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Tony Robbins Conference - Unleash the Power Within

i haven't been cos i generally refuse to look at self help stuff. (covered this in the psychology thread in "general")

from what you say, that stuff about pleasure and pain is basic psychology, conditioning in fact. Pavlov did it with his dogs.

and incorrect (imo) about the will power. Anything that involves you doing something that you don't want to do involves willpower, unless you love your job SOO much, even just the act of getting up at *time* in the morning just to go to work takes willpower.

Smoking (for smoker) is an enjoyable behaviour, unless you manage to reshape thought around smoking, the only way you will be able to stop is via self-regulation/self control/willpower. The more times you're able to stop the more likely you will continue to abstain... also, what generally happens with 'reformed" smokers is that the enjoyment of cigarettes hasn't decreased at all, what's changed is that either
a/ the smoking as a rewarding behaviour has decreased OR
b/ that the NOT smoking behaviour has become more desirable.

--> check out the Premack Principle for this one....
--> also check out Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for the cognitive restructuring..


what i think about self help, is that the people who benefit are most likely the people who probably could've done it themselves, and the people who don't are the people who went looking for somebody else to blame..



repetition isn't the mother of all skills, perfect repetition is.
anybody can swing a golf club 1000 times.... question is whether you can do it perfectly every time even when you're tired.


what i feel people gain the most (the ones who can't do it alone) they need a large group in order to feel that they have others who are trying to do what they're doing. I mean really people don't HAVE to go to church to listen to sermons, they could technically preach to themselves at home.

... sorry i can never keep posts short ^^"
No need to apologise Chaos. It's an interesting and sensible post.
 
Hi Pavilion,

You've got the right attitude for attending this seminar. One has to be coachable to get anything from any seminar. Maybe I don't have to tell you this but go with a positive attitude and enjoy. And above all, participate to the max. Tony's seminars are high-energy for a reason. There is a tremendous amount there to learn. I firmly believe that in any self-help seminar, one only gets what one wants to get.

I have attended many of Tony's and other seminars and know of many others who did too. There are some whose lives completely change (for the better) and some who fall in the old state of being soon after the seminar and then there are a few who just keep wondering as to what was all the fuss about. And then there are thevast numbers of non-attendees who are the loudest in expressing their opinions about what rubbish the seminar is.

Internet is a curious beast. The loudest voices are mostly of criticism and that too from people who shout their opinions on experiences that they have not undergone. We just love to hold on to our opinions like a security blanket inside our comfort zones.

To all those here who are criticising Tony Robbins in particular and self-help seminars in general and snidely remarking about the $$$ etc, you don't have to spend big dollars on the seminars. There is a lot in the books like "Awaken the Giant Within", "Unlimited Power". You could even buy his audio programs on eBay for not a lot of $$. I for one have not regretted spending on Tony's programs/seminars or for that matter on any of the other seminars/books/audio/video programs.

Hope you have a good time in Sydney. Once you are back after having attended the seminar, you could then legitimately write your critique in this forum or anywhere else. Your views, negative or positive, would have some legitimacy.

Cheers
 
Tony Robbins is at the top of his game, earning ONE MILLION dollars for personal coaching and that doesn’t include the 50 million dollars a year with the Anthony Robbins Companies’ sales. His fees are the highest in the business.

http://devology.wordpress.com/category/tony-robbins/

WOW ....... He must be good !

In Shallow Hal Robbins appears in a scene with Jack Black in an elevator and Robbins hypnotizes Black in order to change his mental state. Black then sees people's outward appearance based on their inner personality. During the scene, Black refers to Robbins' hands as "banana hands". Robbins' wife Sage, also has a cameo appearance in the movie.

Anthony Robbins was born Anthony J. Mahavorick at North Hollywood, California, United States of America on 29th of February 1960. He was 51 a few days ago.

Having been to many of these kind of "motivational speakers" I must say Tony Robbins is the best at what they have to offer. :rolleyes:
 
Tony Robbins is at the top of his game, earning ONE MILLION dollars for personal coaching and that doesn’t include the 50 million dollars a year with the Anthony Robbins Companies’ sales. His fees are the highest in the business.

http://devology.wordpress.com/category/tony-robbins/

WOW ....... He must be good !

In Shallow Hal Robbins appears in a scene with Jack Black in an elevator and Robbins hypnotizes Black in order to change his mental state. Black then sees people's outward appearance based on their inner personality. During the scene, Black refers to Robbins' hands as "banana hands". Robbins' wife Sage, also has a cameo appearance in the movie.

Anthony Robbins was born Anthony J. Mahavorick at North Hollywood, California, United States of America on 29th of February 1960. He was 51 a few days ago.

Having been to many of these kind of "motivational speakers" I must say Tony Robbins is the best at what they have to offer. :rolleyes:

Sounds more like a religion.

Mum a virgin ?

gg
 
Let's say it costs $1000 to attend.

An alternative way to spend the same money and get more actual real life benefit:

Go shopping, get a nice pair of shoes $300, and a jacket $500.

Get a table at Vue do Monde. Wear your new stuff. 3 courses. What would that cost? No idea, never been there, let's say $300 for a couple.

Done. Oh yeh I went over budget, but remember Tony is going to get you to spend a bit more when you're there for his other courses, books, dvds.

If you spend the money on dinner/clothes, you will boost your mood to a higher degree, because you're actually living it, rather than attempting to live the future potential of something that is unlikely to happen. Your boosted mood will last maybe 12-24 hours, which is about the same as a seminar, but with my option you don't have to hug a total stranger nor jump up and down like a ****ing fool. You get to keep the jacket and shoes.
 
I like watching, listening and reading about successful people and it appears to me what they all have in common is they have something many people want. If you have Wing Wongs for a goose's bridle selling at a buck each and a million people want Wing Wongs for their goose's bridle then that is millionaire stuff. :)

If you have energy, charisma, high self esteem, inner strength, knowledge and belief then people are attracted to that too.

I occasionally thought I was ill when out seeking enlightenment and personal mind growth. Why would one be seeking such if they were not ill. Truth was I inherited a guilt complex and thought I had done so many people wrong. Truth was I was introverted and weak so feared many people and situations. Truth was I was trying to keep friends by folding to peer group pressure. Truth was I was nervous under scrutiny and would make mistakes. Truth was I felt inferior to anyone more intelligent or larger framed.

So people like Anthony (though I have never met him before) open doors to places that people wanting to improve their lives can walk through into a new world. For as the saying goes ... With our thoughts we make the world.
 
Sounds more like a religion.

Mum a virgin ?

gg

I like watching, listening and reading about successful people and it appears to me what they all have in common is they have something many people want. If you have Wing Wongs for a goose's bridle selling at a buck each and a million people want Wing Wongs for their goose's bridle then that is millionaire stuff. :)

If you have energy, charisma, high self esteem, inner strength, knowledge and belief then people are attracted to that too.

I occasionally thought I was ill when out seeking enlightenment and personal mind growth. Why would one be seeking such if they were not ill. Truth was I inherited a guilt complex and thought I had done so many people wrong. Truth was I was introverted and weak so feared many people and situations. Truth was I was trying to keep friends by folding to peer group pressure. Truth was I was nervous under scrutiny and would make mistakes. Truth was I felt inferior to anyone more intelligent or larger framed.

So people like Anthony (though I have never met him before) open doors to places that people wanting to improve their lives can walk through into a new world. For as the saying goes ... With our thoughts we make the world.

And in the beginning was the word, and the word was robbins....

Gimme a break

gg
 
I like watching, listening and reading about successful people and it appears to me what they all have in common is they have something many people want. If you have Wing Wongs for a goose's bridle selling at a buck each and a million people want Wing Wongs for their goose's bridle then that is millionaire stuff. :)

If you have energy, charisma, high self esteem, inner strength, knowledge and belief then people are attracted to that too.

I occasionally thought I was ill when out seeking enlightenment and personal mind growth. Why would one be seeking such if they were not ill. Truth was I inherited a guilt complex and thought I had done so many people wrong. Truth was I was introverted and weak so feared many people and situations. Truth was I was trying to keep friends by folding to peer group pressure. Truth was I was nervous under scrutiny and would make mistakes. Truth was I felt inferior to anyone more intelligent or larger framed.

So people like Anthony (though I have never met him before) open doors to places that people wanting to improve their lives can walk through into a new world. For as the saying goes ... With our thoughts we make the world.

good reason to go.....
to a psychologist or a counsellor.. might've been cheaper :p claim it on medicare hahahaha


how much is a seminar anyway?
 
Re: Tony Robbins Conference - Unleash the bull**** Within

The only thing being unleashed is a stream of BS... oh and of course lots of $$$ from punters wallets.

i was going to say what a load of rubbish & anyone sucked in is a total fool
but wayne has said it short & sweet...

total garbage...tigerboi
 
good reason to go.....
to a psychologist or a counsellor.. might've been cheaper :p claim it on medicare hahahaha
Going back a while and a different person now. :)

In a primitive way, bullies would sense my weakness and prey on me. I notice that happens to other weaker beings also. Preying on the weak. My best personal growth came when I punched a few. One case had a loosed tooth and never picked on me again while the other ended up with a red rosey face and a whimper. For some reason I don't get hassled nowadays. Like I said ... my best personal growth. ;)
 
Going back a while and a different person now. :)

In a primitive way, bullies would sense my weakness and prey on me. I notice that happens to other weaker beings also. Preying on the weak. My best personal growth came when I punched a few. One case had a loosed tooth and never picked on me again while the other ended up with a red rosey face and a whimper. For some reason I don't get hassled nowadays. Like I said ... my best personal growth. ;)

Passive aggression going active, or active aggression going passive.

Take your pick. Sorry. See I can do it as well.

However wysiwyg, whether you find this dill good for you or not, he is good for you, and if it doesn't break the bank I can understand why you would pay for the experience.

I myself have spent thousands on Leunig cartoons.

gg
 
It was a great experience.

Tony Robbins is on the money with a number of things such as:

- The 6 universal human needs
- How our values and then beliefs shape the quality of our life. If we set impossible standards and don't feel successful we won't be in a resourceful state.
- The principle of pain and pleasure and getting leverage on yourself to change
- How a few simple shifts in diet can take us away from an acidic body and create lasting energy

I don't believe absolutely everything he teaches but no doubt he is one of the best.

Like I said previously you take the good and bad and use the good.

I feel sorry for people who can't see the good in things. You basically get out of it what you are looking for.

People can put him and his teachings down until they are black and blue in the face but the reality is he is an enormous success and changing the lives of many many people.

I wouldn't go as far as attending the Mastery University (4 courses for $9995), but as for an $800, 4 day conference, if you use the material it is well well worth it.

Would highly recommend.
 
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