Tommy Robinson and the new Totalitarianism

moXJO · 8 August 2018

basilio said:
I found all the analysis of the secret barrister very illuminating. Lots of law, lots of exploration of legal procedures. Well worth a read.

I'm not surprised that other posters have excised particular comments that somehow shine a favourable light on the issue on repeated contempt charges against Tommy. For what its worth I'll also add the final comments made by the secret barrister. In my view it puts it all in persepective.

I think I may have been. But looking back over the litany of plainly false statements circulated between May and now – that Robinson’s “reporting” was nothing more than the BBC had done; that he was targeted by the deep state; that Robinson’s original barrister was an “unqualified duty solicitor”; that TR was never in contempt of court as the trial was over; that the courts were “covering up” serious crimes by certain racial groups; the dishonest framing of the debate as one of “free speech” rather than interfering with justice; and the other hundreds of fantastical theories clogging my Twitter notifications today – I’d suggest, self-servingly, that an inaccurate but well-meaning prediction – such as we all make in the courts every day – is lesser a social evil than the deliberate, racially-tinged misinformation campaign that we do our best to counter.

The courts stuffing up on Robinson is a major blunder. Here is a guy fighting the system, has a huge base and whos platform is basically "government is corrupt and in the pocket of Muslims.

So what does the judge do. Stuff up the case. So now we can legitimize that it was biased because you would have to be stupid to stuff up the case in such a way. On top of that he is sent to a Muslim majority prison which is just handing away ammo.

This was a case that was going to be scrutinized. I think we found the laws early on and I personally thought he was guilty after reading them and still do. But the way it has been handled is like a benny hill episode.

So they real question is why was it done on such a tinder dry case?

wayneL · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
Taken down I think.

This looney was going on about how every school kid should have a picture of Hitler on their desk and other such cr@p.

Some cursory investigation revealed that (and the mein kampf comment) was posted by a parody account, not Cottrel.

moXJO · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
Taken down I think.

This looney was going on about how every school kid should have a picture of Hitler on their desk and other such cr@p.

Ill see if I can find it. Yeah I've heard a bunch of stuff about him like that.

wayneL · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
Okay Horace. I can see the guy is anti Islamist. That is not necessarily a Nazi position.

Can you detail what his views are that makes him neo Nazi.

Before doing so, perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the actual policies of Nationalsozialistische, many of which are in common with the modern left, more than the right.

Ps, he may be, but I can't find enough info to make that determination.

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

This is the interview.

I'm not going to bother watching it, but others may be interested.

SMH article about him.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/bla...-hitler-in-the-classroom-20151016-gkbbvz.html

moXJO · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
This is the interview.

I'm not going to bother watching it, but others may be interested.

SMH article about him.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/bla...-hitler-in-the-classroom-20151016-gkbbvz.html

I reckon if hitler came back from the dead, every news channel would be climbing over each other to get him on.
Haven't we interviewed mass murderers, rapists, human rights abusers, etc without the outrage.

If they want to hang him socially, then tear him apart in an interview. Rather then let him get a cult following by making him taboo. Silencing voices rarely works in the social media age. Informed discussion might.

He sounds like a white nationalist.

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

moXJO said:
If they want to hang him socially, then tear him apart in an interview. Rather then let him get a cult following by making him taboo.

Giving people like that any publicity at all is more than they are worth.

Lantern · 8 August 2018

Well I hope Tommy sues their bottoms off when he gets back from holiday.

wayneL · 8 August 2018

moXJO said:
He sounds like a white nationalist.

Yeah, probably your fair dinkum "alt right" identitarian.

I wouldn't say he was a gen-u-wine neo-nazi.

wayneL · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
Giving people like that any publicity at all is more than they are worth.

He's not my cup of tea Horace, but Im just curious; what is it that you find so exceedingly offensive that you don't believe he should be interviewed?

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
He's not my cup of tea Horace, but Im just curious; what is it that you find so exceedingly offensive that you don't believe he should be interviewed?

Do you think that there should be photographs of Hitler in every classroom wayne ?

wayneL · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
Do you think that there should be photographs of Hitler in every classroom wayne ?

I stand to be corrected Horace, but I don't think he actually said that. I'm led to believe it was a parody account on Twitter that said that.

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
I stand to be corrected Horace, but I don't think he actually said that. I'm led to believe it was a parody account on Twitter that said that.

Did you read the SMH article about him that I linked ?

wayneL · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
Did you read the SMH article about him that I linked ?

He certainly seems and unsavoury sort of character, Horace. But the only citation I could find regarding the Hitler comment is the article itself. Forgive me for not trusting the mainstream press but is there some other evidence of these comments being his own words?

I ask as someone who has been completely misrepresented and misquoted in the mainstream press myself. Nothing like the gravitas being discussed here, but caused me a fair degree of embarrassment.

In any case, *if true, I am happy that it has been aired, so I can speak against that. *If not true, then happy to still disagree with him on a range of other issues, but also on the dishonesty of the media.

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
Forgive me for not trusting the mainstream press but is there some other evidence of these comments being his own words?

What makes you think they are not ?

wayneL · 8 August 2018

SirRumpole said:
What makes you think they are not ?

He denies it.

So either Cottrel is lying, or SMH is lying.

At this point, I trust neither, not one iota.

So, will look to actual evidence.

moXJO · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
I wouldn't say he was a gen-u-wine neo-nazi.

More like an angry young man with a soapbox.

SirRumpole · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
He denies it.

So either Cottrel is lying, or SMH is lying.

Well then, he should sue the SMH if they defamed him.

basilio · 8 August 2018

wayneL said:
He denies it.

So either Cottrel is lying, or SMH is lying.

At this point, I trust neither, not one iota.

So, will look to actual evidence.

The evidence for Cottrels original statement and the fact that he is lying when he denies ever saying it ?
Go to SMH article Rumpy noted and look at the video. Comes up in black and white.

As Rumpy said, if in fact this is untrue he can do them for defamation. But that is hardly likely because Cottrel is an out and out admirer of Adolf Hitler isn't he ?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/bla...-hitler-in-the-classroom-20151016-gkbbvz.html

basilio · 8 August 2018

If you want to see part of the reasons behind Cottrel being banned from Twitter for a week as well as the outrage at Sky News you can see the offeding tweets here. Plenty of free speech here..

Politics
That Sky News Neo-Nazi Has Been Suspended By Twitter After Tweeting About Raping A Journalist

http://junkee.com/blair-cottrell-sky-news-twitter/170738

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