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The city metropolitan people are mainly the ones that are voting yes anyway, Vic & NSW. I think he thinks that we're all members of the KKK out to get them. :D
 
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It will be interesting to see how much the vote follows the last election demographic, polling suggests it will closely follow it, with strong support from the inner city elite Labor strongholds.
That will please Albo, as it would confirm the continued popularity from his support base.
 
The Age newspaper (from Melbourne for those unfamiliar) has answered the question but not in the way they think.

On one hand there's an editorial headed "The polls say we won't. But Yes we can, and Yes we should" and as the heading implies that's a firmly pro-Yes editorial view from The Age. Several other articles, all pro-Yes or lamenting an assumed win for the No case, are also there on the website right now.

But, and here's the problem, when I look at other major stories I see:

1. "Bendigo's booming CBD needs to change. And the only way is up"

2. "Why our standard of living will be rising more slowly"

3. "Tobacco wars and hitmen: Ten things Victoria must do to fight crime gangs"

4. "Population surge could keep rates higher for longer, leading economist warns"

5. "Private employment services have failed, watchdog is needed: Inquiry head"

And there we have it.

On one hand the newspaper's openly pleading with people to support the Voice.

But story 1 above amounts to joining forces with those who seek to perpetuate artificial land scarcity that's already ruined a good portion of mainstream society. Bendigo, population about 120k, isn't exactly facing a land crisis.

Story 2 is a warning to the working class that they're going to take another kick in the face.

Story 3 is a reminder that Labor outright rejects the idea that consultation works when it comes to health and prefers to go down the track of hefty taxes and even outright prohibition.

Story 4 is a polite way of saying government's making life miserable for the working class.

Story 5 reminds everyone that the Coalition isn't any better. Also a reminder that once something's done, we're stuck with it since neither party will fix it.

The people aren't rejecting Aboriginal people or even the idea that some sort of recognition and assistance might be reasonable. What they're rejecting is the city-centric media, academic and political establishment delivering kick after kick to the rest.

Aboriginals are barely an issue in why there's opposition to the Voice, the politics of it mostly aren't about them in much the same way as, to use another issue as an example, the politics of climate change mostly isn't about the climate.
 
wayneL said:
Yes wil be a High Court schmozzle. Same opinion given to me by one of my clients who is a barrister (as mentioned previously in this thread)

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Our universities are setting us up for failure. Is this just normal? Have unis all been Lefties for a long time and they're just getting exposed at the moment? Must be hard to be a Young Liberal at a uni campus these days. Would be spat on daily I imagine.
 
Sean K said:
Our universities are setting us up for failure. Is this just normal? Have unis all been Lefties for a long time and they're just getting exposed at the moment? Must be hard to be a Young Liberal at a uni campus these days. Would be spat on daily I imagine.
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It's been like this for quite a while, some uni teachers here in Qld fail students if they use, him, her, she, or he in a sentence.
 
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It will be interesting to see how much the vote follows the last election demographic, polling suggests it will closely follow it, with strong support from the inner city elite Labor strongholds.
That will please Albo, as it would confirm the continued popularity from his support base.
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What the fall out if any for either side is hard to judge its the centre that the parties will watch closely which appears to have voted No.

What that means for Labor in the election year will likely have been drowned out by numerous events still to come.

I think Dutton is unelectable similar to Abbott but Labor managed to get Abbott elected although his own party decided he shouldn't have been.
 
IFocus said:
What the fall out if any for either side is hard to judge its the centre that the parties will watch closely which appears to have voted No.

What that means for Labor in the election year will likely have been drowned out by numerous events still to come.
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Regardless of the outcome, my hope is that society can move forward and actually fix at least some of the many problems Australia's facing.

In no particular order:

Inflation.

The changing international situation regarding trade and defence.

Housing.

Education.

Energy.

Practical solutions to the issues in remote Aboriginal communities.

Sustainability of Australia's economic base.

Skills and training especially in the trades.

The broad attack on science and the rise of religion-like thought processes.

And so on. Not intended to be a comprehensive list but point is there's a long list of things needing attention, government could and should put in serious effort throughout 2024 and get something done. Do that and I expect they'll be forgiven, by both sides, and re-elected.

Fail to do that, fail to get some visible action on key issues especially inflation and housing, and the clock's ticking - Labor will be in power only until the Liberals find themselves a suitable leader which at some point they will. :2twocents
 
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wayneL said:
Leftist tw@ts taking political advice from their 9yo daughters?

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This is a good example of the elitist tone deaf attitude of the more extreme corner the YES campaign which led to such a decisive NO turnout.

That is if it is a win for the NO's.

I'll ask Kim Beazley to check in with Rove after the count later today and tonight to advise him on the risks of a mispoken comment.

gg
 
Smurf1976 said:
Practical solutions to the issues in remote Aboriginal communities.
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So I'll put it out there that the real reason for the "Gap" is the refusal of some indigenous people to accept that the world has changed, that they are not living 50,000 years ago, and that unless they embrace the modern world and adapt to changing circumstances then they will continue to be left behind.

All the stuff about "dispossession" is just an excuse. As we have discussed before many others have been dispossessed and came here as refugees with nothing then worked hard and became successful. Maybe hard work is not in the aboriginal psyche, but in the modern world it's really the only way to get ahead without being a drain on the rest of society who will not put up with it for ever.
 
wayneL said:
Leftist tw@ts taking political advice from their 9yo daughters?

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Rove has made a big mistake by allowing The Project to be so clearly Left-Green biased. Instead of the tag line 'News delivered differently' he should label it 'News delivered by Leftards'. Plus, the comedians they have on are just not funny. The drag queen doing his skit about Jesus being nailed was pretty funny though. :rolleyes:
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
This is a good example of the elitist tone deaf attitude of the more extreme corner the YES campaign which led to such a decisive NO turnout.

That is if it is a win for the NO's.

I'll ask Kim Beazley to check in with Rove after the count later today and tonight to advise him on the risks of a mispoken comment.

gg
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be decent 'for once' ...
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no implied broader judgment / contempt there. Thanks pal.
 

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