

Don't be discouraged. Your gullible friends are an essential part of the investment industry. As Mark Twain said;

"Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest of us could not succeed".

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Thank's everyone for the help and advicespecial thanks to galumay for taking your time to look at their website.I looked at their web site ,But Im an old mechanic not a finance guru.To me and a lot of other people I"m sure it looked legit.that's why I put this post in here .If you dont mind me asking ,what stands out as a scam exept the huge returns.Thank's again cheers Stefan

I still don't trust you stefan and I suggest no one replies to your last question. Guys, he is fishing. Piss him off.

 

[waza1960]

I still don't trust you stefan and I suggest no one replies to your last question. Guys, he is fishing. Piss him off.

+1 GB

 

[Julia]

+2 GB.
Checking out the scam here to see how it can be made more credible.

 

[stefan1]

So this is what the world come to,no trust.Listen again is this some sort of trial here.This is who I am semi retired mechanic Swedish born came to oz with wife and 2 kids in 88.Worked with a couple of dealerships for afew years started my own company worked very hard sold up 2.5 years ago with a damn good profit. So what the f++ have you done,bet your a young pup never done a hard days work in your life(loser) .Change your name to Gringos W++k.Anyhow thanks to all the genuine people here that helped out.Cheers Stefan

 

[Joe Blow]

So this is what the world come to,no trust.

Stefan, the problem is that many people register at ASF with the sole intention of spamming a product or service. I spend a lot of time and energy implementing anti-spam measures to combat it, but it remains a huge problem. Please see any distrust as a healthy scepticism, rather than an attack on you personally.

I honestly can't work out whether you are spamming this product or genuinely enquiring about it, so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think the latter is more likely than the former, but I understand the scepticism nonetheless.

I think much of the problem is the way you titled this thread. A question mark would have done wonders. It is easy for others to make the mistake of thinking that you are promoting this "investment" as being "to good to be true" based on your thread title.

 

[tech/a]

So this is what the world come to,no trust.Listen again is this some sort of trial here.This is who I am semi retired mechanic Swedish born came to oz with wife and 2 kids in 88.Worked with a couple of dealerships for afew years started my own company worked very hard sold up 2.5 years ago with a damn good profit. So what the f++ have you done,bet your a young pup never done a hard days work in your life(loser) .Change your name to Gringos W++k.Anyhow thanks to all the genuine people here that helped out.Cheers Stefan

Wow
And here I was thinking GB was off the mark.

+ 3

 

[stefan1]

Stefan, the problem is that many people register at ASF with the sole intention of spamming a product or service. I spend a lot of time and energy implementing anti-spam measures to combat it, but it remains a huge problem. Please see any distrust as a healthy scepticism, rather than an attack on you personally.

I honestly can't work out whether you are spamming this product or genuinely enquiring about it, so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think the latter is more likely than the former, but I understand the scepticism nonetheless.

I think much of the problem is the way you titled this thread. A question mark would have done wonders. It is easy for others to make the mistake of thinking that you are promoting this "investment" as being "to good to be true" based on your thread title.

Hi Joe,Ithink anyone that would invest with this mob after reading this thread must be a real mug.I haven't said anything positive about this mob,and If Iwas promoting them I'm sure they sack me LOL.

 

[wombat40]

Change your name to Gringos W++k.Anyhow thanks to all the genuine people here that helped out.Cheers Stefan

Haha..so funny GW not GB

 

[Gringotts Bank]

So this is what the world come to,no trust.Listen again is this some sort of trial here.This is who I am semi retired mechanic Swedish born came to oz with wife and 2 kids in 88.Worked with a couple of dealerships for afew years started my own company worked very hard sold up 2.5 years ago with a damn good profit. So what the f++ have you done,bet your a young pup never done a hard days work in your life(loser) .Change your name to Gringos W++k.Anyhow thanks to all the genuine people here that helped out.Cheers Stefan

This is the next level of spammer. A bit more clever than the usual. This one is not Nigerian, he is Swedish. Why Swedish? Because Sweden has an image of trustworthiness. And what is a Swedish name? Stefan. Two kids and a wife. Good start.

I'm not going to point out all the little ways you slipped up, because then you will use that information when you go onto your next forum looking for dummies.

How can I be so certain? I am certain enough, and that's my only requirement. I could sit down and weigh up the possibility of you being legitimate, but that would be a complete waste of my time. Firstly, I never engage someone who comes to me with a proposal. There are some exceptions to this, but I'm not about to tell you what they are. I find people I want to deal with myself. They never come to me.

Let's say in your next post you provide Joe with irrefutable proof that you are indeed stefan from Sweden. Do I care? No. Do I look stupid? No. Do I feel bad about insulting you? Not at all. The thing is, my gut feel is saying "AVOID", and for me, that's the end of story. If logic and gut feel are at odds, I always go with gut feel. Logic and gut feel need to be aligned - both facing in the same direction. Done.

 

[Trembling Hand]

Hi Joe,Ithink anyone that would invest with this mob after reading this thread must be a real mug.I haven't said anything positive about this mob,and If Iwas promoting them I'm sure they sack me LOL.

Actually no. Thats the way it works. You don't want smart people you want dumb and desperate. You get the desperate by putting some rubbish out there with big claims and then filter out all but the really dumb with poor delivery. It is actually a very smart tactic by scammers because if you had smart people making inquires you would waste a lot of time trying to sway them but ultimately be unsuccessful. But if you can get a larger than normal percentage of idiots making enquires you efforts will be more rewarded.

That is why Nigerian scam emails have such poor gamma and sentence structure. Educated people read it and it turns them off. Idiots read it and see nothing unusual. Its Brilliant. And its scammer 101.

 

[tech/a]

Actually no. Thats the way it works. You don't want smart people you want dumb and desperate. You get the desperate by putting some rubbish out there with big claims and then filter out all but the really dumb with poor delivery. It is actually a very smart tactic by scammers because if you had smart people making inquires you would waste a lot of time trying to sway them but ultimately be unsuccessful. But if you can get a larger than normal percentage of idiots making enquires you efforts will be more rewarded.

That is why Nigerian scam emails have such poor gamma and sentence structure. Educated people read it and it turns them off. Idiots read it and see nothing unusual. Its Brilliant. And its scammer 101.

Was driving down the freeway in Lonsdale next to Christies beach for those who know it.

On a Billboard was an ad for Solicitors Slater and Gordon.
Depicted in the blurb was a middle aged guy showing a helping hand to those who passed
mentioning that they were specialists in Criminal and Commercial law.

You'd expect the Solicitor to be wearing a suit but it cracked me up he's wearing a Flannelette Shirt!

Ill have to take a shot of it and post it up.
Talk about targeting your demographic!

 

[So_Cynical]

Actually no. Thats the way it works. You don't want smart people you want dumb and desperate. You get the desperate by putting some rubbish out there with big claims and then filter out all but the really dumb with poor delivery.

Yep that's it exactly, these guys are looking for that 1 in a 1000 sucker, not necessarily dumb but certainly naive and susceptible to the message.

 

[Trembling Hand]

You'd expect the Solicitor to be wearing a suit but it cracked me up he's wearing a Flannelette Shirt!

Ill have to take a shot of it and post it up.
Talk about targeting your demographic!

Ha! It is Adelaide.....

 

[tech/a]

Ha! It is Adelaide.....

Thought it was Collingwood!

 

[prawn_86]

Yep that's it exactly, these guys are looking for that 1 in a 1000 sucker, not necessarily dumb but certainly naive and susceptible to the message.

Interesting article in Wired at some stage in the last year (cant remember when) about an African e-mail scammer who gave an interview. He said that the emails deliberately get worse/stupider (more outrageous, worse spelling etc etc), to filter out all but the complete idiots.

 

[stefan1]

And some people recons finance is booring.LOL

 

[burglar]

And some people recons finance is booring.LOL

And the spilling gets worst. LOL

 

[Sdajii]

So this is what the world come to,no trust.Listen again is this some sort of trial here.This is who I am semi retired mechanic Swedish born came to oz with wife and 2 kids in 88.Worked with a couple of dealerships for afew years started my own company worked very hard sold up 2.5 years ago with a damn good profit. So what the f++ have you done,bet your a young pup never done a hard days work in your life(loser) .Change your name to Gringos W++k.Anyhow thanks to all the genuine people here that helped out.Cheers Stefan

Nice. Like you I usually tell strangers irrelevant details about my personal life when I'm discussing 'someone else's' proposal.

Interesting thread. 'Stefan''s game is obvious, but I did learn a bit from others. I'd never given it much thought, I always just delete emails and ignore other unsolicited contact from anyone borderline illiterate, especially if they're trying to offer me anything etc., but it never occurred to me that borderline illiteracy it was a deliberate ploy. It makes a lot of sense - you only want to target to lowest demographic, so getting rid of everyone else is a big benefit - you'll never get their money and if they do get involved in any way they're the ones most likely to expose you. Never underestimate just how stupid a lot of the population is.

I often laugh at law firms targetting bogans using a bogan voice actor on radio ads and other expressions of deliberately presenting a person, product or company as some form of trashy in order to attract a certain demographic, but a solicitor in flannelette would be pushing it to the extreme! I'd love to see a picture of that.