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The West has lost its freedom of speech


In that case, they have now drawn attention to themselves, but my previous remarks about their chances of success still apply.
 
If Abbott wants to restore any credibility this is one broken promise he should honour.


Now is the time to say:


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/do-the-right-thing-on-free-speech/story-e6frg6n6-1227185063448
 
At the next election voters can make their choice knowing that the Coalition is the free speech party.’’

Strange, I thought the Coalition believe that nothing is free.

 
Yes. We all know that freedom of speech comes at a price. The price is to devepop cojones.
 
Naturally I agree. Let's have a few of yours, or even opinions, on the aborted repeal of 18C.
 

That's got to be an Urban Myth, a Porker Par Excellence.
If OUP argue that certain words or concepts diminish their ability to sell books into 150 countries, they'd have to block more topics than just pork and pigs. How about words like "bikini", "gay", or "pill" in books destined for the Vatican. "Goldilocks" would have to be forbidden in just about every Muslim country, lest the thought of a woman's hair incite limitless lust in laddies' loins. And aren't dogs also unclean animals in that particular superstition?

The mind boggles, and I sincerely hope that kind of nonsense stays well away from Australia's shores.
 
How about words like "bikini", "gay", or "pill" in books destined for the Vatican.

Do you think that these words could affect the microscopic sale of books in the Vatican? Maybe... but rubbishing and denigrating the Vatican and the Pope is probably a more popular pastime than upsetting Muslims, and it would probably enhance the sales of the books elsewhere. Probably not in Islamic countries, where they are averse to gays. bikinis and the pill.
 

That's got to be an Urban Myth, a Porker Par Excellence.

You could be half-right pixel. The article begins by stating – "in an apparent bid to avoid offending Muslims and Jews".

I’m, fairly sure there is no risk of offense to Jews, not when you can find the children’s book “Baxter the Pig Who Wanted to be Kosher” favourably reviewed by the Jewish Book Council



However, I have been searching for the Islamic version of this book without success, i.e. "Baxter, the Pig Who Wanted to Be Halal".
 
Sky News - grow some balls.


 
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Shame on Canada - they need to grow some balls as well


Section 18C still leaves the door open for similar charges here. I know that we have prejudiced judges here too, but I dont think any of them would be crazy enough to inpose jail time. Even Bolt didn't get jail time, but was convicted because the judge didn't like his "tone" I guess if he had used "tones" like Brazau used he could still be in jail. Of course, the chattering class would love that, but it makes a mockery of freedom of expression.

Mr Abbott, tear down this crazy law!
 
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Shame on Canada - they need to grow some balls as well
He said "things like 'I don't like Muslims'."
Unless we know what else he said "like" and in what context, it's easy to jump on the band wagon and cry foul.

Hating all people for their religion is a stupid generalisation. It's akin to Hitler hating all Jews. Who would want that covered under "freedom of speech"?
Rejecting aspects of a particular religion, ideally also offering a rational explanation for having formed such an opinion, would be far more palatable. Many Muslims that I know, as well as Jews and Christians, are only too willing to accept criticism and agree that their respective "Holy Scripture" is in dire need of an update.
Sadly though, these enlightened ones are rarely going public because they have also realised that religious belief is a rather persona "matter of the heart", as opposed to the more fundamental acolytes that feel the need to promote their brand and recruit members into their organisation.

It's the organisations, not the people, that I find appalling.
 
It's the organisations, not the people, that I find appalling.

If the content of the video is correct and truthful in its entirety then it is the judge who gave this guy jail time who I find appalling.
 

Interesting. These many Muslims who confide in you that they want to update their "holy scripture" are playing a dangerous game. Any Muslim who thinks they can update, rewrite or revise the quran ("the word of god") would be considered an apostate.

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