Tony Abbott for PM

[Macquack]

You are a sick man.

Explod is a decent fellow and former police officer.

Noco, you are just biased.

 

[MrBurns]

Explod is a decent fellow and former police officer.

Noco, you are just biased.

Anyone who tries to smear a long term volunteer for doing his job has no judgement and will get no support from anyone with credibility.

 

[Country Lad]

You are joking surely. Publicity written all over it.

Sounds good but unfortunately you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. When you do a bit of research to find the extent of his qualifications as a firefighter you will realise the stupidity of your statements.

He is highly experienced and qualified, having been involved in his rural brigade for years.

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[MrBurns]

You are joking surely. Publicity written all over it.
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No he's actually working, the publicity written all over it tag belongs to weasel face, grinning her way through the debris, stopping occasionally to anesthetise all present with her meaningless droning boganese dialect going on and on about nothing.

 

[explod]

He is highly experienced and qualified, having been involved in his rural brigade for years.

Cheers
Country Lad

And in war, this case fire, should not be on the front line risking his life. As you become experienced you learn to lead from behind and delegate down.

No idea of being a leader that's for sure.

 

[MrBurns]

And in war, this case fire, should not be on the front line risking his life. As you become experienced you learn to lead from behind and delegate down.
No idea of being a leader that's for sure.

You're just bailting now, not even funny.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

You're just bailting now, not even funny.

+1

gg

 

[sptrawler]

And in war, this case fire, should not be on the front line risking his life. As you become experienced you learn to lead from behind and delegate down.

No idea of being a leader that's for sure.

Echoes of WW1, it worked a treat then, people don't wear it now. People today don' take well to shut up and do as you're told. These days they expect more, only some professions can say shut up and do as your told.

 

[noco]

Anyone who tries to smear a long term volunteer for doing his job has no judgement and will get no support from anyone with credibility.

+1 I agree.

 

[IFocus]

Sounds good but unfortunately you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. When you do a bit of research to find the extent of his qualifications as a firefighter you will realise the stupidity of your statements.

He is highly experienced and qualified, having been involved in his rural brigade for years.

Cheers
Country Lad

Actually it was Abbott spruking his current involvement for the media, he is a politician needing some thing positive but I don't begrudge him any he gets from the involvement.

His body language was interesting in the media shots.

 

[sptrawler]

His body language was interesting in the media shots.

His body language, is allways interesting, obviously not overly confident with his image.

 

[Calliope]

And in war, this case fire, should not be on the front line risking his life. As you become experienced you learn to lead from behind and delegate down.

No idea of being a leader that's for sure.

As a Greenie, you, of course are opposed to bushfire prevention. Now you want to denigrate those who fight the fires.

As a former high ranking Plod I expect you led from behind.

 

[Julia]

Not sure that we could find real malice aforethought.

In the heat of some discussions emotions fly, mixed with biases, left v right as well as social background. Bad comment yes but in the light the thread's supposed or emergent spirit, understandable.

One of these days, explod, just try a bit of objectivity on for size in place of your ever obvious political bias.
And, while you're about it, give us a post detailing Julia Gillard's voluntary contributions to the community.
I can't wait.

You are joking surely. Publicity written all over it.

Absolute rubbish. You should be ashamed of such a nasty comment. See Sails' very accurate post below.

Tony Abbott has long history of volunteering and community activism. It's for real.

Good for you, basilio, to at least make this acknowledgement. Explod should do a bit of research before making such facile comments.

And surely the electorate is entitled to know where Abbott has gone when Truss is taking the reigns in his absence? He is on the public payroll and I don't see any problem.

Labor has done nothing but try to destroy Abbott's image. I don't see any problem in letting people into his life. Many did not even know of his fire fighting interest - I didn't know how long until yesterday.

Gillard has let people into her personal life in the lodge obviously in an attempt to gain public support. I don't see why Abbott should continue to stay quiet about his community service for so many years especially when labor go out of their way to smear him.

It's about time the public knew that Abbott has been helping in the community for a long time. Not only fires, but also surf life saving and aboriginal work.

Have your ever complained when Gillard has had photo shoots with school children, holding babies or any other such thing? And that's not actually helping anyone - just publicity shoots.

+1 x 100. You sum it up well, sails.

Sounds good but unfortunately you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. When you do a bit of research to find the extent of his qualifications as a firefighter you will realise the stupidity of your statements.

He is highly experienced and qualified, having been involved in his rural brigade for years.

Cheers
Country Lad

Exactly.

The sort of ill informed pure political bias shown on this thread - and others - is just woeful.

 

[explod]

Sometimes when one tosses a small pebble into the pond,

it turns out to be a rock into a puddle, you are wrong and all the water is gone too.

However it does demonstrate how treacherous the waters do become when extremes of biased emotions try to outbid each other.

Having started out at 14 years on the back of one of the Hawkesdale West fire-trucks holding a trailing wick when we did the two chain firebreaks, fighting them and later co-ordinating in my career I have also taken as now a close interest in the fire seasons and the effectiveness of control.

One of the greatest problems is communication. Most of the leaders in the CFA continually call for proper use of community radio. In fires situation, mobile phones, computers and normal commercial radio are useless. The need to act and tell people needs to be from the area coordinators direct to the people and fast. This is a glaring problem now and has been blaring at us since Ash Wednesday.

As the leader of the opposition and a senior minister in the Howard Government these problems should have been highlighted by Mr Abbott and by now solved. Now this discussion is off topic and some will say an attempt to exonerate myself.

Not at all I am sorry for my stupid comments yesterday.

However if Abbott had been a vocal voice in trying to make the fire-fighting services more efficient I would probably, due to my own interest in this service have known what I should have about him.

Uppercuts and smacks accepted.

On topic, a good and faithful Indian I do now see, but not really leadership material on the evidence presented.

 

[Logique]

I think it's good for leaders of political parties to be out and amongst it, it keeps them grounded and in touch. Canberra is such a fishbowl.

What's a PM supposed to do, ignore national disasters? The PM is needed on the ground to bolster morale.

What's a year-long brigade member supposed to do when there's a fire, say I can't go I'm the Opposition Leader? Abbott is participating fully, and has delayed his annual holidays to come down with his brigade. As for publicity, the press sniff things out pretty quickly, especially in small communities, it was never going to be a secret.

 

[IFocus]

Sometimes when one tosses a small pebble into the pond,

it turns out to be a rock into a puddle, you are wrong and all the water is gone too.

However it does demonstrate how treacherous the waters do become when extremes of biased emotions try to outbid each other.

Having started out at 14 years on the back of one of the Hawkesdale West fire-trucks holding a trailing wick when we did the two chain firebreaks, fighting them and later co-ordinating in my career I have also taken as now a close interest in the fire seasons and the effectiveness of control.

One of the greatest problems is communication. Most of the leaders in the CFA continually call for proper use of community radio. In fires situation, mobile phones, computers and normal commercial radio are useless. The need to act and tell people needs to be from the area coordinators direct to the people and fast. This is a glaring problem now and has been blaring at us since Ash Wednesday.

As the leader of the opposition and a senior minister in the Howard Government these problems should have been highlighted by Mr Abbott and by now solved. Now this discussion is off topic and some will say an attempt to exonerate myself.

Not at all I am sorry for my stupid comments yesterday.

However if Abbott had been a vocal voice in trying to make the fire-fighting services more efficient I would probably, due to my own interest in this service have known what I should have about him.

Uppercuts and smacks accepted.

On topic, a good and faithful Indian I do now see, but not really leadership material on the evidence presented.

I guess its a question avoided here regularly in regards to Abbott.

Is he out there to make a difference or is here out there as a politician for the photo?

As I said his body language with the Volly's was truly fascinating.

Given his senior position in politics I would have thought he could do far more for the interests of any area he chooses in the parliament.

What we got was a year of Abbott calling the prime minister a liar which in itself was a lie nothing else.

Still as I said before I don't begrudge him any positive feedback he gets of it but I do think its naive to think it gets any thing done .

 

[dutchie]

At least Abbott was there with genuine intentions to fight fires.

Did you see the 'RANGER' there making sandwiches and handing out cups of tea to firies or was she there for the photo shoot with that stupid grin of hers?

She makes me want to throw up every time I see her on TV taking advantage of a dangerous situation.

"LOOK AT ME, I AM HERE, CAN EVRYONE SEE ME. I AM HERE TO GIVE SUPPORT"

Where was she when the ''GOOSE" had to admit he was not going to make for a surplus buget as promised?

Rudd gave her lessons.

 

[IFocus]

Logique;747450As for publicity, the press sniff things out pretty quickly, especially in small communities, it was never going to be a secret.

Nope, Abbott ran it out on Twitter.

 

[Logique]

I bet every volunteer is sending tweets or sms to worried families and associates. People need to know where he is and what he's doing. That's not the same thing as a press release.

 

[Calliope]

What we got was a year of Abbott calling the prime minister a liar which in itself was a lie nothing else.

But she is a liar! Abbott doesn't have to convince the electorate, everyone knows this...except you, apparently.

What we got was a year of the handbag brigade, coached by that low-life John McTernan, getting down in the gutter to try to smear Tony Abbott as a misogynist, a sexist and a Catholic. Led by that awful Gillard they have effectively managed to sully his good name by calling in the feminist tweeters, coaching them, and giving them free rein to spread her hate Abbott message.