This guy's so shy he's never kissed a girl

[lukeaye]

I dont see why sexual freedom is such a forwards thinking idea... adultry was rampant 4000 years ago just as it is now... no difference.

Religions may have been the cause of many wars.. but so has oil, gold and communism. What relevance does this have on the topic??

No, we are not animals. Clearly our oposable thumbs, ability to record history, develop technology and adapt our environments to our needs as opposed to adapting to our environments sets us apart from other species. Just because the pig down at the farm is wallowing in filth - are you going to join in?

The relevance Jono, is that your values are based on religion, im questioning religion. look at muslims extremists declaring jihad they also have core beleifs, i wont roll in mud, but will you blow yourself and innocent others up as well?

Well jono if god didnt want us to have sex, why did he make it so pleasureable? if he didnt want us to have sex before marriage, why do we lust? if the act of fornication or pleasure is so forbidden, then you shouldnt be allowed to masturbate either. Isnt that a mroe sinful act?

I understand wars have been started over those things as well, but look through history the largest and most devastating wars have been started by religion. wars rage in the middle east still of a holy nature. I bet god is sick at what is being done in his name. Im merely stating that churchs and religions lost their way long ago. that we do not interpret in the way that god wanted.

So if i want to enjoy myself with some DD blonde on the weekend, i for one don't think im going to hell. I'm not hurting anyone, im not killing anyone, im not upseting anyone, if anything we are brining each other closer to god!

And i dont think you should base your beliefs and values on what some corrupt preacher tells you. dont even get me started on what holy preachers have done in "gods" name.

And Jono if you dont think we evolved from animals, how do you think we got here? dont be so naive.
As i stated before i believe in god, i believe in the after life, but i dont believe in religion. why would i believe in something that has killed more then cancer, and aids combined.

 

[lukeaye]

Jono, what im basically trying to say is, dont think that because you held off having sex before marriage, you winning pionts with god. If you want to do that then power to you.

But god knows, i dont have that restraint.

 

[drsmith]

lol

keep on dreaming dr smith.. the problems from multiple partners and unprotected sex is killing men and women. no one is prohibiting anything, and never did i say that, your just taking things out of context.. why not stay on the subject of what causes std's?? your just ignoring the facts here and saying the reason for the problem is not std's.. std's cause all sorts of health issues, just because it feels great for men and women to be part of the sexual revolution doesnt mean that you can ignore the cause of these infections, which are spreading, and not decreasing. they are directly related to the behavior itself..



it one of those sleepers, screw round and brag, but unfortunately there is a strong case for abstinence, and to join jono and his beliefs, which i commend, would at least save him and others from risk..

STD increases prostate cancer risk

Infection with a common sexually transmitted parasite places men at greater risk of developing the most aggressive and deadly form of prostate cancer.

While cases infected with the parasite known as Trichomonas vaginalis are easily treated, some 50 to 75 percent of men with trichomoniasis never develop any symptoms and, therefore, remain unidentified.

According to a study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, men infected with the parasite are more likely to develop prostate cancer later in life.

Furthermore, these men are 2.7 times as likely to die of the disease once they have developed prostate cancer.

Scientists concluded that STD infection makes prostate cancers more aggressive and more likely to progress.

"If we can find out how to prevent prostate cancer, and in particular prevent an aggressive form or lethal form of this disease, it will be an important development for reducing the mortality rate for men," said lead researcher Lorelei Mucci.



they should endorse jono's example, and that would go a long way to eliminating the parasite

imho jono has every right to follow his ideals and should not be criticised in any way for them... keep fighting for it jono!!

the bible itself is always a book of rules and morals that people dont like to endorse, but perhaps some of the rules have credibility?

Jono's example is no sex before marriage so the comment to which you refer is hardly out of context.

That being said perhaps you can clarify the maximum number of sexual partners you feel we should have during the course of our lives ?

 

[drsmith]

I'm not abstaining from kissing... i was just noting that I had not kissed a girl.. see post 2. What I am abstaining from is sex.

And post 33 clarified why although you did indicate some backing away from that stance in post 56 which is a good thing.

The thing in bold is not a religious requirement... its just I would find it difficult to relate to someone if we dont have the same religious values...

If you don't mind being asked, what specific religion are we talking about here ?

I dont see why sexual freedom is such a forwards thinking idea... adultry was rampant 4000 years ago just as it is now... no difference.

Sex before marriage in itself is not adultery.

No, we are not animals. Clearly our oposable thumbs, ability to record history, develop technology and adapt our environments to our needs as opposed to adapting to our environments sets us apart from other species. Just because the pig down at the farm is wallowing in filth - are you going to join in?

While the above response was not in the specific context of sex before marriage, do you regard all sex before marriage as wallowing in filth ?

 

[Julia]

With apologies for being a bit off topic, Jono you're studying to be a doctor.
Have you decided what field of medicine will claim your interest?

Just wondering what you'd do if you were a GP or a gynaecologist and a young single woman came to you for sexual advice, contraception, or termination?

Would your personal religious beliefs preclude your making available to her the information or services she's seeking?

If not, how would you handle her consultation?

And if so, likewise how would you handle her consultation?

 

[JTLP]

and please elaborate on how teh church is a hypocritical institution??

With apologies for being a bit off topic, Jono you're studying to be a doctor.
Have you decided what field of medicine will claim your interest?

Just wondering what you'd do if you were a GP or a gynaecologist and a young single woman came to you for sexual advice, contraception, or termination?

Would your personal religious beliefs preclude your making available to her the information or services she's seeking?

If not, how would you handle her consultation?

And if so, likewise how would you handle her consultation?

Great post Julia.

Jono...the hypocrisy of the church would ruin this topic that is about you...so I will not get into it here. But perhaps brush up on some history and read about some wars...then you'll get my drift (and that's barely scratching the surface).

 

[white_goodman]

I think the problem is that he's putting the pussy on a pedestal

 

[Kowabunga]

Hey is it true that if you don't use it you lose it?

 

[lukeaye]

I think the problem is that he's putting the pussy on a pedestal

Amen, how many times do you have to tell people that. funniest movie haha

Hey is it true that if you don't use it you lose it?

yeah well in his case he will lose his mind.

What happens when you religious values get in the way of stem cells, or organ transplant.

Jono what if your "soul mate" is an absolute sex machine and she wants to get down and dirty 5 times a day 7 days a week.

 

[white_goodman]

You know how I know you're gay? You have a rainbow bumper sticker on your car that says, "I like it when balls are in my face."

 

[Mr J]

Jono what if your "soul mate" is an absolute sex machine and she wants to get down and dirty 5 times a day 7 days a week.

Sexual incompatibility. But hey, maybe he'll be down for it to make up for what he's missed.

 

[jono1887]

With apologies for being a bit off topic, Jono you're studying to be a doctor.
Have you decided what field of medicine will claim your interest?

Just wondering what you'd do if you were a GP or a gynaecologist and a young single woman came to you for sexual advice, contraception, or termination?

Would your personal religious beliefs preclude your making available to her the information or services she's seeking?

If not, how would you handle her consultation?

And if so, likewise how would you handle her consultation?

I am probably going to go into surgery... probably in cardiothorasic or neuro... However, if I were a GP or gyno.. it is the role of the doctor to be objective in the treatments that they provide and to not impose any of their personal beliefs. As I have stated earlier... these are my personal views and I have no intention of converting anyone here on this forum. This would also be the case if I was a doctor. I would handle the consultation objectively...

Last time I checked.. doctors didnt give sexual advice, im sure thats for therapist. But as for the latter 2 - sexual contraception or termination I have no objections towards either. People may argue that they are killing life or what not but as stated in the bible.. every life is planned. If the child is being terminated, it was God's intention in the first place. But as for advice.. i would say what is medically appropriate and nothing else.

 

[jono1887]

If you don't mind being asked, what specific religion are we talking about here ??

Christianity

The relevance Jono, is that your values are based on religion, im questioning religion. look at muslims extremists declaring jihad they also have core beleifs, i wont roll in mud, but will you blow yourself and innocent others up as well?.

Im not muslim.. doesn't apply.

Well jono if god didnt want us to have sex, why did he make it so pleasureable? if he didnt want us to have sex before marriage, why do we lust? if the act of fornication or pleasure is so forbidden, then you shouldnt be allowed to masturbate either. Isnt that a mroe sinful act?

I never said that he didnt want us to have sex. He doesnt want us to have sex outside of marriage. The act of pleasure is not forbidden.

Why shouldnt you be allowed to masturbate? how is that even relevant?

Why you lust? i cant answer that... i guessing something to do with various chemicals in your head making you desire something...get back to me in 6 years and ill explain how the human brain works..

So if i want to enjoy myself with some DD blonde on the weekend, i for one don't think im going to hell. I'm not hurting anyone, im not killing anyone, im not upseting anyone, if anything we are brining each other closer to god!

how the heck is that going to bring you closer to god?

And i dont think you should base your beliefs and values on what some corrupt preacher tells you. dont even get me started on what holy preachers have done in "gods" name.

And Jono if you dont think we evolved from animals, how do you think we got here? dont be so naive.
As i stated before i believe in god, i believe in the after life, but i dont believe in religion. why would i believe in something that has killed more then cancer, and aids combine

Why should i listen to you over a preacher... and what makes you think they are all corrupt?

Not everyone believes in the theory of evolution. Besides its only a theory.
If you choose to place your self at the same level as one, than that is your choice..

How has God/religion killed more than cancer and aids combined? And what records are you basing this on? As far as i know.. there are no records for the deaths from religious wars or cancer/aid (which was not diagnosed within the last century)?

 

[lukeaye]

So if i want to enjoy myself with some DD blonde on the weekend, i for one don't think im going to hell. I'm not hurting anyone, im not killing anyone, im not upseting anyone, if anything we are brining each other closer to god!

how the heck is that going to bring you closer to god?

My point exactly jono. im afraid your are years off knowing.

the funny thing is. once you are married and have sex, you will be the one realising what you have been missing, and so you will be the one committing adultery. funny how the world works.

 

[Mr J]

Jono, if God is everywhere and sees everything, does that mean he watches us have sex?

Lukeaye, your original response gave me a good laugh .

the funny thing is. once you are married and have sex, you will be the one realising what you have been missing

Jono, have you considered that there's a good chance you will regret your decision?

 

[lukeaye]

as long as somebody is laughing with me haha

 

[JTLP]

My point exactly jono. im afraid your are years off knowing.

the funny thing is. once you are married and have sex, you will be the one realising what you have been missing, and so you will be the one committing adultery. funny how the world works.

Perhaps it is a case of ignorance is bliss though. By Jono not having sex now...it means nothing to him. He can't appreciate it (not a shot at you Jono) therefore he can't comprehend what he's been missing.

Remember to be respecting his decision here and not making fun of him...he has been kind enough to share his life and opinions on the topic.

 

[jono1887]

Jono, if God is everywhere and sees everything, does that mean he watches us have sex?

Lukeaye, your original response gave me a good laugh .



Jono, have you considered that there's a good chance you will regret your decision?

whats a mere 25-30 years abstaining to eternity in hell... :

*this is a joke... dont take it too seriously

I think most of you are forgetting im only 18... its not like ive wasted away my life.. there will be many years of great sex once im married.

 

[lukeaye]

jono, i have had sex with my fair share of women, and i can tell you, not all of them have been great, you may end up with one that isnt great, or isnt into it. what then? you cant divorce or you will go to hell, you cant comitt adultery you will go to hell, your ****ed. you suffer an eternity with your hand and the interent, a constant reminder of what you could have had, but never got.

 

[Mr J]

whats a mere 25-30 years abstaining to eternity in hell... :

*this is a joke... dont take it too seriously

I think most of you are forgetting im only 18... its not like ive wasted away my life.. there will be many years of great sex once im married.

I don't know Jono, Satan doesn't seem all that bad to me :.

18, and then 23, and then 28 and so on. What if you never meet a girl you want to marry, and who wants to marry you?

jono, i have had sex with my fair share of women, and i can tell you, not all of them have been great, you may end up with one that isnt great, or isnt into it

For someone who hasn't had any other experience and has held out for so long, I'm sure a girl as exciting as a plank of wood would give him a good time. Sorry Jono .