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Julia said:
You might like to explain why you are suggesting that 'never directly answering questions'is reminiscent of John Howard. I would dispute that suggestion absolutely. :(:(:(
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John Howard on most occasions to questions from the press, answered the question he would have asked of himself and totally ignoring that asked. He passed the media awareness course with flying colours.

Tony Abbott is flat footed and not able to answer the questions he presets for himslef because also he becomes self conscious and forgets his place on the page.
 
explod said:
Tony Abbott is flat footed and not able to answer the questions he presets for himslef because also he becomes self conscious and forgets his place on the page.
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Exactly, Abbott must follow a script lest he descend into the dark territory of impromptu speech with the awkward stammering phrasing and repetitive slogans the end result. When distracted from the prepared line his facial expression and body language visibly change and he falls back to the usual sloganeering - we will stop the boats, labour is incompetent and who do ya trust. It's little wonder that his personal popularity stinks.

If the Libs lose the unlosable election it will rightly be blamed primarily on Abbott and he will no doubt fall on his sword and exit politics on a generous govt pension. Political historians will likely be unkind to him and rightly so. Bring on Turnbull now!
 
Abbott will be feeling a lot of pressure of Rudd being able to better use the media. Abbott seems to too focused on getting soundbites - even speaking to try and highlight them. It's like watching a comedian trying to always deliver one liner zingers. It gets tiresome quickly. I hope he's had a good word to Bish and Robb for their deviations from the script in ways that put them under the microscope for the wrong reasons.
 
sptrawler said:
If he is bringing in spin doctors from the U.S, I wouldn't think he will be calling an early election. Talking about employment, I heard on the radio Kev has employed his sons as advisors. lol
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Yes, I saw that sptrawler, unbelievable.
http://www.news.com.au/national-new...al-campaign-team/story-fnho52ip-1226689100368
More money for people to do nothing.
And he has put himself up there with more power - never to be thrown out -- pfft.

52:48 for the Coalition.
All comes down the economy, trust and for the country.
Even Rudds brother commented about it so says alot for him.

With the debts Labor has accrued, and watching Rudd panic, no one wants to see their country go down the gurgler.

He can bring in all the heavies he wants, we have seen alot of nastiness in Labor already and did them no good, the public turns off.
The Coalition have always turned the economy around and Rudd knows that
 
boofhead said:
Abbott seems to too focused on getting soundbites - even speaking to try and highlight them.
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+1 Although I disagree with the guy on many issues, I preferred him when he was a straight talker. Didn't waste time trying to make the perfect remark, and wasn't afraid to say the wrong thing in the attempt to say the right thing.
 
Zedd said:
+1 Although I disagree with the guy on many issues, I preferred him when he was a straight talker. Didn't waste time trying to make the perfect remark, and wasn't afraid to say the wrong thing in the attempt to say the right thing.
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I think he knows the press will carve him up, if he says anything wrong or controvrsial, it stays on the front page for weeks. IMO
 
boofhead said:
Abbott will be feeling a lot of pressure of Rudd being able to better use the media. Abbott seems to too focused on getting soundbites - even speaking to try and highlight them. It's like watching a comedian trying to always deliver one liner zingers. It gets tiresome quickly. I hope he's had a good word to Bish and Robb for their deviations from the script in ways that put them under the microscope for the wrong reasons.
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It is what is in the pudding that counts not the cream on the top.
 
sptrawler said:
I think he knows the press will carve him up, if he says anything wrong or controvrsial, it stays on the front page for weeks. IMO
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Definitely. But the solution at the moment isn't doing him any favours either.

Brings to mind Bush actually. If you ever saw him speak from the heart it was hard to disbelieve him, and whether you agreed with him or not, you at least felt you could trust what he was saying to be the truth as he saw it. He still made mistakes, and had the grace and humility to deal with it most of the time. It was when he tried to turn it on for the media, that he made all the catastrophic appearances and sound bites that most people remember him for.

Liberal vs Labour may come down to policies, but personal approval ratings are down to credibility at the moment IMO. A lot of people have already chosen a side and it's hard to start to believe someone once you start mistrusting them, but for all the fence sitters I feel Abbott could gain ground on Rudd by showing his true colours.
 
Zedd said:
Definitely. But the solution at the moment isn't doing him any favours either.

Brings to mind Bush actually. If you ever saw him speak from the heart it was hard to disbelieve him, and whether you agreed with him or not, you at least felt you could trust what he was saying to be the truth as he saw it. He still made mistakes, and had the grace and humility to deal with it most of the time. It was when he tried to turn it on for the media, that he made all the catastrophic appearances and sound bites that most people remember him for.

Liberal vs Labour may come down to policies, but personal approval ratings are down to credibility at the moment IMO. A lot of people have already chosen a side and it's hard to start to believe someone once you start mistrusting them, but for all the fence sitters I feel Abbott could gain ground on Rudd by showing his true colours.
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Agree completely with your assesment, however no matter what Abbott says Rudd will adopt it, if it gets votes.
So Abbott has learnt from the Rudd/ Howard election, Rudd just said 'me too' and voters said "why not".

That stratergy proved extremely succesful and the coalition are still smarting from it.

Rudd is no goose, he is waiting for Abbott to commit to policy then jump on it, the problem for Rudd is he hasn't got time on his side.

That is why IMO Rudd is bringing in talent from the U.S, he has made a lot of backflips, on multiple fronts.
It will take some clever advertising, to convince middle Australia, Labor are not just a bunch of idiots.:D
 
Today is the first time I have heard Tony speak without "and uhh... " punctuating every sentence. Maybe it took some time to train out of him. A small (very small) degree of confidence has crept in. The slowness of speech belies some uncertainty, however. I'm not sure he has half the understanding of Rudd when it comes to complex affairs. At some point, an insolent journo will get under Tony's skin again. And at some point, some well-meaning junior staffer will make an error and turn Rudd into a monster.
 
Gringotts Bank said:
Today is the first time I have heard Tony speak without "and uhh... " punctuating every sentence. Maybe it took some time to train out of him. A small (very small) degree of confidence has crept in. The slowness of speech belies some uncertainty, however. I'm not sure he has half the understanding of Rudd when it comes to complex affairs.
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That's it in a nut shell..Tony is to the Noalition what Latham was to Labor...a liability dressed up as a savoir.
 
The economy is going down the drain at a rate of 4bn a month.

Thank god the coalition says no, no, no!!

One day all that waste will need to be repaid.

Which party do you think has the ability to repay it ?
 
So_Cynical said:
That's it in a nut shell..Tony is to the Noalition what Latham was to Labor...a liability dressed up as a savoir.
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Or Rudd, the disaster dressed up as the milky bar kid. I actually agree with what Rudd outlines in his ads, he knows what needs to be done. I just have no faith in him actually doing it as his track record speaks for itself. Abbott on the other hand needs to start laying down his vision in more detail and drop his parental leave.
The way things are going this country will be close to broke by 2025 if we dont have some very big reforms.
 
I raised this on another thread but haven't seen anyone responding: Tony Abbott has declared if he doesn't get an outright win he will absolutely not be negotiating with anyone to form a minority government. He says he would walk away and let Labor govern.

I find this difficult to believe. He tried very hard to so negotiate last time. After all this time in opposition, if government is achievable via support of a minor party or Independent, would he really be so high minded?
 
Julia said:
I raised this on another thread but haven't seen anyone responding: Tony Abbott has declared if he doesn't get an outright win he will absolutely not be negotiating with anyone to form a minority government. He says he would walk away and let Labor govern.

I find this difficult to believe. He tried very hard to so negotiate last time. After all this time in opposition, if government is achievable via support of a minor party or Independent, would he really be so high minded?
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I have lost count of Abbotts position on any number of issues to see him flip around to the opposing view when it suited the polls and note Rudd doing the same.
If it came to a hung parliament Abbott would be in there fighting for government because you just don't get to pull the levers in opposition

Another one for the count

Abbott backflips on use of Treasury figures, says 'net outcome' of budget will be released before election

Tony Abbott says his budget bottom line will be "crystal clear" before voters head to the polls, and will rely on Treasury figures as a costings base.

The announcement marks a changed stance for the Opposition Leader, who has previously expressed distrust for the Treasury figures and said voters can "do the arithmetic" on his budget.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-09/abbott-to-use-pefo-figures-as-base-for-costings/4876554
 
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