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The Voice

In our situation we have only had to deal with the PS, Centrelink, twice in recent times.
Both times very pleasantly surprised by the foresight and understanding and very quick decision making.
Perhaps we struck two blokes who were not having a bad day or as i would like to think that they were doers and doing what they were good at.
We did thank them at the time ans said how happy we were at being in and out in a very short space of time.
An elephant stamp for each of them.
 
Only been in CL twice in my life. Once regarding getting Medicare card sorted, once regarding my mum passing away

Both were good experiences, the staff kind and efficient.
 
It's changed imo. I've had to sort out a few people's issues that were getting screwed by centrelink over the last few decades.
The old disillusioned guard must have retired and they have the next generation through or something because they seem a million times better. I'm lucky to deal with them once a year though.

Same with services Australia. They have had an attitude readjustment over the years.
Police on the other hand seem to have got completely useless and utter prcks.
 
Bring back the birch or better still the cat 'o nine tails.
Singapore with the use of the rattan wonder stick could also be an answer.
I know when I recently suffered in great pain it was something that I did not want to re-visit me.
Dish out pain and plenty of it to these scum and I doubt if they would be wanting a second dose.
 

Yes, agreed. I hope that change is on the wind.

After the voice, disaffected voters are ready to shatter political convention
The old rules of politics are falling apart. The electorate is more temperamental, divided and volatile. The troubles of the Albanese government have two sources – its own mistakes and the fracturing of our political culture into subcultures.
The voice referendum reveals the erosion of our common purpose. The internal tension over the Israel-Hamas war is another prime exhibit. The central disorganising principle is the hostility between the public and elites (left or right) and the public’s distrust of institutional political power.


 
Gentlemen,
I started this Thread, to comment about the (then) upcoming referendum on "The Voice".
The voice debate is over. iIs finished.
If you want to discuss the problems of first Nations crime, go start a thread about it.
If you want to discuss the frailties, real or perceived of the Public service, ditto.
As for bringing back cat o nine tails, geez, i thought we had moved on from that.
The cruelty of some educators from the past should convince anyone with even a small amount of empathy that corporal punishment does nothing except engender firstly fear, then anger and finally hate in its victims.
Mick
 
Yes good point, what should a thread be called, crime and the breakdown of social norms, crime general, crime and how to deal with it, society and the fall in respect and accountability.
It is difficult to nail the issue, as it is so broad and our conditioning to say nothing that could be seen as discriminatory, hateful, non inclusive, defamatory, unkind, born out of spite, targeting, or any other way you try to explain bad behaviour, makes it very difficult to talk about the issue.
Now when a 90 year old woman gets raped, everyone just looks the other way, because they are scared to say anything, from fear they may well end up in more trouble than the rapist.
We have nurtured a very weird culture.
 
Mick I take your points. But I wonder if you or a loved one was assaulted and finished up in a bad way what your responses would be then. I doubt it would be "oh well they have suffered a hard to bad childhood so I will make exceptions for them. Not me I'm afraid. belt them and belt the ba*&*&tards hard.
 
How about we start a thread "is society sliding into dystopia" ?

Then we can post article of what we feel give us an indication of how our social norms and standards are improving or failing ?
A bit like our political or financial threads, where positives and negatives are aired, I'm not sure a thread like this would be acceptable in the politically correct world we live in currently.
How weird is that, I'm not sure if we are allowed to even talk about the subject.
 
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We have that, it is called The Lunatic Left
 
We have that, it is called The Lunatic Left
In a way that is true, the left scream blue murder if someone says something derogatory against one of their ideals or one of the champions.

Yet they say what the hell they like, about anyone who they deem is on the other side of the table to them and their cause.

I don't see any great improvements in the U.S since Biden has taken over from Trump, if anything most issues have worsened, yet not a peep about it from the left.
They are still running around in ever decreasing circles over Trump and he hasn't had any influence on the World stage for three years.
On every measurable metric IMO the U.S and the World has become less stable since Biden has arrived on the scene and Trump has had zero to do with the current issues.
is there any wonder that Trump is looking like getting re elected, he is looking like the most stable loony in the bin at the moment.

As Mick says, maybe the thread should be wound up, before it morphs into something completely different.
 
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Agree with Micks comments.

On the current teenage crime most (up to 80% +) comes from family dysfunction according to a psychologist that worked at Bandyup detention centre here in WA for 23 years, recidivism rate was 90% in other words locking up kids creates bigger criminals according to the numbers.

The police and courts is where it's all too late, the problem is a community one having said all that dont know what the answers are.
 

You started an interesting discussion on a public forum, theoretically the discussion is over when no one comments.

I agree that we must keep the discussion fair, civil, and open. In other words, remember that we’re all different and not to judge others.
 
Gentlemen,
I started this Thread, to comment about the (then) upcoming referendum on "The Voice".
The voice debate is over. iIs finished.
The debate is over in the formal sense but in practice I doubt we're anywhere near the end in terms of the implications.

Somewhat speculative at this stage but I think someone looking back 20 years from now will recognise it as a turning point much like various others throughout history. A point where things never went back to being quite how they were, the referendum itself was run but permanent change had occurred.

I mean that in the same way that, for example, there's various issues today where if we look back they're clearly traceable as resulting from or at least being heavily influenced by something occurring decades ago, especially during the Hawke - Keating era.

So I think we've at least plausibly seen a turning point the real implications of which will take many years to become apparent.
 
The cruelty of some educators from the past should convince anyone with even a small amount of empathy that corporal punishment does nothing except engender firstly fear, then anger and finally hate in its victims.

Well, it's obvious that under the mollycoddling Left the problem is getting worse.

If corporal punishment is too much for some, I would suggest chain gangs working on the roads or picking fruit, ie getting the thugs to do something useful and/or a tattoo on their foreheads saying "Rapist" or "murderer" or "thief", to let the innocent citizens know their crimes.

Also agree that it's thread drift and there is probably a more appropriate thread somewhere.
 
Hits the nail on the head, accurate assessment imo.
 

Jacinta Price accuses Albanese of ‘ignoring Indigenous issues’ after Voice failure​


Who would of thought, she now wants a voice.

Bad luck Jacinta, you lose, because you won.
 

Can't argue with that - "Anthony Albanese has been missing-in-action on Aboriginal issues following failed Voice to Parliament referendum"
 
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