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Of course not. He probably would offer his "you know what" this time. It's his last roll of the dice.
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Of course not. He probably would offer his "you know what" this time. It's his last roll of the dice.
When the wheeling and dealing was done last election, with the independents eventually forming a government with the ALP, I distinctively remember Abbott doing the same - ie. NOT negotiating. Sure he discussed his position with them but from what I remember he didn't "negotiate" (aka compromise his views/policies), so with the help of a few bribes/compromises they all went with the ALP, even though in each seat, the Libs had more votes than the ALP.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
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Wrong again. If it comes to a minority government, Abbott's best choice is to let Rudd run with it and sell his large "you know what". I doubt if Rudd or Abbott would be able to cope with the economic mess that Rudd and Gillard have bequeathed, in a minority government.
Abbott will be on the backbench if he loses this election.
It could not be as bad as Labor's buget blow out from $18 billion to $31 billion in just 10 weeks. Nothing to gloat about here.
How could these Labor dingbats get it so wrong.
+ 1 Calliope. IMHO, the Coalition will get up by 9 seats so we need not fear a hung parliament.
It is the Senate which will be the worry for Abbott.
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Agree. And that's what Mr Abbott probably has in mind when he made this categorical statement.
Whoever wins government this time is going to be in for an incredibly difficult time. Might be good to see Labor actually having to account for all their expensive promises.
I reckon under the strain, the tenuous relationship between Rudd and his reluctant colleagues would break down completely.
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Hopefully Rudd will also disappear to the back bench if he loses.
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Which says alot, that they stand by their principles, not like this Labor Government, that has blown with the wind. Anything for power, now backflipping on all they created costing us more saying its a new way.
Agree with your comments Calliope and Julia, about not making deals with a minority government, lets hope we dont end up there again at this election.
I am glad that Abbott has been pulling up Rudd about the pink batts disaster, thats something that was delivered through him and though it was brought to his attention at the time, did nothing about it.
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So a principled Tony Abbott tells WA voters he believes a per capita carve up of the GST is probably a good way to go in the future, hops on a plane and 3 days later is on the hustings in Tasmania telling the voters there that he does not believe in any changes to the GST that would leave a state worse off.
So how does one change the distribution of a set amount of funds, yet leave no one worse off?
Then we have Abbott in WA telling businesses that it should be easier for them to access private land for resource development, then pops up in NSW shortly after and tells farmers that they should have strong rights to block resource companies to access their land.
Abbott has been caught out numerous times tailoring his message to the audience of the hour. How can one vote for a person who says what everyone wants to hear? That's not leadership.
As for the pink batts disaster, it did achieve it's main goal of economic stimulus, and I can honestly say I'm saving in the vicinity of 150kWh of electricity a year - around 20% of annual consumption. I dare say if I'd had aircon that figure would be at least double. It's definitely been a contributor to the large decline in residential electricity consumption in this country over the last few years. The great thing is it was a once off cost but provides a couple of decades worth of energy savings.
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Sorry to disillusion you Sydboy, but take a look at this. Abbott is considered more trustworthy than your guy.
[video]http://video.news.com.au/2400150650/Coalition-leads-ALP-according-to-poll[/video]
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Sorry to disillusion you Sydboy, but take a look at this. Abbott is considered more trustworthy than your guy.
[video]http://video.news.com.au/2400150650/Coalition-leads-ALP-according-to-poll[/video]
Ah, but according to Tanya Plibersek, that's only because Mr Abbott isn't telling people the truth.
I'm getting the sense that Rudd's focus on adoring school children and chaotic activity is wearing more than a bit thin and in contrast Mr Abbott's more sober demeanour might be being seen as steady and consistent, similar to the now long term unity of the Coalition.
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Sorry to disillusion you Sydboy, but take a look at this. Abbott is considered more trustworthy than your guy.
[video]http://video.news.com.au/2400150650/Coalition-leads-ALP-according-to-poll[/video]
So Calliope
Do you think Abbott supports a more per capita GST carve up, or the current way of distributing the funds?
Do you think Abbott will help to make it easier for resource companies to access a farmer's land to extract the resources underneath, or will he help to give farmers easier accessible rights to block the resource companies?
I suppose I should tune out when Abbott is speaking and only believe what he has in a policy document as he's already admitted his off the cuff remarks are not trust worthy.
If I met someone doing what Abbott does I'd tell them to stop being so duplicitous.
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I'd like to see the following table.
From The Australian's Paul Kelly,
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...sun/comments/labor_spending_us_into_disaster/
My bolds.
From The Australian's Paul Kelly,
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...sun/comments/labor_spending_us_into_disaster/
My bolds.
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Calliope, can you do a different link to the poll results? That link, for me anyway, goes to a long list of topics each with 'Watch Video' but clicking on any of them brings nothing more.Sorry to disillusion you Sydboy, but take a look at this. Abbott is considered more trustworthy than your guy.
[video]http://video.news.com.au/2400150650/Coalition-leads-ALP-according-to-poll[/video]
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I can understand you being up-set over the poll. I would feel the same way if it were the other way around.
By the way if I saw a guy doing what Rudd is doing, i.e. habitually hanging around schoolgrounds and surrounding himself with little kids and lying to them, I would call the police. I would suspect he was up to no good.
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I can understand you being up-set over the poll. I would feel the same way if it were the other way around.
By the way if I saw a guy doing what Rudd is doing, i.e. habitually hanging around schoolgrounds and surrounding himself with little kids and lying to them, I would call the police. I would suspect he was up to no good.
Not really
If I had my choice Abbott and Rudd would both have a crisis of conscience and remove themselves from the election.
I wonder how long it will take for the Abbott disappointment to set in should he win. All those voters told what he will do, but since half of it is a 180 degree turn from other stuff he's said, it's hard to really get an idea of what will happen. I suppose it will depend on who squeals loudest and gets the greatest support from the MSM.
I just want to know what happens should the ALP stand it's ground in the senate and force a double dissolution election. Will the Libs keep Abbott or force him out to avoid it.
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The cardinal rule is "of two evils choose the lesser". However I think that in your case you will choose the greatest evil of all, Christine Milne.
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In comparison, Labor's done 540 and they're still spinning.