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Julia said:
That's true, but that was then. Kevin is smarter now, and probably so, too, is Malcolm Turnbull. Mr Abbott, in contrast, seems somehow diminished in stature and in confidence.
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It could also be that Tony Abbott is being underestimated, again.

Time will tell.
 
Julia said:
The irony is that I believe Mr Abbott is fundamentally more trustworthy and less maniacally self interested than either of the other two above.
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I think that is the main issue for Rudd as it was for Gillard/McTernan. No matter how hard they try they haven't been able to crack him.
He hasn't flown off the handle, he hasn't ranted and raved when personaly attacked, he was calm and measured in the face of the Canberra riot when Gillard was falling over herself despite, her staff being responsible for it.

Australia is screaming out for trustworthy politicians, without the spin, without the BS. As has been said before Labor appear to have lost their moral compass and Rudd with his spin is compounding this belief.
I listen to comments my better half says, as she hasn't any interest in politics whatsoever, I still hear her say dissaproving comments when she hears Rudd.

I think the election will be interesting, some may get a shock.IMO

So to sum it up, appart from Abbotts slow measured speach and his unwillingness to announce policy till he sees fit, what is wrong with him?

As opposed to a snake oil salesman, selling everyone the story that he isn't to blame and he can fix it.lol
 
sptrawler said:
So to sum it up, appart from Abbotts slow measured speach and his unwillingness to announce policy till he sees fit, what is wrong with him?

As opposed to a snake oil salesman, selling everyone the story that he isn't to blame and he can fix it.lol
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Pretty true.
 
drsmith said:
It could also be that Tony Abbott is being underestimated, again.

Time will tell.
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Your judgement and foresight is one thing,

but how the electorate are taking it all in looks more and more like quite another.

Election result to be................. ALP 55%, Lib/Nats 45%

And the Greens will hold on to keep them all honest. :D

I also mentioned months ago that you needed Turnbull.
 
sptrawler said:
Australia is screaming out for trustworthy politicians, without the spin, without the BS
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So you think when Tony wouldn't advise the names of the donors to the slush fund "Honest Politics" he created to get rid of Pauline Hanson he's the kind of honest no BS politicians you're talking about?

I mean his words were "..there are some things the public has no particular right to know." If that's not contempt for the people he servers, then what is??

He spun so many lies to weasel his way out. If I read correctly he either lied to the AEC or he's lied multiple times on the ABC and various newspapers.

He may be no worse than the mobs we have on both sides of the house, but he's certainly just as mucky as they are.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/tony-abbott-and-his-slushy-question-of-character/
 
sydboy007 said:
So you think when Tony wouldn't advise the names of the donors to the slush fund "Honest Politics" he created to get rid of Pauline Hanson he's the kind of honest no BS politicians you're talking about?

I mean his words were "..there are some things the public has no particular right to know." If that's not contempt for the people he servers, then what is??

He spun so many lies to weasel his way out. If I read correctly he either lied to the AEC or he's lied multiple times on the ABC and various newspapers.

He may be no worse than the mobs we have on both sides of the house, but he's certainly just as mucky as they are.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/tony-abbott-and-his-slushy-question-of-character/
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I'm sure if there is something to answer, he should be and will be done. Same as Slipper was

Labor would like nothing better than being able to take Abbott to task, so if he is guilty they will be onto it.

So, either they are dumber than I think, or you have an issue that can't be substantiated, at this time.

The other option is, he doesn't have anything to answer for and you are getting all bent up and out of shape over nothing. Time will tell.:xyxthumbs
 
Calliope said:
You'll have to delve deeper into the muck to find a politician as sleazy as your hero, Slipper.:rolleyes:
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Tony and his mates used to love him good ol Petey Slipper.

I mean most of Slipper's alleged (wont do a Tony and convict before the courts do) malfeasance occurred while he was a member of the coalition.
 
sptrawler said:
I'm sure if there is something to answer, he should be and will be done. Same as Slipper was

Labor would like nothing better than being able to take Abbott to task, so if he is guilty they will be onto it.

So, either they are dumber than I think, or you have an issue that can't be substantiated, at this time.

The other option is, he doesn't have anything to answer for and you are getting all bent up and out of shape over nothing. Time will tell.:xyxthumbs
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Did u even bother to spend 5 minutes reading the link I posted?

It would be hard not to think Abbott should front up and answer some tough questions. Seems he was always harping on for others to answer the questions, but he never seems to.
 
sydboy007 said:
Did u even bother to spend 5 minutes reading the link I posted?

It would be hard not to think Abbott should front up and answer some tough questions. Seems he was always harping on for others to answer the questions, but he never seems to.
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Didn't you read what I wrote, if there is something that has to be answered to, Labor will demand he answers.:eek:

If they don't think he has anything to answer to, they must be in some way involved, or feel there is no issue to answer to.

One would think their legal knowledge base is deeper than yours, but like I said if he has something to answer for he should be taken to task.

Or you are barking up the wrong tree.:D

You need to relax a bit.
 
explod said:
Your judgement and foresight is one thing,

but how the electorate are taking it all in looks more and more like quite another.

Election result to be................. ALP 55%, Lib/Nats 45%

And the Greens will hold on to keep them all honest. :D

I also mentioned months ago that you needed Turnbull.
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I, don't need anyone.

You'll need the tissues on election night.

Lib/Nats 55%, ALP 45%.
 
Some Dude said:
Andrew bolt?
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Never watch him, what has he got to do with the price of anything?

I'll add to that, watched him once, thought he was a head banger. I've got better things to do with my time than watch a head banger.lol

If I disagree with a government that's fine, I don't need someone ramming it down with a tamping rod.:D
 
sydboy007 said:
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/tony-abbott-and-his-slushy-question-of-character/
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What that site says about Craig Thomson,

It was the first time I had spoken to Craig Thomson. I came away impressed by this man’s sincerity, civic-mindedness, decency and strong intelligence. It must be said, IA has never uncovered any evidence in all its thousands of hours of investigations to suggest Thomson has done anything untoward. I may be proven wrong, but I would be surprised if Craig Thomson is guilty of anything other than a little naiveté about the depths some people will plunge to achieve their own selfish ends via grubby gutter politics.
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http://www.independentaustralia.net...o-ia-part-1-independent-politics-and-the-alp/
 

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