The West has lost its freedom of speech

[Tink]

David Leyonhjelm: NSW Senator lodges complaint over journalist’s claim he is an ‘angry white male’

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...e/news-story/7b647988a3c24751010275e1d273eb89

A FEDERAL politician has lodged a formal complaint before the Human Rights Commission under race hate laws for being publicly abused as an “angry white male”.

In the first complaint of its kind for the HRC under the controversial section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, NSW Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm has taken action against a journalist for what he claimed were remarks insulting to white men.

Under Section 18C, it is unlawful to commit an act which would reasonably offend or insult someone because of their race, colour, national or *ethnic origin.

Racial Discrimination Act: HRC accepts 18C complaint lodged by David Leyonhjelm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-13/hrc-accepts-18c-complaint-lodged-by-leyonhjelm/7838770

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'The best way to eliminate racism is to let it burst'

Senator Leyonhjelm said he made the complaint to help his case for abolishing 18C, which makes it unlawful for someone to do an act that is reasonably likely to "offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate" someone because of their race or ethnicity.

It was brought in by the Keating government in 1995.

He said his bill would be reintroduced into the Upper House this week, saying, "protecting our feelings" was not the role of the legal system.

"Supressing speech about racism does nothing to eliminate it," he said.

"The best way to eliminate racism is to let it burst out like boil."

Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi has also tabled a private member's bill to remove the words "insult" and "offend" from the Racial Discrimination Act.

Every Coalition backbench senator ”” with the exception of Victorian senator Jane Hume ”” signed on, as did seven crossbenchers, including Senator Leyonhjelm.

 

[Value Collector]

Why Political Correctness And Free Speech Can't Co-Exist

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I think they can,

 

[noco]

The case against the 3 QUT students has been dismissed and so it should have been......Triggs has nothing left in her morale standards and should resign or be sacked.

Hopefully the case against Bill Leak will reach the same fate.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...y/news-story/2cdd6137fb1058b115a92d5736142b0a

 

[dutchie]

The main reason for the Human Rights Commission to exist...............

Compensation

 

[Tisme]

Interesting how quickly people jumped on the change.org bandwagon for the Steve Price vs Jamila Rizvi nonsense.

 

[dutchie]

The main reason for the Human Rights Commission to exist...............

Compensation

Aaahh compensation....




Human Rights Commission applicant

 

[Tink]

I am glad to see the Liberals in Victoria are standing up for our freedoms and Western Culture, against these two Communists/destroyers, the Greens/Labor, imv

We also have our Christmas songs back.

After Trump was elected, Labor put out a confirmation notice that they are allowed back in schools.

They should never have tried to remove them, as they are a part of our culture, imv.

Christmas
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25726&page=6

 

[Tisme]

I am glad to see the Liberals in Victoria are standing up for our freedoms and Western Culture, against these two Communists/destroyers, the Greens/Labor, imv

We also have our Christmas songs back.

After Trump was elected, Labor put out a confirmation notice that they are allowed back in schools.

They should never have tried to remove them, as they are a part of our culture, imv.

Christmas
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25726&page=6

There are lots of denials and rewriting of recent history. In reality Tink, was there a ban or was it Principals being uber risk averse and bleeding hearts?

I was listening to the local ABC radio the other day and the commentator asked his guest, the deputy mayor of Brisbane, if it was true that the annual decoration of buses had been canned as per rumours. The guest explained that was not the case and that he was the fella who was judging the best display. Didn't stop the rumour starting then and there though.

 

[Tink]

Tisme, it is political correctness gone mad, imv.
This was a state issue.

All I can say is people are waking up to this political correctness, and trying to change our culture.
The amount of nativity scenes I have seen in Melbourne, has been wonderful to see.

Supposedly, Victoria was the only state in Australia that did not consider Christmas as a public holiday, which of course, counted a backlash again.

We also had a few bills trying to get passed that would silence us -- more culture wars, which didn't go through, thankfully, imv.

 

[dutchie]

Bill Leak at the 18C parliamentary inquiry:

Graham Perrett: Do you think there should be any limits to what you — or other cartoonists, for that matter — can lawfully express in cartoons?
Bill Leak: No, I do not. I think you either have freedom of speech or you do not.
(my bold)
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Bill Leak: You have raised what I think is one of the most important points about this. I think that that hypothetical person who does not have the backing of an organisation like News Corp is going to look at what happened to me and say: ‘That bloke really got into a lot of trouble for telling the truth. I better not tell it myself.’ If that is not a dampener on freedom of expression and freedom of speech, I do not know what is. To me, I think it is extremely sinister. I think it is downright sinister what the AHRC did in my case because that is precisely the message that it sent out to everyone: do not tell the truth; do not take a risk; speech is not free in this country.
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Bill Leak: No, I do not, because it might be for a whole lot of people for whom this is not a matter of immediate interest. If you look at the Human Rights Commission and the Race Discrimination Commissioner, you might think, ‘Are they supposed to be protecting human rights?’ I was concerned with the human rights of Aboriginal children. I am concerned about the human rights of Aboriginal women. They suffer from the most appalling levels of violence. They are 34 times more likely to finish up in hospital than white people in our community, but to mention that makes me a racist! For mentioning the shocking statistics that go along with sexual and physical abuse of children within Aboriginal communities, I get labelled a racist. It is absolutely absurd. It has nothing to do with racism at all. It is trying to stamp out truth.
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Bill Leak: So, yes, I understand that people are going to say, ‘I’m offended.’ But what I would say to you is that a lot of people rather enjoy being offended. It is actually rather cool to be offended these days. It is something that took a long time to get my own head around, and suddenly I realised that people are not looking at my cartoons with the intention of being amused; they want to be offended.
(my bold)
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...y/news-story/138cef1db1efbc3939033a83186c837f

 

[dutchie]

The West has lost.

Western civilisation is engaged in an internal culture war. The stakes are very high. If those that advocate the values of liberal democracy continue to cede ground to postmodernist & radical left narratives then our basic freedoms will disappear.

 

[Tink]

Do not be afraid

Do not abandon yourselves to despair. We are the Easter people and hallelujah is our song.

Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.

-- Pope John Paul II

 

[PZ99]

Freedom of speech comes from freedom of thought.

Not by blindly jumping on someone elses political / religious bandwagon.

 

[dutchie]

The West has lost.

Western civilisation is engaged in an internal culture war. The stakes are very high. If those that advocate the values of liberal democracy continue to cede ground to postmodernist & radical left narratives then our basic freedoms will disappear.

“The rules!" shouted Ralph, "you're breaking the rules!"

"Who cares?” came the response from the children.

Lord of the Flies

 

[wayneL]

My hero

 

[moXJO]

My hero

It's like watching brainwashed morons.
I understand how Hitler, Stalin, Mao all got going. People are idiots. I didn't think they could get anymore feverish after the #metoo era. But here we go.

We already went through the book burning phase, end of free speech, statue toppling and now movie banning.

All they need is the next Hitler to direct them all.

 

[PZ99]

Aren't they are still being directed by the last Hitler ?

As for Peter Hitchens, I think his brother was closer to the mark

 

[Smurf1976]

We already went through the book burning phase, end of free speech, statue toppling and now movie banning.

The one certainty is that further progress is now close to impossible.

If today’s attitude had prevailed in the past then every progressive cause from access to abortion to gay rights would have been shut down immediately for challenging the prevailing wisdom of the day.

Society was somewhat conservative in the 1980’s and 90’s but at least free thought and expression were valued meaning that progress was possible and actually occurring. No longer the case unfortunately.

 

[wayneL]

As for Peter Hitchens, I think his brother was closer to the mark

A great loss to rational thought indeed.

In these days however, Peter is a rare beacon of such.

 

[qldfrog]

The way i see it, with the left adopting taliban techniques means the dream of a centrist party is dead.
I am now keener than ever even to vote further right than i would feel comfortable.just to try to stop this wave of madness.
.i now understand US republicans....