This guy's so shy he's never kissed a girl

[jono1887]

It serves no useful purpose.

A far tougher question is the determination of which values are actually worth standing by.

To you perhaps not... but I want to stand by my religious beliefs.

I might be wrong, but I had the impression dr smith was suggesting your values were of a double standard in that you don't mind the future Mrs jono not being a virgin, but demand it of yourself.
Does that really sound logical to you?

(Not trying to talk you out of it, jono, your business absolutely, but just pointing out the illogical nature of your argument.)

And again, whilst not suggesting this is at all the case in your situation, occasionally a high moral stand can mask a fear of failure, in which case it would be maybe good for anyone in such a situation to have a few, um, practice rounds before that eventual wedding night.

Apologies if I'm being indelicate.

Perhaps I should reiterate.. I would like to find a girl who is a virgin, however what my previous comment stated was that I would not reject a 'soul mate' if thats what you want to call it just because she's had sex in the past. Now, with that being said.. I would also only consider marrying someone with the same religious beliefs as me. Hence, they may have had sex in the past, but have converted and have since abstained...

 

[Naked shorts]

I dated this girl for a while. She was really a... nasty freak. She just loved to get down with sex all the time. It was like... anytime of day, she was like, "Yeah, let's go! I'm so nasty!" And I'd be nailing her and she'd be like, "Oh, you're nailing me! Cool!

I'm going to create a hall of fame for posts one day. This will be in it.

 

[insider]

Meet the man so shy he's never even kissed a woman

I wonder what his ASF member name is ?

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4626075.Meet_the_man_so_shy_he_s_never_even_kissed_a_woman/

Maybe he's gay... Just a thought...

Goodness sake, what's this guy's problem?
too shy to kiss a girl and yet he's appears in the Argus?

I'm sure there must be a nice blind lady out there who wont know hes a ginger

 

[overit]

I'm going to create a hall of fame for posts one day. This will be in it.

Yeah cant wait for the video to come out either! :

 

[AlterEgo]

Yeah cant wait for the video to come out either! :

In case you don't realise, it's actually a quote from the "40 Year Old Virgin" movie - absolutely hilarious movie!

Jono - I think people on here are being a bit hard on you. Good on you for sticking by your morals and not succumbing to peer pressure. But please don't turn in to the main character of that movie though! lol

 

[JTLP]

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Jono I pose a question...i'm sure when people first get a girlfriend they aren't imposing a time constraint on them and expiring them after x amount of years. Why would you date somebody if you didn't think it had some chance? And what if your 'soul mate' decided that you were not her 'soul mate'...you're chance of being Cinderalla is over!

No offense, but I don't respect religion. The Church is such an overbearing, hypocritical institution that would brainwash you in any way possible just to get a few extra dollars out of you. And before you throw a tanty I have been baptised and broken bread with the big man (so to speak).

By all means good on you for having beliefs and values...but be careful not to go through life wondering. Sexual experimentation can be an amazing thing when you are young, and unfortunately for yourself sexual intimacy is held in quite high esteem in relationships...so you better bring your A Game first time round.

Also, what happens if you are 'hung like a horse' and she is as 'tight as a fishes bottom'...this won't work.

And finally...i'd hate for your big day to arrive and something like this to happen:

 

[Mr J]

Good on you for sticking by your morals and not succumbing to peer pressure.

What a ridiculous suggestion. He's 18, not 13, so it's a matter of natural instinct, not peer pressure. He's denying his own existence, not holding the high ground.

 

[Agentm]

jono

having a belief in the ideal of virginity is not such a bad thing imho,

i have a good friend of mine who has cervical cancer, diagnosed last week, pretty advanced, so her current prognosis is dire but with treatment there are survivors..

my sister had it last year, and i know a few more who have had it..

wanting a women who is not infected with a sexually transmitted virus prior to engaging in a relationship is one way of reducing the chances of both you not being a carrier and her not being infected, as long as you both remain a virgins prior to marriage and follow the steps your religion asks..

its a safe passage

the only cause of the cervical cancer is the Human Papilloma Virus, or HPV, and your ideals imho avoids the possibility of experiencing the severe repercussions later that this virus causes, and is more than worthy of a passing thought.

as much as having as many sexual partners is the best thing out there atm, and as much as the liberated sexual lifestyles of the current generations is absolutely fantastic, who, besides you, is going to stand against the massive ground swell of current liberated ideals on sexuality?

there are consequences. and women cop it big time, as cervical cancer is now the second most prevelant cancer in women world wide (australia has better figures btw) its obvious spread easy, and its a virus which is carried by men, and is not a concern to them atm either, and women are being thinned out big time by this nasty little piece of work..

we all want to be on board the sexual revolution, and not miss the party.. but for women imho the more partners they expose themselves to in their quest to find that perfect man is also a journey likely to nail them later..

newtons law, for every action there is a........

 

[AlterEgo]

What a ridiculous suggestion. He's 18, not 13, so it's a matter of natural instinct, not peer pressure. He's denying his own existence, not holding the high ground.

I’m not saying that I agree with Jono. But people are entitled to make up their own minds as to how they wish to spend their lives. You guys seem to be trying to talk him in to doing something that he wouldn’t be comfortable in doing. However, I do hope that this is his own decision, and that he’s not abstaining just because his church may tell him to (ie. peer pressure from the church).

 

[drsmith]

jono

having a belief in the ideal of virginity is not such a bad thing imho,

i have a good friend of mine who has cervical cancer, diagnosed last week, pretty advanced, so her current prognosis is dire but with treatment there are survivors..

my sister had it last year, and i know a few more who have had it..

wanting a women who is not infected with a sexually transmitted virus prior to engaging in a relationship is one way of reducing the chances of both you not being a carrier and her not being infected, as long as you both remain a virgins prior to marriage and follow the steps your religion asks..

its a safe passage

the only cause of the cervical cancer is the Human Papilloma Virus, or HPV, and your ideals imho avoids the possibility of experiencing the severe repercussions later that this virus causes, and is more than worthy of a passing thought.

as much as having as many sexual partners is the best thing out there atm, and as much as the liberated sexual lifestyles of the current generations is absolutely fantastic, who, besides you, is going to stand against the massive ground swell of current liberated ideals on sexuality?

there are consequences. and women cop it big time, as cervical cancer is now the second most prevelant cancer in women world wide (australia has better figures btw) its obvious spread easy, and its a virus which is carried by men, and is not a concern to them atm either, and women are being thinned out big time by this nasty little piece of work..

we all want to be on board the sexual revolution, and not miss the party.. but for women imho the more partners they expose themselves to in their quest to find that perfect man is also a journey likely to nail them later..

newtons law, for every action there is a........

You have my deepest sympathies in relation to those close to you who have cervical cancer but the above argument against sex before marriage is just another variation of fire and brimstone.

For the prevention of SID's there are condoms, not that these should be necessary in any relationship where there is sufficient trust between the partners.

 

[drsmith]

Perhaps I should reiterate.. I would like to find a girl who is a virgin, however what my previous comment stated was that I would not reject a 'soul mate' if thats what you want to call it just because she's had sex in the past. Now, with that being said.. I would also only consider marrying someone with the same religious beliefs as me. Hence, they may have had sex in the past, but have converted and have since abstained...

With regard to the comment in bold, is this a requirement you have placed upon yourself (like abstinence from kissing) or a requirement of your religion ?

 

[Mr J]

I’m not saying that I agree with Jono. But people are entitled to make up their own minds as to how they wish to spend their lives. You guys seem to be trying to talk him in to doing something that he wouldn’t be comfortable in doing. However, I do hope that this is his own decision, and that he’s not abstaining just because his church may tell him to (ie. peer pressure from the church).

Like having sex? It's a shame he wouldn't be comfortable with it, as by that age it should be natural. Of course it is his choice, but some people here are suggesting that abstaining suggests he has high morals etc. This is not true at all. Morals are an artificial construction, while sex is a completely natural act, and a very important one at that.

I do think he should have sex, not to pressure him into it because most people are having it, but because it's a natural act by this age. He can't judge it because he has never had it, and his view may change completely after he does. Waiting could end up being his greatest regret in life. It also means that he will lack sexual experience which may cause problems in relationships in the future.

 

[lukeaye]

The idea of viriginity is a religious value, I wonder why religion is so backward thinking, maybe becuase it was written over 2000 years ago?

I believe in god and the rest of it, but im sorry there have been more wars and more trouble caused over religion then anything else.

So to the arguement of should you have sex before marriage?

i say open your legs my dear, im comming in.

After all we are animals, and the animal insticnt is to appropriate. You look at all other animals that have sex for pleasure, and they do it like mad, dolphins, chimpanzeses etc.

There was a famous test done a while ago with a lab rat. an electrode was put into his head that would trigger his pleasure sensory. The way the rat could trigger these impulses was pressing down on a bar in his cage. the rat ignored all other impulses, the need for excercise, food and water, until the rat died, of pleasure!

Obiovusly this rat was unaware of religious values. I respect anyone with the restraint to hold off for sex before marriage. i do not judge you. But why do it? im having the time of my life, are you?

 

[Agentm]

You have my deepest sympathies in relation to those close to you who have cervical cancer but the above argument against sex before marriage is just another variation of fire and brimstone.

For the prevention of SID's there are condoms, not that these should be necessary in any relationship where there is sufficient trust between the partners.

lol

cervical cancer would be eliminated if people did, but its not the case and this little std is around because men dont.. you just dont know if you have it unless some symptoms show, but it often doesnt..

naivety over std's doesnt mean you wont be the potential carrier, you or your partner can get the disease and it sure doesnt mean your indescertions in your younger years wont kill your present wife cold.. its a virus that can lay dormant on men for years..

imho to give over to desire as the only way to behave is the reason why women are being infected by their partners.. you can have a great sex life without multiple partners and also in the case of jono you can wait for a partner with shared values and be more satisfied than anyone that your not carrying nasty std's nor her

if all men wore condoms and took responsibility toward their own health and the future health of other partners then we would be in a safer world.. buts sadly thats not the case.. cervical cancer remains the second most prevalent cancer in women

 

[Mr J]

if all men wore condoms and took responsibility toward their own health and the future health of other partners then we would be in a safer world..

Takes two to tango. When a man doesn't wear a condom, I'm quite sure the woman is aware of the fact.

 

[drsmith]

imho to give over to desire as the only way to behave is the reason why women are being infected by their partners.. you can have a great sex life without multiple partners and also in the case of jono you can wait for a partner with shared values and be more satisfied than anyone that your not carrying nasty std's nor her

Everything we do in life carries an element of risk. The best we can do is manage that risk and weigh it up against the potential reward.

In this context managing cervical cancer by prohibiting sex before marriage seems somewhat extreme.

 

[JTLP]

i say open your legs my dear, im comming in.

You know Jono is a boy right

 

[jono1887]

You know Jono is a boy right

hmm... was getting worried after reading that post :

 

[jono1887]

With regard to the comment in bold, is this a requirement you have placed upon yourself (like abstinence from kissing) or a requirement of your religion ?

I'm not abstaining from kissing... i was just noting that I had not kissed a girl.. see post 2. What I am abstaining from is sex.

The thing in bold is not a religious requirement... its just I would find it difficult to relate to someone if we dont have the same religious values...

Jono I pose a question...i'm sure when people first get a girlfriend they aren't imposing a time constraint on them and expiring them after x amount of years. Why would you date somebody if you didn't think it had some chance? And what if your 'soul mate' decided that you were not her 'soul mate'...you're chance of being Cinderalla is over!

No offense, but I don't respect religion. The Church is such an overbearing, hypocritical institution that would brainwash you in any way possible just to get a few extra dollars out of you. And before you throw a tanty I have been baptised and broken bread with the big man (so to speak).

Also, what happens if you are 'hung like a horse' and she is as 'tight as a fishes bottom'...this won't work.

considering the female anatomy is designed to push out a baby... i doubt that they are as 'tight as a fishes bottom'

also as i had said in a previous post.. i stated the illogicalities behind 'soul mates' and hence i dont believe that there is a single 'soul mate' for each individual in the world...

and please elaborate on how teh church is a hypocritical institution??

The idea of viriginity is a religious value, I wonder why religion is so backward thinking, maybe becuase it was written over 2000 years ago?

I believe in god and the rest of it, but im sorry there have been more wars and more trouble caused over religion then anything else.

After all we are animals, and the animal insticnt is to appropriate. You look at all other animals that have sex for pleasure, and they do it like mad, dolphins, chimpanzeses etc.

I dont see why sexual freedom is such a forwards thinking idea... adultry was rampant 4000 years ago just as it is now... no difference.

Religions may have been the cause of many wars.. but so has oil, gold and communism. What relevance does this have on the topic??

No, we are not animals. Clearly our oposable thumbs, ability to record history, develop technology and adapt our environments to our needs as opposed to adapting to our environments sets us apart from other species. Just because the pig down at the farm is wallowing in filth - are you going to join in?

 

[Agentm]

Everything we do in life carries an element of risk. The best we can do is manage that risk and weigh it up against the potential reward.

In this context managing cervical cancer by prohibiting sex before marriage seems somewhat extreme.

lol

keep on dreaming dr smith.. the problems from multiple partners and unprotected sex is killing men and women. no one is prohibiting anything, and never did i say that, your just taking things out of context.. why not stay on the subject of what causes std's?? your just ignoring the facts here and saying the reason for the problem is not std's.. std's cause all sorts of health issues, just because it feels great for men and women to be part of the sexual revolution doesnt mean that you can ignore the cause of these infections, which are spreading, and not decreasing. they are directly related to the behavior itself..



it one of those sleepers, screw round and brag, but unfortunately there is a strong case for abstinence, and to join jono and his beliefs, which i commend, would at least save him and others from risk..

STD increases prostate cancer risk

Infection with a common sexually transmitted parasite places men at greater risk of developing the most aggressive and deadly form of prostate cancer.

While cases infected with the parasite known as Trichomonas vaginalis are easily treated, some 50 to 75 percent of men with trichomoniasis never develop any symptoms and, therefore, remain unidentified.

According to a study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, men infected with the parasite are more likely to develop prostate cancer later in life.

Furthermore, these men are 2.7 times as likely to die of the disease once they have developed prostate cancer.

Scientists concluded that STD infection makes prostate cancers more aggressive and more likely to progress.

"If we can find out how to prevent prostate cancer, and in particular prevent an aggressive form or lethal form of this disease, it will be an important development for reducing the mortality rate for men," said lead researcher Lorelei Mucci.



they should endorse jono's example, and that would go a long way to eliminating the parasite

imho jono has every right to follow his ideals and should not be criticised in any way for them... keep fighting for it jono!!

the bible itself is always a book of rules and morals that people dont like to endorse, but perhaps some of the rules have credibility?